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248. I was observing the commonplace practice, not endorsing its application. The point is,

Sun Sep 22, 2013, 06:06 PM

Sep 2013

it's curious in this case that police, with all their discretion in determining reasonable suspicion and applying dubious statutes such as loitering, didn't apply it that way in this case. I agree, the best way to deal with this is to rescind open carry. But, then, there's the NRA . . .

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Police can't stop man armed with shotgun & side arms from walking by elementary schools [View all] fried eggs Sep 2013 OP

another gun loving loon samsingh Sep 2013 #1

let's get this straight: Police can stop & frisk anyone they want in NYC but OR police can't get ID TeamPooka Sep 2013 #133

Actually, NYPD can't just stop and frisk anymore, furious Sep 2013 #134

Yeah, tell that to the cop Politicalboi Sep 2013 #173

If you can't produce ID during a stop in NY, they will take you in. leveymg Sep 2013 #185

During a stop, yes furious Sep 2013 #192

If he fits the profile of a law-breaker, he can be stopped, as in NY. leveymg Sep 2013 #234

I'm very familiar with that case. furious Sep 2013 #238

I was observing the commonplace practice, not endorsing its application. The point is, leveymg Sep 2013 #248

Ahhh, ok, I understand now. furious Sep 2013 #249

Can you fix my parking tickets? leveymg Sep 2013 #253

LOL. furious Sep 2013 #254

a Crazy idea.... defacto7 Sep 2013 #386

Any things possible, furious Sep 2013 #388

Well, there is none. defacto7 Sep 2013 #389

And it's just as valid as the opposing view. furious Sep 2013 #390

That's not legal. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #283

That's the way it's been applied in NY. NY State has a "stop and identify law" which requires leveymg Sep 2013 #337

You repeated what I said. You can verbally identify yourself. No ID needed. NutmegYankee Sep 2013 #372

Well, NY isn't supposed to stop & frisk anymore Recursion Sep 2013 #331

they could have arrested him for indecent exposure roguevalley Sep 2013 #250

No, they couldn't, furious Sep 2013 #251

I guess i should have flagged that as a joke. Tiny penis waving joke? roguevalley Sep 2013 #313

I guess I should have seen that. furious Sep 2013 #317

no problem, darling. :D:D:D roguevalley Sep 2013 #325

I think they could get him for indecent exposure. madinmaryland Sep 2013 #2

I know this is probably a joke, furious Sep 2013 #8

See, to me, walking around with a weapon showing is the same as walking around with madinmaryland Sep 2013 #228

I agree it's a stupid fucking thing to do, furious Sep 2013 #231

I just posted the same thing and got slagged. :D roguevalley Sep 2013 #314

Dumb ass. nt rrneck Sep 2013 #3

These kind of idiots do put a strain on our limited resources, furious Sep 2013 #4

What a complete jackass - he's making a statement, all right... (nt) petronius Sep 2013 #5

Oregon is very paradoxical. Loudly Sep 2013 #6

Freedom of choice is the constant... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #58

Except the choice not to see weapons displayed as adornments, apparently. Loudly Sep 2013 #59

I can think of lots of things I'd prefer not to see... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #74

If the penis is deliberately protruding from the pants, what do we say to the penis owner? Loudly Sep 2013 #87

The law needs to be changed, I agree with that, furious Sep 2013 #90

Yes, it is for the People to mock and ridicule him to his face. Loudly Sep 2013 #96

That's possibly the best course to take, furious Sep 2013 #98

Which is why I could never be a cop. skydive forever Sep 2013 #160

Public nudity is legal in Oregon whopis01 Sep 2013 #394

Sounds like Colorado in some respects, no? YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #230

Like many states, Oregon is divided by the most populous counties defacto7 Sep 2013 #387

IIRC, some gun-controllers in DU prefer open-carry to concealed-carry. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #467

Just post his face on all local media and you'll likely identify him pretty soon. FarCenter Sep 2013 #7

What would that do? HappyMe Sep 2013 #12

With a name you can do a background check. Wants and warrants, interview neighbors and managers. FarCenter Sep 2013 #14

I don't think all of that HappyMe Sep 2013 #23

I think the police should do the investigation; they should also provide an escort to his home/car FarCenter Sep 2013 #43

so what other legal Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #46

I support the police, and they should investigate someone who is behaving abnormally with a weapon. FarCenter Sep 2013 #52

Agreed about the guy being an idiot but rl6214 Sep 2013 #95

The police investigate lots of other legal activities, like Occupy & photographers & MLK Jr etc. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #115

He technically didn't break the law. HappyMe Sep 2013 #50

I'm not suggesting that the police arrest him. FarCenter Sep 2013 #55

Well, what happened to the big investigation you were calling for? HappyMe Sep 2013 #62

You can do a background check on someone without arresting them. FarCenter Sep 2013 #67

In the meantime, while they are dillydallying HappyMe Sep 2013 #69

how very NSA of you... ProdigalJunkMail Sep 2013 #104

Hey, that PRISM thing has to be good for something! FarCenter Sep 2013 #264

and while he is being "escorted" Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #65

Yes, those lost dog and cat-up-a-tree calls might not get answered for an hour or two. FarCenter Sep 2013 #71

You don't know much about police procedures do you? furious Sep 2013 #60

OK, but can't you run his license plate to see whether the car is stolen? FarCenter Sep 2013 #79

Yeah, we can do that, but do you really think this idiot would be driving a stolen car? furious Sep 2013 #83

technically thats true blueknight Sep 2013 #196

Our department doesn't operate that way, furious Sep 2013 #201

It's not because of the way he looks treestar Sep 2013 #61

No shit. HappyMe Sep 2013 #64

Only by the police? Why? Red Mountain Sep 2013 #286

His face is out there in the TV station video in the OP link csziggy Sep 2013 #200

I was wondering why the journalists hadn't appeared FarCenter Sep 2013 #207

Show his face to the world. mainer Sep 2013 #307

This is in Oregon. MineralMan Sep 2013 #9

Like this: hunter Sep 2013 #53

Nope. Just walk along behind him. MineralMan Sep 2013 #81

We enjoy drama in our family. hunter Sep 2013 #91

Thought about that, but this guy is clearly not all there and definitely has an authority libdem4life Sep 2013 #136

Maybe they could, but they won't. MineralMan Sep 2013 #138

Could be, but paranoids don't react like normal people, and they hear voices that might sound like libdem4life Sep 2013 #148

Perhaps. I don't think so. MineralMan Sep 2013 #152

Thinking you haven't been around Paranoid Schizophrenics or the like. Unfortunately, I have. libdem4life Sep 2013 #168

I've been around all sorts of people. MineralMan Sep 2013 #170

No I don't, just know that there is something mental going on there...clearly...maybe medications? libdem4life Sep 2013 #182

Really, this moron is probably not actually mentally ill, MineralMan Sep 2013 #202

He is in a public place so he has no expectation of privacy. So, in addition to kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #191

That seems like a good way to handle it. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #193

agreed nt Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #195

I would also suggest that at the same time, furious Sep 2013 #204

Yup. Point/Counterpoint. MineralMan Sep 2013 #205

He'd probably respond by getting asshattish and making a threat, and then he COULD be arrested. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #217

Depends. If he's not a complete moron, he'd know that doing MineralMan Sep 2013 #219

That's a good way to get your pup blasted... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #391

That's kind of genius. Squinch Sep 2013 #453

I think you are correct. MattBaggins Sep 2013 #449

Thanks. Folks like this guy don't like MineralMan Sep 2013 #450

Inreresting tactic gun-control "activists" should consider... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #468

Police aren't going to waste resources on someone doing something that's legal. furious Sep 2013 #139

If I'm a parent at that school and my kid gets hurt ...that which supposedly makes it a libdem4life Sep 2013 #162

In this day and age of police departments budgets being cut, furious Sep 2013 #169

Not disagreeing, but with the press there now...priorities change. libdem4life Sep 2013 #176

Well, black guys did so at the state capitol bldg. In California some years back. Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #469

what could be a higher priority than protecting school children? ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #206

"Police aren't going to waste resources on someone doing something that's legal..." Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #459

It amazes me how many DU members want to deny this guy his right to do it. Nt Logical Sep 2013 #141

Nah. I just want to follow him from behind as he MineralMan Sep 2013 #145

I 100% agree you do! And we should publish his face..... Logical Sep 2013 #151

People have the "right" to do lots of things that are MineralMan Sep 2013 #155

I would too. And tape him the whole time. nt Logical Sep 2013 #158

Well, I'd have my cell phone ready to video him at any time. MineralMan Sep 2013 #164

I agree! I would tape him just to annoy him. nt Logical Sep 2013 #165

I'm not clear what right we want to deny...If he's a mental institution escapee, say libdem4life Sep 2013 #211

Again, there's no protected right to disturb the peace. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #435

In the irony of ironies, he's too ignorant to realize Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #451

I'd take a day off work.... Red Mountain Sep 2013 #293

Another terrorist protesting his right to tyranny. n/t Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #10

Just as the gun nuts want it etherealtruth Sep 2013 #11

Why don't they find his vehicle CanonRay Sep 2013 #13

And if he sues for harassment? furious Sep 2013 #16

oh yea, this guy is made of money to hire an attorney. riiiiight. ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #209

Happens all the time, furious Sep 2013 #215

Yeah just like we know you are law enforcement HangOnKids Sep 2013 #225

if he had a job he'd be at work instead of playing with his gun ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #255

Google it. furious Sep 2013 #257

full ignore. I don't ever need to hear what you have to say about your gun. ZRT2209 Sep 2013 #262

Ok. furious Sep 2013 #265

How do you know that he doesn't work nights? furious Sep 2013 #258

Quite a few probably would, actually. NRA'd be all over that. (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #232

He probably lives in the neighborhood. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #17

Yeah. HappyMe Sep 2013 #25

This rl6214 Sep 2013 #105

I'm with you. Gun-controllers have some good ideas as to courses of action... Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #470

You said it rl6214 Sep 2013 #101

Lecturing us on what's progressive? I don't think so. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #107

So making a comment is now lecturing? rl6214 Sep 2013 #125

Your words speak volumes, unfortunately. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #178

Ok rl6214 Sep 2013 #221

This "movement" is astounding to me. Robb Sep 2013 #15

hit.nail.head Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #18

This "movement" didn't work so well furious Sep 2013 #19

The difference being the Black Panthers knew full well how "the man" was going to react Fumesucker Sep 2013 #180

That's a very real possibility. furious Sep 2013 #199

THis is going to get him shot by a concerned, paranoid parent. Pisces Sep 2013 #302

well then Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #310

Nah, just standing my ground. I felt threatened. Pisces Sep 2013 #328

Someone should call the cops next time he pulls this and say they are reporting an active shooter quinnox Sep 2013 #20

And whoever does that will get arrested for a false police report. furious Sep 2013 #22

it could be done anonymously, of course quinnox Sep 2013 #24

That's an asshole thing to do. HappyMe Sep 2013 #27

Person is telling people to commit a crime furious Sep 2013 #31

The guy is a class A jerk for doing that. HappyMe Sep 2013 #38

Here's another reason why it's a stupid idea. furious Sep 2013 #28

Yeah, everyone's got one of those laying around. rl6214 Sep 2013 #106

Well...every drug dealer, anyway. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #108

And I hope they go to jail for a long time Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #48

Gee, what could go wrong sarisataka Sep 2013 #72

perfect case for using stand your ground to eliminate a threat to kids nt msongs Sep 2013 #21

Nope. That would get you tossed in the slammer for murder. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #26

There are some really dumb suggestions being floated here. furious Sep 2013 #29

Well, looks like people are doing back flips to defend this nut fried eggs Sep 2013 #30

I don't think anybody's defending this guy. HappyMe Sep 2013 #32

The only ridiculous suggestion I see is that his rights trump fried eggs Sep 2013 #40

Nobody in this thread has said that HappyMe Sep 2013 #45

I've seen no defense of this idiot here. furious Sep 2013 #35

No one here's defending this idiot. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #41

name one Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #42

His point is to get people like us to baselessly diagnose him as mentally ill Recursion Sep 2013 #380

It was in Hillboro. In Washington County Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #51

Thanks! Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #57

Speaking as a gun owner with a current CCW... Xithras Sep 2013 #159

I'm both of those things, too. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #181

I'm not stupid Xithras Sep 2013 #336

Of course it's only "murder" for white victims Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #443

Well I guess you get points for honesty, sarisataka Sep 2013 #76

If it's so "perfect," you will try that? Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #471

"Stop and frisk?" KansDem Sep 2013 #33

We. Can't. Legally. Do. That. furious Sep 2013 #36

Yeah, NYPD can stop and frisk random brown skinned people for no reason csziggy Sep 2013 #93

He can refuse to show ID because he's not breaking any law. furious Sep 2013 #100

Could they ask to see his carry permit? JoeyT Sep 2013 #127

If they're required to have a carry permit, furious Sep 2013 #128

I know its a cliche but damn, those poor kids! riderinthestorm Sep 2013 #34

That he is. furious Sep 2013 #37

My mom would just take guns and not give them back. hunter Sep 2013 #39

So now you are justifying theft? n/t Clown is Down Sep 2013 #140

Yeah. I'll take my chances. Take the guns and turn them into something useful hunter Sep 2013 #233

So how are we supposed to recognize a "good guy with a gun"? whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #44

Ok rl6214 Sep 2013 #117

They are all "good guys with guns" etherealtruth Sep 2013 #121

thanks gun nuts/NRA lobby for making a school day terrifying for all Americans! Sunlei Sep 2013 #47

That sums it up n/t etherealtruth Sep 2013 #54

I am sure we would all feel better if we could deny someone their rights The Straight Story Sep 2013 #49

Interesting whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #70

The person is not breaking any laws. What else frightens people that we would like to ban? The Straight Story Sep 2013 #78

Like I said in an earlier post whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #86

He wasn't on school grounds, furious Sep 2013 #97

Too close for comfort IMO n/t whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #99

how close is too close now Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #102

Way too close for comfort, furious Sep 2013 #103

You're minimizing this guy's actions. Paladin Sep 2013 #112

I get people being concerned over such things, however The Straight Story Sep 2013 #118

Home schooling? No wonder you're OK with this guy's actions. Paladin Sep 2013 #175

How do you know what adults "don't belong" around a school? Fumesucker Sep 2013 #188

Oh easy The Straight Story Sep 2013 #197

I guess we have to pass laws because common sense can't be used by gun nuts. No guns within Pisces Sep 2013 #306

Go ahead, nothing stopping you Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #311

If you're not able to see what's wrong with this man's actions, you're not being honest. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #119

Because the law says he can. furious Sep 2013 #129

At what point are personal actions restricted when they cause a panic ... never? etherealtruth Sep 2013 #229

I can guarantee that if the police thought they could stop this idiot from parading around furious Sep 2013 #235

I actually am not blaming the police etherealtruth Sep 2013 #237

So who are you talking about Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #239

Disturbing the peace is not a legal right. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #433

There is a time and a place to be walking around with a shotgun Glassunion Sep 2013 #56

This asshole is going to get people killed. IdaBriggs Sep 2013 #63

really.... a piece of shit human being that lacks empathy to lost children to such an extent that seabeyond Sep 2013 #66

Exactly. HappyMe Sep 2013 #73

going after the children, you are right, literally more harm to guns right than seabeyond Sep 2013 #77

The people in this area should keep calling the police Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #68

Excellent ideas etherealtruth Sep 2013 #80

Excellent idea rl6214 Sep 2013 #120

Yes... Far better to let a loon with a loaded gun hang around a school Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #167

Call us enough times about the same thing, same person furious Sep 2013 #184

Well... That is not how I would do it... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #210

And expect to get a call back for more information. furious Sep 2013 #216

You do know they can and do trace those calls? rl6214 Sep 2013 #226

They can trace my phone till the cows come home Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #246

Ok 007 rl6214 Sep 2013 #354

You gonna be the one making that call to go to jail? rl6214 Sep 2013 #223

pffft... go to jail... Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #247

the moron strutting around the periphery of school properties with a gun etherealtruth Sep 2013 #198

This nutjob's face is in the video in the OP link csziggy Sep 2013 #208

Yeah... I'd also be putting in regular complaints with the school board Ohio Joe Sep 2013 #212

The school board has no authority over the guy. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #218

I wonder if the police would be responding the same way ... surrealAmerican Sep 2013 #75

+1000. nt raccoon Sep 2013 #282

Maybe someone will report that he criticized the XL Pipeline. Scuba Sep 2013 #82

So forcing a lockdown and preventing kids from having recess is okay? proud2BlibKansan Sep 2013 #84

I liken it to shouting "fire" in a crowd etherealtruth Sep 2013 #89

He would fall for this: sarisataka Sep 2013 #85

It would be a risk, but I think there should be a crowd there lining sidewalk and heckling him. Lars39 Sep 2013 #88

Sadly, it would be a risk etherealtruth Sep 2013 #122

No one knows his name Catherine Vincent Sep 2013 #92

Best guess is all of you have this WRONG.... ileus Sep 2013 #94

It could be a false flag operation. gulliver Sep 2013 #147

No True Scotsman. nt Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2013 #434

Maybe it's all he can afford? Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #456

Take a vote people... Lancero Sep 2013 #109

No, in cases like this I advocate legislative intelligence etherealtruth Sep 2013 #111

Thats... Lancero Sep 2013 #114

NO!!!!!!!!! furious Sep 2013 #113

Absolutely not. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #116

Nope rl6214 Sep 2013 #123

It's lame and stale to point out, but only white people get to pull this off. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #110

+1000. (nt) Paladin Sep 2013 #150

Moron. nt hack89 Sep 2013 #124

I bet it the guy was Black, there would be a different police response. RC Sep 2013 #126

EXACTLY!! Or.. if he was an A-Rab. <-- There'd be a Swat Team to take him out w/in 10 minutes. nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #166

Possible stalking equals probable cause for a search and ID check officers. TeamPooka Sep 2013 #130

Stalking who? furious Sep 2013 #137

Are you saying you don't run people's info when you get ... Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2013 #142

a potential victim or victims at the school since they called. If there were any creepy guy hanging TeamPooka Sep 2013 #143

If he were hanging out, furious Sep 2013 #154

now if that guy was a different color....... madrchsod Sep 2013 #131

The guy is probably a kiddie diddling pedophile. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2013 #132

He's not actually hanging around the schools, furious Sep 2013 #146

Once is a walk-by. But five times? No. They need to check his records. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2013 #149

They can't legally check his record as he's done nothing illegal, furious Sep 2013 #157

If he were black, he'd have been shot dead for resisting arrest Orrex Sep 2013 #135

You are absolutely correct. He would have been shot and questions asked later. Black man rights Pisces Sep 2013 #308

And some usual suspects here would say with a straight face that he had it coming... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #457

That must have been scary and intimidating to the kids and teachers. alfredo Sep 2013 #144

The guy is an idiot, but he sure has the right to do it if you wants to. nt Logical Sep 2013 #153

Just as I'd have the right to follow along behind him on the same street. MineralMan Sep 2013 #161

There are obscenity and threat exceptions to the 1st Amendment, right? gulliver Sep 2013 #156

How is this not a violation of the revised Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990? sl8 Sep 2013 #163

If you read the law, there are a number of exemptions ..... oldhippie Sep 2013 #401

But they have to protect the man's rights, too. Politicalboi Sep 2013 #171

So now I can not Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #187

?? Nothing can be done until he walks into the school and slaughters all the little kids ?? Hekate Sep 2013 #172

The law can be changed. Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #189

But but but malaise Sep 2013 #174

There were lots of guns at the NRA meeting. SCUBANOW Sep 2013 #342

If enough people in the neighborhood call and complain.... AlbertCat Sep 2013 #177

No, because this idiot isn't doing anything illegal. furious Sep 2013 #220

ALWAYS CALL 911 WHEN YOU SEE SOME JACKASS PARADING AROUND WITH A GUN IN PUBLIC! rdharma Sep 2013 #179

Because wasting cops' time is such a great idea! Lizzie Poppet Sep 2013 #183

They dont care Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #190

How so?? I would consider the person to be a drug-crazed lunatic carrying a gun, and that is what I madinmaryland Sep 2013 #252

uh...Zimmerman called 911 just because someone didn't "belong" in his neighborhood... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #448

Agreed etherealtruth Sep 2013 #203

Yes, it would be considered a nuisance call after so many times. furious Sep 2013 #222

Who's we? rdharma Sep 2013 #270

The police. furious Sep 2013 #271

Oh, the police have discretion not to respond when dispatched? rdharma Sep 2013 #274

Depends if the dispatcher sends the call on. furious Sep 2013 #276

You know very little about law enforcement. rdharma Sep 2013 #281

Oh, ok, I know very little about law enforcement. furious Sep 2013 #291

Glad you admit it. rdharma Sep 2013 #297

It would be very low priority Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #301

His intention was to intimidate. rdharma Sep 2013 #318

He's no doubt an asshole, furious Sep 2013 #303

What's the definition of "menacing" in your "many moons of experience"? rdharma Sep 2013 #319

You need to look up the statute of the state this idiot did this in, furious Sep 2013 #322

Already looked it up for OR rdharma Sep 2013 #339

Very good. furious Sep 2013 #340

How can the student award the teacher a grade? rdharma Sep 2013 #344

Student? furious Sep 2013 #345

A very poor student at that! rdharma Sep 2013 #348

Ok. furious Sep 2013 #350

I've had the same poster tell me I knew little .... oldhippie Sep 2013 #402

This message was self-deleted by its author furious Sep 2013 #405

He's a cop so yeah, he knows very little about law enforcement rl6214 Sep 2013 #356

Yup! And I 'm Elvis Presley! rdharma Sep 2013 #375

How's death treating you Elvis? furious Sep 2013 #377

As you can see I'm not dead, rdharma Sep 2013 #392

Funny thing is, I can't see you. furious Sep 2013 #398

I know it's OK n/t rdharma Sep 2013 #399

You believed I was serious? furious Sep 2013 #400

Dramatic powers of prophecy we often pretend to posses... LanternWaste Sep 2013 #403

Yes! Call 'em "Spidey senses" rdharma Sep 2013 #418

Ok keyboard commando, if your mom lets you rl6214 Sep 2013 #408

furious just got banned ....AGAIN HangOnKids Sep 2013 #409

Again? rl6214 Sep 2013 #415

That's What Skinner Said HangOnKids Sep 2013 #416

I don't see why the great desire to continuously try to sneak in rl6214 Sep 2013 #417

Yup! I'm sure you don't.......... rdharma Sep 2013 #420

Meaning what? rl6214 Sep 2013 #421

Ask furious if his mom lets him. rdharma Sep 2013 #419

Do you still think "furious" is a cop? rdharma Sep 2013 #422

Nothing to prove otherwise rl6214 Sep 2013 #465

I'll bet he thanks you for your support! nt rdharma Sep 2013 #466

In light of the school shootings in recent history etherealtruth Sep 2013 #273

That's what these open carry idiots want, furious Sep 2013 #278

I agree the overall answer is legislative etherealtruth Sep 2013 #288

So in other words meanit Sep 2013 #292

Police budgets are being cut every day, furious Sep 2013 #294

The NRA would love to jump on something like this meanit Sep 2013 #298

Not the NRA per se, furious Sep 2013 #309

Perhaps the NRA does not influence directly, meanit Sep 2013 #321

disturbing the PEACE. pansypoo53219 Sep 2013 #186

How Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #194

Not in the legal sense. furious Sep 2013 #224

Part of me really wants these asshole's guns taken away now. Initech Sep 2013 #213

Why would a gun rights advocate Shankapotomus Sep 2013 #214

It doesn't help his cause at all. furious Sep 2013 #227

It pains me to say it... Clown is Down Sep 2013 #243

I guess anythings possible, furious Sep 2013 #245

There are more than many instances of pro-gun idiots doing this very thing already LanternWaste Sep 2013 #404

Keep calling the police to respond to these nut cases until they too push for laws on point Sep 2013 #236

They just will not respond Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #240

Maybe meanit Sep 2013 #285

No, it would be murder Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #287

Come walk around my neighborhood school with your guns, tough guy. meanit Sep 2013 #295

I do not do Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #305

Actually he IS BRANDISHING!! There is no way to know it is unloaded or he is about to massacre on point Sep 2013 #299

No, it's not, if it were a handgun, then yes, furious Sep 2013 #315

Yes, meanit Sep 2013 #316

No he is not Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #323

Ah yes, meanit Sep 2013 #326

Was anything shot up in that town? Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #327

What? meanit Sep 2013 #335

Since you tied it to the Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #338

Well, meanit Sep 2013 #346

Of course you would be concerned if someone was doing that to you. meanit Sep 2013 #341

Thanks for telling me how to think Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #343

You dodged the question I asked. Your still throwing out diversions meanit Sep 2013 #347

"There may not be a law against what this guy is doing, but he has no right to do it? furious Sep 2013 #353

Morally. meanit Sep 2013 #357

Morally? furious Sep 2013 #360

Well yes, morally. meanit Sep 2013 #366

I think we understand each other. furious Sep 2013 #368

On second thought meanit Sep 2013 #300

the police don't make the laws nor do they push for them TorchTheWitch Sep 2013 #284

Sex offenders can't live near schools, but bozos like this one can terrorize them. Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #241

that needs to be changed gopiscrap Sep 2013 #242

Humans...this is the man your parents warned you about...he's f***in' nuts... Tikki Sep 2013 #244

Schools in CA are gun free zones up to 1000 ft. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #256

They tried that in the state I live in and out state supreme court threw it out on grounds furious Sep 2013 #261

TRAP laws Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #330

If you read the link I posted, you'll see that the law is written to avoid stupid shit like that. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #378

I did read it, and that's why our State Supreme Court nullified the law. furious Sep 2013 #379

Private citizens need to confront these morons HockeyMom Sep 2013 #259

First thing, he wasn't on school property, furious Sep 2013 #263

Don't confuse her with facts rl6214 Sep 2013 #358

So, what laws was he Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #272

Are you saying 'regular" folk have no reason to confront aberrant behavior? etherealtruth Sep 2013 #275

The guy is an idiot Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #362

Nothing you can do, really. He doesn't appear dangerous LittleBlue Sep 2013 #260

If there were truly responsible gun owners, they would encourage him to stop. But. . . . . Hoyt Sep 2013 #266

Screw that. furious Sep 2013 #267

I'd like to see a few reasonable gun toters before I die. Hoyt Sep 2013 #268

They're out there, they just don't flaunt it by doing stupid things like furious Sep 2013 #269

Why would they bother to? The Straight Story Sep 2013 #277

walking around a school with exposed guns is just "exercising your rights" to you? CreekDog Sep 2013 #289

bigotry has NOTHING to do with judging someone for their BEHAVIOR, for fucks sake. bettyellen Sep 2013 #423

Well, being a muslim, jew, etc are all behaviors The Straight Story Sep 2013 #424

No, those aren't behaviors CreekDog Sep 2013 #452

So people don't choose their religion? Hunh The Straight Story Sep 2013 #460

Let's explain what you're doing here (since the usual reason "supporting liberal politics" isn't it) CreekDog Sep 2013 #463

Simply comparing principles The Straight Story Sep 2013 #464

Like you, responsible gun owner? rl6214 Sep 2013 #359

I know more tha a few here Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #364

sure someone has praised him, one regular poster, though not a liberal one CreekDog Sep 2013 #455

Since when does 'he hasn't broken any laws' stopped the cops? Rex Sep 2013 #279

+10000 Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #458

Illegal and actionable to sell drugs within certain number of feet of a school. benld74 Sep 2013 #280

Another responsible gun owner, educating the American public about what gun Squinch Sep 2013 #290

Well said meanit Sep 2013 #349

I wonder if he was black if these rules would still apply. I am sure he would be dead and no Pisces Sep 2013 #296

How do you determine he's a legal gun owner if you can't ask for ID? mainer Sep 2013 #304

But, but meanit Sep 2013 #324

I agree with you on that Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #329

Ever hear of probable cause? hack89 Sep 2013 #334

Cops need PC before they can stop you then ask for registration JonLP24 Sep 2013 #413

Gun Huggers employing the tactics of the Westborough Baptist Church! rdharma Sep 2013 #312

Does anyone know his name? Post it with photo and caption "small penis." mainer Sep 2013 #320

Wow did it really take 320 posts for this? rl6214 Sep 2013 #361

Especially if you want to be taken seriously... Decaffeinated Sep 2013 #396

and there's nothing like ridicule to point out idiocy mainer Sep 2013 #406

I heard a million times last month that trading liberty for security is a bad idea Recursion Sep 2013 #332

only when it is convenient Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #333

Liberty? meanit Sep 2013 #351

So, if you have nothing to hide, you won't mind giving up that right? Recursion Sep 2013 #352

What? meanit Sep 2013 #363

As long as he stays out of restricted places, there's nothing the police can legally do. furious Sep 2013 #365

"common decency" Duckhunter935 Sep 2013 #367

Carrying a single shot shotgun, while extremely stupid, furious Sep 2013 #355

A shotgun meanit Sep 2013 #369

I thought I might have missed it, furious Sep 2013 #370

Why is the LEO above so heavily armed? pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #371

Nope, he's a cop and I have no idea if he was involved in the policing of the Occupy Movement. furious Sep 2013 #373

It's good to hear you're against it. pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #382

I humbly thank you. furious Sep 2013 #383

that is awesome pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #385

Nor could they stop a group of Concerned Citizens DirkGently Sep 2013 #374

Ahhh, at last, furious Sep 2013 #376

Bullseye. Paladin Sep 2013 #395

Another idiotic white suburbanite pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #381

How can anyone defend this assholyness? cui bono Sep 2013 #384

Happens more often than you think IronLionZion Sep 2013 #393

With the small exception that his rights ARE FIRMLY IN PLACE SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #410

In his mind, he is protesting actual injustice IronLionZion Sep 2013 #411

Don't they have pills for that or something? SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #414

he's merely an idiot who wants to be stopped so he may then complain about his right being violated. LanternWaste Sep 2013 #397

But pot smokers go straight to jail. Phlem Sep 2013 #407

Thank drug warrior Eric Holder warrant46 Sep 2013 #426

Holder and the Obama Administration just gave CO and WA its blessing to legalize cannabis. tridim Sep 2013 #431

Your rude reply is noted warrant46 Sep 2013 #437

No they don't. nt tridim Sep 2013 #430

I think the best thing to do is ignore him JonLP24 Sep 2013 #412

I'm not willing to ignore this bizarre and potentially dangerous .... rdharma Sep 2013 #425

I just think JonLP24 Sep 2013 #436

Follow him around, spread his name, and ridicule him mainer Sep 2013 #439

If I lived in that community, at the very least I'd want to know Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #454

Of course not. But if the school calls the cops to haul away a first-grader who made a gun Nay Sep 2013 #427

Right. Trayvon had skittles and tea - suspicious. Man carries a rifel near school - Okey Dokey? Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #428

Maybe THE NRA IS RIGHT - we should all get guns and THEN we are OBVIOUSLY NOT GUILTY!! Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #429

If I were a parent (at that school), I'd be mad enough to find out his identity. LeftinOH Sep 2013 #432

"Matt of Hillsboro" could be the guy mainer Sep 2013 #438

Personal safety and exercise of rights have nothing to do with it. Paladin Sep 2013 #441

good for him. GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #440

He just gets the leeway and BOD from cops that people of color usually don't... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #444

if you refuse while carrying a gun or just refuse without carrying a gun? GalaxyHunter Sep 2013 #445

I don't carry Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #446

Der Waffeficken nach dem Strohhalm greifen Taverner Sep 2013 #462

If you really feel you need a gun as protection, for god's sake get a CCW mainer Sep 2013 #442

Making the world safer for gunmen... marions ghost Sep 2013 #447

Waiting for the Waffeficken to chime in and say this perfectly ok Taverner Sep 2013 #461