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Lizzie Poppet

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41. No one here's defending this idiot.

Sun Sep 22, 2013, 01:00 PM

Sep 2013

Explaining why something like attacking the guy or even calling in a false police report about him isn't "defending" him.

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Police can't stop man armed with shotgun & side arms from walking by elementary schools [View all] fried eggs Sep 2013 OP

another gun loving loon samsingh Sep 2013 #1

let's get this straight: Police can stop & frisk anyone they want in NYC but OR police can't get ID TeamPooka Sep 2013 #133

Actually, NYPD can't just stop and frisk anymore, furious Sep 2013 #134

Yeah, tell that to the cop Politicalboi Sep 2013 #173

If you can't produce ID during a stop in NY, they will take you in. leveymg Sep 2013 #185

During a stop, yes furious Sep 2013 #192

If he fits the profile of a law-breaker, he can be stopped, as in NY. leveymg Sep 2013 #234

I'm very familiar with that case. furious Sep 2013 #238

I was observing the commonplace practice, not endorsing its application. The point is, leveymg Sep 2013 #248

Ahhh, ok, I understand now. furious Sep 2013 #249

Can you fix my parking tickets? leveymg Sep 2013 #253

LOL. furious Sep 2013 #254

a Crazy idea.... defacto7 Sep 2013 #386

Any things possible, furious Sep 2013 #388

Well, there is none. defacto7 Sep 2013 #389

And it's just as valid as the opposing view. furious Sep 2013 #390

That's not legal. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #283

That's the way it's been applied in NY. NY State has a "stop and identify law" which requires leveymg Sep 2013 #337

You repeated what I said. You can verbally identify yourself. No ID needed. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #372

Well, NY isn't supposed to stop & frisk anymore Recursion Sep 2013 #331

they could have arrested him for indecent exposure roguevalley Sep 2013 #250

No, they couldn't, furious Sep 2013 #251

I guess i should have flagged that as a joke. Tiny penis waving joke? roguevalley Sep 2013 #313

I guess I should have seen that. furious Sep 2013 #317

no problem, darling. :D:D:D roguevalley Sep 2013 #325

I think they could get him for indecent exposure. madinmaryland Sep 2013 #2

I know this is probably a joke, furious Sep 2013 #8

See, to me, walking around with a weapon showing is the same as walking around with madinmaryland Sep 2013 #228

I agree it's a stupid fucking thing to do, furious Sep 2013 #231

I just posted the same thing and got slagged. :D roguevalley Sep 2013 #314

Dumb ass. nt rrneck Sep 2013 #3

These kind of idiots do put a strain on our limited resources, furious Sep 2013 #4

What a complete jackass - he's making a statement, all right... (nt) petronius Sep 2013 #5

Oregon is very paradoxical. Loudly Sep 2013 #6

Freedom of choice is the constant... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #58

Except the choice not to see weapons displayed as adornments, apparently. Loudly Sep 2013 #59

I can think of lots of things I'd prefer not to see... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #74

If the penis is deliberately protruding from the pants, what do we say to the penis owner? Loudly Sep 2013 #87

The law needs to be changed, I agree with that, furious Sep 2013 #90

Yes, it is for the People to mock and ridicule him to his face. Loudly Sep 2013 #96

That's possibly the best course to take, furious Sep 2013 #98

Which is why I could never be a cop. skydive forever Sep 2013 #160

Public nudity is legal in Oregon whopis01 Sep 2013 #394

Sounds like Colorado in some respects, no? YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #230

Like many states, Oregon is divided by the most populous counties defacto7 Sep 2013 #387

IIRC, some gun-controllers in DU prefer open-carry to concealed-carry. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #467

Just post his face on all local media and you'll likely identify him pretty soon. FarCenter Sep 2013 #7

What would that do? HappyMe Sep 2013 #12

With a name you can do a background check. Wants and warrants, interview neighbors and managers. FarCenter Sep 2013 #14

I don't think all of that HappyMe Sep 2013 #23

I think the police should do the investigation; they should also provide an escort to his home/car FarCenter Sep 2013 #43

so what other legal Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #46

I support the police, and they should investigate someone who is behaving abnormally with a weapon. FarCenter Sep 2013 #52

Agreed about the guy being an idiot but rl6214 Sep 2013 #95

The police investigate lots of other legal activities, like Occupy & photographers & MLK Jr etc. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #115

He technically didn't break the law. HappyMe Sep 2013 #50

I'm not suggesting that the police arrest him. FarCenter Sep 2013 #55

Well, what happened to the big investigation you were calling for? HappyMe Sep 2013 #62

You can do a background check on someone without arresting them. FarCenter Sep 2013 #67

In the meantime, while they are dillydallying HappyMe Sep 2013 #69

how very NSA of you... ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2013 #104

Hey, that PRISM thing has to be good for something! FarCenter Sep 2013 #264

and while he is being "escorted" Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #65

Yes, those lost dog and cat-up-a-tree calls might not get answered for an hour or two. FarCenter Sep 2013 #71

You don't know much about police procedures do you? furious Sep 2013 #60

OK, but can't you run his license plate to see whether the car is stolen? FarCenter Sep 2013 #79

Yeah, we can do that, but do you really think this idiot would be driving a stolen car? furious Sep 2013 #83

technically thats true blueknight Sep 2013 #196

Our department doesn't operate that way, furious Sep 2013 #201

It's not because of the way he looks treestar Sep 2013 #61

No shit. HappyMe Sep 2013 #64

Only by the police? Why? Red Mountain Sep 2013 #286

His face is out there in the TV station video in the OP link csziggy Sep 2013 #200

I was wondering why the journalists hadn't appeared FarCenter Sep 2013 #207

Show his face to the world. mainer Sep 2013 #307

This is in Oregon. MineralMan Sep 2013 #9

Like this: hunter Sep 2013 #53

Nope. Just walk along behind him. MineralMan Sep 2013 #81

We enjoy drama in our family. hunter Sep 2013 #91

Thought about that, but this guy is clearly not all there and definitely has an authority libdem4life Sep 2013 #136

Maybe they could, but they won't. MineralMan Sep 2013 #138

Could be, but paranoids don't react like normal people, and they hear voices that might sound like libdem4life Sep 2013 #148

Perhaps. I don't think so. MineralMan Sep 2013 #152

Thinking you haven't been around Paranoid Schizophrenics or the like. Unfortunately, I have. libdem4life Sep 2013 #168

I've been around all sorts of people. MineralMan Sep 2013 #170

No I don't, just know that there is something mental going on there...clearly...maybe medications? libdem4life Sep 2013 #182

Really, this moron is probably not actually mentally ill, MineralMan Sep 2013 #202

He is in a public place so he has no expectation of privacy. So, in addition to kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #191

That seems like a good way to handle it. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #193

agreed nt Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #195

I would also suggest that at the same time, furious Sep 2013 #204

Yup. Point/Counterpoint. MineralMan Sep 2013 #205

He'd probably respond by getting asshattish and making a threat, and then he COULD be arrested. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #217

Depends. If he's not a complete moron, he'd know that doing MineralMan Sep 2013 #219

That's a good way to get your pup blasted... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #391

That's kind of genius. Squinch Sep 2013 #453

I think you are correct. MattBaggins Sep 2013 #449

Thanks. Folks like this guy don't like MineralMan Sep 2013 #450

Inreresting tactic gun-control "activists" should consider... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #468

Police aren't going to waste resources on someone doing something that's legal. furious Sep 2013 #139

If I'm a parent at that school and my kid gets hurt ...that which supposedly makes it a libdem4life Sep 2013 #162

In this day and age of police departments budgets being cut, furious Sep 2013 #169

Not disagreeing, but with the press there now...priorities change. libdem4life Sep 2013 #176

Well, black guys did so at the state capitol bldg. In California some years back. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #469

what could be a higher priority than protecting school children? ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #206

"Police aren't going to waste resources on someone doing something that's legal..." Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #459

It amazes me how many DU members want to deny this guy his right to do it. Nt Logical Sep 2013 #141

Nah. I just want to follow him from behind as he MineralMan Sep 2013 #145

I 100% agree you do! And we should publish his face..... Logical Sep 2013 #151

People have the "right" to do lots of things that are MineralMan Sep 2013 #155

I would too. And tape him the whole time. nt Logical Sep 2013 #158

Well, I'd have my cell phone ready to video him at any time. MineralMan Sep 2013 #164

I agree! I would tape him just to annoy him. nt Logical Sep 2013 #165

I'm not clear what right we want to deny...If he's a mental institution escapee, say libdem4life Sep 2013 #211

Again, there's no protected right to disturb the peace. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #435

In the irony of ironies, he's too ignorant to realize Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #451

I'd take a day off work.... Red Mountain Sep 2013 #293

Another terrorist protesting his right to tyranny. n/t Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #10

Just as the gun nuts want it etherealtruth Sep 2013 #11

Why don't they find his vehicle CanonRay Sep 2013 #13

And if he sues for harassment? furious Sep 2013 #16

oh yea, this guy is made of money to hire an attorney. riiiiight. ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #209

Happens all the time, furious Sep 2013 #215

Yeah just like we know you are law enforcement HangOnKids Sep 2013 #225

if he had a job he'd be at work instead of playing with his gun ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #255

Google it. furious Sep 2013 #257

full ignore. I don't ever need to hear what you have to say about your gun. ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #262

Ok. furious Sep 2013 #265

How do you know that he doesn't work nights? furious Sep 2013 #258

Quite a few probably would, actually. NRA'd be all over that. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #232

He probably lives in the neighborhood. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #17

Yeah. HappyMe Sep 2013 #25

This rl6214 Sep 2013 #105

I'm with you. Gun-controllers have some good ideas as to courses of action... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #470

You said it rl6214 Sep 2013 #101

Lecturing us on what's progressive? I don't think so. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #107

So making a comment is now lecturing? rl6214 Sep 2013 #125

Your words speak volumes, unfortunately. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #178

Ok rl6214 Sep 2013 #221

This "movement" is astounding to me. Robb Sep 2013 #15

hit.nail.head Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #18

This "movement" didn't work so well furious Sep 2013 #19

The difference being the Black Panthers knew full well how "the man" was going to react Fumesucker Sep 2013 #180

That's a very real possibility. furious Sep 2013 #199

THis is going to get him shot by a concerned, paranoid parent. Pisces Sep 2013 #302

well then Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #310

Nah, just standing my ground. I felt threatened. Pisces Sep 2013 #328

Someone should call the cops next time he pulls this and say they are reporting an active shooter quinnox Sep 2013 #20

And whoever does that will get arrested for a false police report. furious Sep 2013 #22

it could be done anonymously, of course quinnox Sep 2013 #24

That's an asshole thing to do. HappyMe Sep 2013 #27

Person is telling people to commit a crime furious Sep 2013 #31

The guy is a class A jerk for doing that. HappyMe Sep 2013 #38

Here's another reason why it's a stupid idea. furious Sep 2013 #28

Yeah, everyone's got one of those laying around. rl6214 Sep 2013 #106

Well...every drug dealer, anyway. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #108

And I hope they go to jail for a long time Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #48

Gee, what could go wrong sarisataka Sep 2013 #72

perfect case for using stand your ground to eliminate a threat to kids nt msongs Sep 2013 #21

Nope. That would get you tossed in the slammer for murder. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #26

There are some really dumb suggestions being floated here. furious Sep 2013 #29

Well, looks like people are doing back flips to defend this nut fried eggs Sep 2013 #30

I don't think anybody's defending this guy. HappyMe Sep 2013 #32

The only ridiculous suggestion I see is that his rights trump fried eggs Sep 2013 #40

Nobody in this thread has said that HappyMe Sep 2013 #45

I've seen no defense of this idiot here. furious Sep 2013 #35

No one here's defending this idiot. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #41

name one Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #42

His point is to get people like us to baselessly diagnose him as mentally ill Recursion Sep 2013 #380

It was in Hillboro. In Washington County Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #51

Thanks! Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #57

Speaking as a gun owner with a current CCW... Xithras Sep 2013 #159

I'm both of those things, too. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #181

I'm not stupid Xithras Sep 2013 #336

Of course it's only "murder" for white victims Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #443

Well I guess you get points for honesty, sarisataka Sep 2013 #76

If it's so "perfect," you will try that? Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #471

"Stop and frisk?" KansDem Sep 2013 #33

We. Can't. Legally. Do. That. furious Sep 2013 #36

Yeah, NYPD can stop and frisk random brown skinned people for no reason csziggy Sep 2013 #93

He can refuse to show ID because he's not breaking any law. furious Sep 2013 #100

Could they ask to see his carry permit? JoeyT Sep 2013 #127

If they're required to have a carry permit, furious Sep 2013 #128

I know its a cliche but damn, those poor kids! riderinthestorm Sep 2013 #34

That he is. furious Sep 2013 #37

My mom would just take guns and not give them back. hunter Sep 2013 #39

So now you are justifying theft? n/t Clown is Down Sep 2013 #140

Yeah. I'll take my chances. Take the guns and turn them into something useful hunter Sep 2013 #233

So how are we supposed to recognize a "good guy with a gun"? whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #44

Ok rl6214 Sep 2013 #117

They are all "good guys with guns" etherealtruth Sep 2013 #121

thanks gun nuts/NRA lobby for making a school day terrifying for all Americans! Sunlei Sep 2013 #47

That sums it up n/t etherealtruth Sep 2013 #54

I am sure we would all feel better if we could deny someone their rights The Straight Story Sep 2013 #49

Interesting whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #70

The person is not breaking any laws. What else frightens people that we would like to ban? The Straight Story Sep 2013 #78

Like I said in an earlier post whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #86

He wasn't on school grounds, furious Sep 2013 #97

Too close for comfort IMO n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #99

how close is too close now Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #102

Way too close for comfort, furious Sep 2013 #103

You're minimizing this guy's actions. Paladin Sep 2013 #112

I get people being concerned over such things, however The Straight Story Sep 2013 #118

Home schooling? No wonder you're OK with this guy's actions. Paladin Sep 2013 #175

How do you know what adults "don't belong" around a school? Fumesucker Sep 2013 #188

Oh easy The Straight Story Sep 2013 #197

I guess we have to pass laws because common sense can't be used by gun nuts. No guns within Pisces Sep 2013 #306

Go ahead, nothing stopping you Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #311

If you're not able to see what's wrong with this man's actions, you're not being honest. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #119

Because the law says he can. furious Sep 2013 #129

At what point are personal actions restricted when they cause a panic ... never? etherealtruth Sep 2013 #229

I can guarantee that if the police thought they could stop this idiot from parading around furious Sep 2013 #235

I actually am not blaming the police etherealtruth Sep 2013 #237

So who are you talking about Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #239

Disturbing the peace is not a legal right. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #433

There is a time and a place to be walking around with a shotgun Glassunion Sep 2013 #56

This asshole is going to get people killed. IdaBriggs Sep 2013 #63

really.... a piece of shit human being that lacks empathy to lost children to such an extent that seabeyond Sep 2013 #66

Exactly. HappyMe Sep 2013 #73

going after the children, you are right, literally more harm to guns right than seabeyond Sep 2013 #77

The people in this area should keep calling the police Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #68

Excellent ideas etherealtruth Sep 2013 #80

Excellent idea rl6214 Sep 2013 #120

Yes... Far better to let a loon with a loaded gun hang around a school Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #167

Call us enough times about the same thing, same person furious Sep 2013 #184

Well... That is not how I would do it... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #210

And expect to get a call back for more information. furious Sep 2013 #216

You do know they can and do trace those calls? rl6214 Sep 2013 #226

They can trace my phone till the cows come home Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #246

Ok 007 rl6214 Sep 2013 #354

You gonna be the one making that call to go to jail? rl6214 Sep 2013 #223

pffft... go to jail... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #247

the moron strutting around the periphery of school properties with a gun etherealtruth Sep 2013 #198

This nutjob's face is in the video in the OP link csziggy Sep 2013 #208

Yeah... I'd also be putting in regular complaints with the school board Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #212

The school board has no authority over the guy. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #218

I wonder if the police would be responding the same way ... surrealAmerican Sep 2013 #75

+1000. nt raccoon Sep 2013 #282

Maybe someone will report that he criticized the XL Pipeline. Scuba Sep 2013 #82

So forcing a lockdown and preventing kids from having recess is okay? proud2BlibKansan Sep 2013 #84

I liken it to shouting "fire" in a crowd etherealtruth Sep 2013 #89

He would fall for this: sarisataka Sep 2013 #85

It would be a risk, but I think there should be a crowd there lining sidewalk and heckling him. Lars39 Sep 2013 #88

Sadly, it would be a risk etherealtruth Sep 2013 #122

No one knows his name Catherine Vincent Sep 2013 #92

Best guess is all of you have this WRONG.... ileus Sep 2013 #94

It could be a false flag operation. gulliver Sep 2013 #147

No True Scotsman. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #434

Maybe it's all he can afford? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #456

Take a vote people... Lancero Sep 2013 #109

No, in cases like this I advocate legislative intelligence etherealtruth Sep 2013 #111

Thats... Lancero Sep 2013 #114

NO!!!!!!!!! furious Sep 2013 #113

Absolutely not. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #116

Nope rl6214 Sep 2013 #123

It's lame and stale to point out, but only white people get to pull this off. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #110

+1000. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #150

Moron. nt hack89 Sep 2013 #124

I bet it the guy was Black, there would be a different police response. RC Sep 2013 #126

EXACTLY!! Or.. if he was an A-Rab. <-- There'd be a Swat Team to take him out w/in 10 minutes. nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #166

Possible stalking equals probable cause for a search and ID check officers. TeamPooka Sep 2013 #130

Stalking who? furious Sep 2013 #137

Are you saying you don't run people's info when you get ... Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2013 #142

a potential victim or victims at the school since they called. If there were any creepy guy hanging TeamPooka Sep 2013 #143

If he were hanging out, furious Sep 2013 #154

now if that guy was a different color....... madrchsod Sep 2013 #131

The guy is probably a kiddie diddling pedophile. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2013 #132

He's not actually hanging around the schools, furious Sep 2013 #146

Once is a walk-by. But five times? No. They need to check his records. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2013 #149

They can't legally check his record as he's done nothing illegal, furious Sep 2013 #157

If he were black, he'd have been shot dead for resisting arrest Orrex Sep 2013 #135

You are absolutely correct. He would have been shot and questions asked later. Black man rights Pisces Sep 2013 #308

And some usual suspects here would say with a straight face that he had it coming... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #457

That must have been scary and intimidating to the kids and teachers. alfredo Sep 2013 #144

The guy is an idiot, but he sure has the right to do it if you wants to. nt Logical Sep 2013 #153

Just as I'd have the right to follow along behind him on the same street. MineralMan Sep 2013 #161

There are obscenity and threat exceptions to the 1st Amendment, right? gulliver Sep 2013 #156

How is this not a violation of the revised Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990? sl8 Sep 2013 #163

If you read the law, there are a number of exemptions ..... oldhippie Sep 2013 #401

But they have to protect the man's rights, too. Politicalboi Sep 2013 #171

So now I can not Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #187

?? Nothing can be done until he walks into the school and slaughters all the little kids ?? Hekate Sep 2013 #172

The law can be changed. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #189

But but but malaise Sep 2013 #174

There were lots of guns at the NRA meeting. SCUBANOW Sep 2013 #342

If enough people in the neighborhood call and complain.... AlbertCat Sep 2013 #177

No, because this idiot isn't doing anything illegal. furious Sep 2013 #220

ALWAYS CALL 911 WHEN YOU SEE SOME JACKASS PARADING AROUND WITH A GUN IN PUBLIC! rdharma Sep 2013 #179

Because wasting cops' time is such a great idea! Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #183

They dont care Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #190

How so?? I would consider the person to be a drug-crazed lunatic carrying a gun, and that is what I madinmaryland Sep 2013 #252

uh...Zimmerman called 911 just because someone didn't "belong" in his neighborhood... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #448

Agreed etherealtruth Sep 2013 #203

Yes, it would be considered a nuisance call after so many times. furious Sep 2013 #222

Who's we? rdharma Sep 2013 #270

The police. furious Sep 2013 #271

Oh, the police have discretion not to respond when dispatched? rdharma Sep 2013 #274

Depends if the dispatcher sends the call on. furious Sep 2013 #276

You know very little about law enforcement. rdharma Sep 2013 #281

Oh, ok, I know very little about law enforcement. furious Sep 2013 #291

Glad you admit it. rdharma Sep 2013 #297

It would be very low priority Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #301

His intention was to intimidate. rdharma Sep 2013 #318

He's no doubt an asshole, furious Sep 2013 #303

What's the definition of "menacing" in your "many moons of experience"? rdharma Sep 2013 #319

You need to look up the statute of the state this idiot did this in, furious Sep 2013 #322

Already looked it up for OR rdharma Sep 2013 #339

Very good. furious Sep 2013 #340

How can the student award the teacher a grade? rdharma Sep 2013 #344

Student? furious Sep 2013 #345

A very poor student at that! rdharma Sep 2013 #348

Ok. furious Sep 2013 #350

I've had the same poster tell me I knew little .... oldhippie Sep 2013 #402

This message was self-deleted by its author furious Sep 2013 #405

He's a cop so yeah, he knows very little about law enforcement rl6214 Sep 2013 #356

Yup! And I 'm Elvis Presley! rdharma Sep 2013 #375

How's death treating you Elvis? furious Sep 2013 #377

As you can see I'm not dead, rdharma Sep 2013 #392

Funny thing is, I can't see you. furious Sep 2013 #398

I know it's OK n/t rdharma Sep 2013 #399

You believed I was serious? furious Sep 2013 #400

Dramatic powers of prophecy we often pretend to posses... LanternWaste Sep 2013 #403

Yes! Call 'em "Spidey senses" rdharma Sep 2013 #418

Ok keyboard commando, if your mom lets you rl6214 Sep 2013 #408

furious just got banned ....AGAIN HangOnKids Sep 2013 #409

Again? rl6214 Sep 2013 #415

That's What Skinner Said HangOnKids Sep 2013 #416

I don't see why the great desire to continuously try to sneak in rl6214 Sep 2013 #417

Yup! I'm sure you don't.......... rdharma Sep 2013 #420

Meaning what? rl6214 Sep 2013 #421

Ask furious if his mom lets him. rdharma Sep 2013 #419

Do you still think "furious" is a cop? rdharma Sep 2013 #422

Nothing to prove otherwise rl6214 Sep 2013 #465

I'll bet he thanks you for your support! nt rdharma Sep 2013 #466

In light of the school shootings in recent history etherealtruth Sep 2013 #273

That's what these open carry idiots want, furious Sep 2013 #278

I agree the overall answer is legislative etherealtruth Sep 2013 #288

So in other words meanit Sep 2013 #292

Police budgets are being cut every day, furious Sep 2013 #294

The NRA would love to jump on something like this meanit Sep 2013 #298

Not the NRA per se, furious Sep 2013 #309

Perhaps the NRA does not influence directly, meanit Sep 2013 #321

disturbing the PEACE. pansypoo53219 Sep 2013 #186

How Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #194

Not in the legal sense. furious Sep 2013 #224

Part of me really wants these asshole's guns taken away now. Initech Sep 2013 #213

Why would a gun rights advocate Shankapotomus Sep 2013 #214

It doesn't help his cause at all. furious Sep 2013 #227

It pains me to say it... Clown is Down Sep 2013 #243

I guess anythings possible, furious Sep 2013 #245

There are more than many instances of pro-gun idiots doing this very thing already LanternWaste Sep 2013 #404

Keep calling the police to respond to these nut cases until they too push for laws on point Sep 2013 #236

They just will not respond Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #240

Maybe meanit Sep 2013 #285

No, it would be murder Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #287

Come walk around my neighborhood school with your guns, tough guy. meanit Sep 2013 #295

I do not do Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #305

Actually he IS BRANDISHING!! There is no way to know it is unloaded or he is about to massacre on point Sep 2013 #299

No, it's not, if it were a handgun, then yes, furious Sep 2013 #315

Yes, meanit Sep 2013 #316

No he is not Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #323

Ah yes, meanit Sep 2013 #326

Was anything shot up in that town? Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #327

What? meanit Sep 2013 #335

Since you tied it to the Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #338

Well, meanit Sep 2013 #346

Of course you would be concerned if someone was doing that to you. meanit Sep 2013 #341

Thanks for telling me how to think Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #343

You dodged the question I asked. Your still throwing out diversions meanit Sep 2013 #347

"There may not be a law against what this guy is doing, but he has no right to do it? furious Sep 2013 #353

Morally. meanit Sep 2013 #357

Morally? furious Sep 2013 #360

Well yes, morally. meanit Sep 2013 #366

I think we understand each other. furious Sep 2013 #368

On second thought meanit Sep 2013 #300

the police don't make the laws nor do they push for them TorchTheWitch Sep 2013 #284

Sex offenders can't live near schools, but bozos like this one can terrorize them. Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #241

that needs to be changed gopiscrap Sep 2013 #242

Humans...this is the man your parents warned you about...he's f***in' nuts... Tikki Sep 2013 #244

Schools in CA are gun free zones up to 1000 ft. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #256

They tried that in the state I live in and out state supreme court threw it out on grounds furious Sep 2013 #261

TRAP laws Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #330

If you read the link I posted, you'll see that the law is written to avoid stupid shit like that. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #378

I did read it, and that's why our State Supreme Court nullified the law. furious Sep 2013 #379

Private citizens need to confront these morons HockeyMom Sep 2013 #259

First thing, he wasn't on school property, furious Sep 2013 #263

Don't confuse her with facts rl6214 Sep 2013 #358

So, what laws was he Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #272

Are you saying 'regular" folk have no reason to confront aberrant behavior? etherealtruth Sep 2013 #275

The guy is an idiot Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #362

Nothing you can do, really. He doesn't appear dangerous LittleBlue Sep 2013 #260

If there were truly responsible gun owners, they would encourage him to stop. But. . . . . Hoyt Sep 2013 #266

Screw that. furious Sep 2013 #267

I'd like to see a few reasonable gun toters before I die. Hoyt Sep 2013 #268

They're out there, they just don't flaunt it by doing stupid things like furious Sep 2013 #269

Why would they bother to? The Straight Story Sep 2013 #277

walking around a school with exposed guns is just "exercising your rights" to you? CreekDog Sep 2013 #289

bigotry has NOTHING to do with judging someone for their BEHAVIOR, for fucks sake. bettyellen Sep 2013 #423

Well, being a muslim, jew, etc are all behaviors The Straight Story Sep 2013 #424

No, those aren't behaviors CreekDog Sep 2013 #452

So people don't choose their religion? Hunh The Straight Story Sep 2013 #460

Let's explain what you're doing here (since the usual reason "supporting liberal politics" isn't it) CreekDog Sep 2013 #463

Simply comparing principles The Straight Story Sep 2013 #464

Like you, responsible gun owner? rl6214 Sep 2013 #359

I know more tha a few here Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #364

sure someone has praised him, one regular poster, though not a liberal one CreekDog Sep 2013 #455

Since when does 'he hasn't broken any laws' stopped the cops? Rex Sep 2013 #279

+10000 Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #458

Illegal and actionable to sell drugs within certain number of feet of a school. benld74 Sep 2013 #280

Another responsible gun owner, educating the American public about what gun Squinch Sep 2013 #290

Well said meanit Sep 2013 #349

I wonder if he was black if these rules would still apply. I am sure he would be dead and no Pisces Sep 2013 #296

How do you determine he's a legal gun owner if you can't ask for ID? mainer Sep 2013 #304

But, but meanit Sep 2013 #324

I agree with you on that Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #329

Ever hear of probable cause? hack89 Sep 2013 #334

Cops need PC before they can stop you then ask for registration JonLP24 Sep 2013 #413

Gun Huggers employing the tactics of the Westborough Baptist Church! rdharma Sep 2013 #312

Does anyone know his name? Post it with photo and caption "small penis." mainer Sep 2013 #320

Wow did it really take 320 posts for this? rl6214 Sep 2013 #361

Especially if you want to be taken seriously... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #396

and there's nothing like ridicule to point out idiocy mainer Sep 2013 #406

I heard a million times last month that trading liberty for security is a bad idea Recursion Sep 2013 #332

only when it is convenient Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #333

Liberty? meanit Sep 2013 #351

So, if you have nothing to hide, you won't mind giving up that right? Recursion Sep 2013 #352

What? meanit Sep 2013 #363

As long as he stays out of restricted places, there's nothing the police can legally do. furious Sep 2013 #365

"common decency" Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #367

Carrying a single shot shotgun, while extremely stupid, furious Sep 2013 #355

A shotgun meanit Sep 2013 #369

I thought I might have missed it, furious Sep 2013 #370

Why is the LEO above so heavily armed? pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #371

Nope, he's a cop and I have no idea if he was involved in the policing of the Occupy Movement. furious Sep 2013 #373

It's good to hear you're against it. pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #382

I humbly thank you. furious Sep 2013 #383

that is awesome pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #385

Nor could they stop a group of Concerned Citizens DirkGently Sep 2013 #374

Ahhh, at last, furious Sep 2013 #376

Bullseye. Paladin Sep 2013 #395

Another idiotic white suburbanite pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #381

How can anyone defend this assholyness? cui bono Sep 2013 #384

Happens more often than you think IronLionZion Sep 2013 #393

With the small exception that his rights ARE FIRMLY IN PLACE SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #410

In his mind, he is protesting actual injustice IronLionZion Sep 2013 #411

Don't they have pills for that or something? SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #414

he's merely an idiot who wants to be stopped so he may then complain about his right being violated. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #397

But pot smokers go straight to jail. Phlem Sep 2013 #407

Thank drug warrior Eric Holder warrant46 Sep 2013 #426

Holder and the Obama Administration just gave CO and WA its blessing to legalize cannabis. tridim Sep 2013 #431

Your rude reply is noted warrant46 Sep 2013 #437

No they don't. nt tridim Sep 2013 #430

I think the best thing to do is ignore him JonLP24 Sep 2013 #412

I'm not willing to ignore this bizarre and potentially dangerous .... rdharma Sep 2013 #425

I just think JonLP24 Sep 2013 #436

Follow him around, spread his name, and ridicule him mainer Sep 2013 #439

If I lived in that community, at the very least I'd want to know Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #454

Of course not. But if the school calls the cops to haul away a first-grader who made a gun Nay Sep 2013 #427

Right. Trayvon had skittles and tea - suspicious. Man carries a rifel near school - Okey Dokey? Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #428

Maybe THE NRA IS RIGHT - we should all get guns and THEN we are OBVIOUSLY NOT GUILTY!! Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #429

If I were a parent (at that school), I'd be mad enough to find out his identity. LeftinOH Sep 2013 #432

"Matt of Hillsboro" could be the guy mainer Sep 2013 #438

Personal safety and exercise of rights have nothing to do with it. Paladin Sep 2013 #441

good for him. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #440

He just gets the leeway and BOD from cops that people of color usually don't... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #444

if you refuse while carrying a gun or just refuse without carrying a gun? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #445

I don't carry Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #446

Der Waffeficken nach dem Strohhalm greifen Taverner Sep 2013 #462

If you really feel you need a gun as protection, for god's sake get a CCW mainer Sep 2013 #442

Making the world safer for gunmen... marions ghost Sep 2013 #447

Waiting for the Waffeficken to chime in and say this perfectly ok Taverner Sep 2013 #461