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Lars39

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8. All that an a think tank, too!

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Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:25 AM

Sep 2013

Thank you for the OP, nashville_brook!

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Writing on DU is activism, actually [View all] nashville_brook Sep 2013 OP

The 'it's not activism' meme is on fire because the 'centrists' and 'conservadems' know that Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #1

... OneGrassRoot Sep 2013 #2

OneGrassRoot...your work is a great example of mobilizing nashville_brook Sep 2013 #5

"stop the rising yeast" -- beautifully said. and, OMG on the Stonewall to Obama letter! nashville_brook Sep 2013 #3

We had to change so many Democratic minds to make progress and those minds we changed Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #14

if we were in therapy we'd call it a cycle of abuse. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #67

a certain faction seemly has a vested interest in the status quo. KG Sep 2013 #4

+1 nashville_brook Sep 2013 #93

+10000 YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #112

You think that's why? Recursion Sep 2013 #17

Was I unclear? I don't think so. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #31

Unfortunately, no - they don't [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2013 #40

Yes. "a tussle afoot for the soul of the Party", indeed. Vanje Sep 2013 #21

The Tea Party Cryptoad Sep 2013 #32

those purged GOP stalwert Vanje Sep 2013 #34

that's actually a counter-example to your point. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #36

+1 daleanime Sep 2013 #42

Excellent post.............nt Enthusiast Sep 2013 #115

First � 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #105

Oh, baby! Enthusiast Sep 2013 #114

Considering that most conversations in this country aolwien Sep 2013 #6

that's a great point. i used to think that we needed to find a way to engage nashville_brook Sep 2013 #9

My sense is the lurker/poster ratio on DU and GD in particular is high Fumesucker Sep 2013 #7

i think there's also a lot of lurkers who aren't rank-and-file nashville_brook Sep 2013 #15

All that an a think tank, too! Lars39 Sep 2013 #8

I consider DU my training for activism. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #10

me too -- eggsactly. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #12

I've become much less judgmental since being on DU. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #18

I think it's an important part of activism. rrneck Sep 2013 #11

At its best, it's activism. But it's also everything from an echo chamber... randome Sep 2013 #13

if by echo chamber you mean 'toeing the party line'... nashville_brook Sep 2013 #19

"Defend & pleasure the party's leadership." DirkGently Sep 2013 #23

spit tea on computer screen. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #87

Get what you can from the 'echo chamber' Vanje Sep 2013 #50

I don't just write here - TBF Sep 2013 #16

+1 n/t LittleGirl Sep 2013 #22

Eh....no. This is a nice website for Democrats, but this isn't what I would call msanthrope Sep 2013 #20

i was actually doing both -- but that misses the point nashville_brook Sep 2013 #25

I am glad you are doing both. But I wouldn't ever think my posting on DU is a satisfactory msanthrope Sep 2013 #49

Being 'on the streets' is an outdated concept leftstreet Sep 2013 #27

Agree completely. Maedhros Sep 2013 #43

Then Occupy was a failure? nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #47

Occupy was something of an anomaly - its message certainly resonated with the public. Maedhros Sep 2013 #53

it's actually a great example of the power of social media to organize nashville_brook Sep 2013 #97

It is exactly that aspect of Occupy that, in my opinion, moves it beyond a "protest" Maedhros Sep 2013 #98

Occupy was a hybrid, and much of the best stuff flew under the radar nashville_brook Sep 2013 #94

Um, no. Voters being denied the right to vote don't need your tweets. They need poll monitors. msanthrope Sep 2013 #46

"Um," You're drawing arbitrary lines. DirkGently Sep 2013 #66

+10000000 -- Arab Spring is the prime example of social media activism. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #82

Wow! Enthusiast Sep 2013 #117

When, and if, people are worried about it, they'll respond leftstreet Sep 2013 #68

if you want to "rally" voters, the best place to do that is social media nashville_brook Sep 2013 #78

Yup. woo me with science Sep 2013 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Sep 2013 #58

Depends on where you live too Vanje Sep 2013 #55

I cant pound the pavement where I live Vanje Sep 2013 #62

this is one of those things that we were very optimistic about in grad school nashville_brook Sep 2013 #92

It can be a springboard for activism BainsBane Sep 2013 #24

sitting around your living rarely engages thousands of people at a time... nashville_brook Sep 2013 #26

I believe one needs to engage people outside of DU BainsBane Sep 2013 #29

we're all welcome to have our own private definitions of things, but nashville_brook Sep 2013 #37

okay, I agree the party doesn't bother much with what the rank and file thinks BainsBane Sep 2013 #38

engagement is the first step! :) you're more of an activist than you know! nashville_brook Sep 2013 #44

Do casual visitors to the site, and lurkers, count as "outside DU?" Maedhros Sep 2013 #45

We all have our own definitions BainsBane Sep 2013 #63

Maybe not, but it's an important part of the overall effort. [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2013 #80

The composition of views on DU get noticed. DirkGently Sep 2013 #70

DU is often at the very top of google searches. woo me with science Sep 2013 #74

Noticed that. And apparently, some who argue so loudly that DirkGently Sep 2013 #122

DURec leftstreet Sep 2013 #28

Strange. Some have been quite apoplectic about defining 'journalist'. randome Sep 2013 #30

no irony that i can see -- except that there's some who seem interested in narrowing the definition nashville_brook Sep 2013 #35

Don't both argue for the broadest definitions? DirkGently Sep 2013 #123

Actually it's not at all oberliner Sep 2013 #33

yes, there's some here would like us to think that. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #39

Given the deep disagreements on things like elective war, chained CPI, cabinet appointments, Maedhros Sep 2013 #48

i know, right? an echo chamber would actually be much more peaceful! nashville_brook Sep 2013 #85

It's not always an echo chamber oberliner Sep 2013 #89

I suppose my point is that even if it is not activism, Maedhros Sep 2013 #90

True oberliner Sep 2013 #116

Thanks so much n_brook FredStembottom Sep 2013 #41

seriously, it's the lack of "values" messaging that has screwed us nashville_brook Sep 2013 #57

! FredStembottom Sep 2013 #61

totally agree! nashville_brook Sep 2013 #126

DUrec. & bookmarking for later PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #51

The NC group feels activist, particularly with Moral Mondays. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #54

the audience is NOT larger hfojvt Sep 2013 #56

If it weren't considered effective activism by the PTB, woo me with science Sep 2013 #59

beware of those who need to beat you down. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #65

+1 leftstreet Sep 2013 #71

There are all sorts of activism. MineralMan Sep 2013 #60

Did you ever read D.U. before you came over Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #106

If I can do it from my toilet, it's not activism NightWatcher Sep 2013 #64

You can phone bank or organize a march from the toilet too. DirkGently Sep 2013 #72

given that calling, petitioning and messaging *aren't* activism, what then is? nashville_brook Sep 2013 #76

The key to Activism is Active/Action NightWatcher Sep 2013 #79

so activism for you is getting tazed, chased by dogs and arrested. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #86

First comes the thought Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #99

Those who work diligently to inform us on DU are certainly activists grasswire Sep 2013 #69

Preaching to the chior may be important, but it isn't activism BlueStreak Sep 2013 #73

i'd argue that there's a difference btwn "preaching," "teaching" and "reaching" the choir nashville_brook Sep 2013 #75

You can't have activism without action -- action outside this bubble BlueStreak Sep 2013 #108

This "bubble" is open to anyone Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #109

Few come here who aren't already part of the club. BlueStreak Sep 2013 #110

The second sentence of your first paragraph partly makes my point Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #111

Nice. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #118

Debating (or agreeing) among ourselves is not activism BlueStreak Sep 2013 #127

We are not just ourselves, we're everybody that reads D.U. lurkers and even would be trolls that Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #128

I think it's more of an "activity" than activism. It's like going down to the park and sitting in MADem Sep 2013 #77

there's certainly posters here who come to shoot the shit nashville_brook Sep 2013 #95

education is activism DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #81

great example. i might not have taken an active interest in election reform nashville_brook Sep 2013 #84

A few people here have a 'Poo Poo on DU' agenda. Rex Sep 2013 #83

Activism is like journalism, you are if you say you are. You don't need permission. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #88

strange that it's even disputed...but glad it's being examined and hopefully nashville_brook Sep 2013 #91

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #96

We can tell from thread views that several more people read here than post. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #100

that's so awesome with the pic of the day... nashville_brook Sep 2013 #103

DU is activism Hydra Sep 2013 #101

i think there's issues that make more sense to explore online, too nashville_brook Sep 2013 #102

I have been one to say � 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2013 #104

it's the "engagement" piece of activism nashville_brook Sep 2013 #125

it is not necessarily activism - but it can be and sometimes, perhaps frequently is Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #107

Another Kick for pissing off all the Right people! Rex Sep 2013 #113

Now, that's activism! pintobean Sep 2013 #124

Kicked and recommended....nt Enthusiast Sep 2013 #119

Not to mention that when I signed up for DU JoeyT Sep 2013 #120

+1 nashville_brook Sep 2013 #129

Of course it is... SidDithers Sep 2013 #121