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ProSense

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15. The Next Real Fight for Obamacare Will Be in 2014
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 12:45 PM
Sep 2013
The Next Real Fight for Obamacare Will Be in 2014

Richard Kirsch

Progressives must get out in front of the battle to preserve the biggest expansion of the social safety net in decades.

It's been 100 years since ideological conservatives joined with doctors and insurance companies to kill the first movement in the United States for what was then called "compulsory health care." Now, on the eve of their epic loss, those who deeply hate the idea that we have a collective responsibility to care for each other are desperately trying to stop history's clock.

Beneath the tested rhetoric from opponents like the Heritage Foundation and Texas Senator Ted Cruz about a government takeover or Obamacare killing jobs and the economy, we can find expressions of the driving force behind the right's obsession. One telling quote is from Missouri State Senator Rob Shaaf, who declared, “We can’t afford everything we do now, let alone provide free medical care to able-bodied adults.” Another is the proud statement from Steve Lonegan, the Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in New Jersey, who told me in a debate on Obamacare at the FDR Library, “I only care about me and my family.” <..> celebrations of extreme individualism are bald expressions of the "47 percent of Americans are takers" ideology that has become the driving fixation of Republicans, with the latest example being the vote in the House to deny food stamps to 4 million people because they are unemployed.

The right most fears the establishment of another new program based on our common humanity...If this is a defining moment for the right, it is also for the left. As Jonathan Chait wrote this week, in a great restrospective on Republican opposition to the ACA, “The transformative potential of Obamacare is not a conservative hallucination.”

For all its faults, the Affordable Care Act is the biggest expansion in half a century of the progressive belief that we all do better when we all do better. Almost 50 years ago, Medicare was greeted by Ronald Reagan – then a mouthpiece for the American Medical Association – as a foot in the door to a totalitarian takeover. The right has long understood how high the American view of the role of government would be lifted if people came to rely on government for something as essential to a person's well-being as health care.

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It's Obamacare. [View all] ProSense Sep 2013 OP
Seniors benefit. ProSense Sep 2013 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #11
Mental health and addiction treatment covered ProSense Sep 2013 #20
Multi-state plans ProSense Sep 2013 #56
Accountable Care Organizations ProSense Sep 2013 #57
rec... handmade34 Sep 2013 #2
Comment 17 mentions VT Health Connect. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #18
COBRA just went up to over $1,400. It will drop by 1/2 under Obamacare. (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #3
It's funny because we are already seeing people on DU davidpdx Sep 2013 #4
Even In Texas The Republican Caricature Of Obamacare Is Meeting Reality ProSense Sep 2013 #12
We are in a similar type of position and paying just as much in premiums - TBF Sep 2013 #50
Sounds good. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #53
Thanks. Scurrilous Sep 2013 #5
And~ sheshe2 Sep 2013 #6
Thanks for that. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #13
I live in Massachusetts. Romney signed the law, but the Democratic legislature is bluestate10 Sep 2013 #28
Hello bluestate! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #31
K & R Iliyah Sep 2013 #7
In Georgia.... cynzke Sep 2013 #8
Interesting. In states like Georgia, ProSense Sep 2013 #16
We need single payer - TBF Sep 2013 #9
Single Payer movement in the era of Obamacare ProSense Sep 2013 #10
Adding this: Vermont Health Connect forums set for Monday ProSense Sep 2013 #17
Thank you for both posts - TBF Sep 2013 #23
You're welcome. See comment 12 for a post about Texas. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #37
Has Vermont gotten their waiver to start Green Mountain Care? IronLionZion Sep 2013 #24
The issue with the waiver ProSense Sep 2013 #33
The ACA will lead to Single Payer. Not because the ACA will fail as some here on DU pray bluestate10 Sep 2013 #29
That is the hope - TBF Sep 2013 #30
Nailed it... SidDithers Sep 2013 #36
That's why single payer advocates were locked out of the negotiations Fumesucker Sep 2013 #49
Yet the law ProSense Sep 2013 #51
Thanks Pro Sense and Thanks Mr President! nt Cryptoad Sep 2013 #14
The Next Real Fight for Obamacare Will Be in 2014 ProSense Sep 2013 #15
It's a step in the right direction, no doubt about that! SomethingFishy Sep 2013 #19
I really believe ProSense Sep 2013 #22
Really good to know, ProSense.. thank you for all Cha Sep 2013 #21
Stepping Back For A Clearer View BKH70041 Sep 2013 #25
No, ProSense Sep 2013 #26
To Clarify BKH70041 Sep 2013 #27
If the ACA is ging to fail or even mildly stink, republicans should be falling all over themselves bluestate10 Sep 2013 #32
Generally when an entitlement is in place... BKH70041 Sep 2013 #34
It will be the best thing to happen to this country since Medicare and Medicaid. Rex Sep 2013 #40
I had to deal with Medicare with both my parents. BKH70041 Sep 2013 #41
Oh I don't think it is a ride in the park. Rex Sep 2013 #42
I have no dispute with Medicare. BKH70041 Sep 2013 #43
It is the Democratic way! Rex Sep 2013 #44
DU rec...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #35
Bottom line: Obamacare really is for the 99% ProSense Sep 2013 #38
Needs to be a law in place that when you try and repeal a law Rex Sep 2013 #39
This isn't part of the health care law, but it certainly deserves exposure. ProSense Sep 2013 #45
Boink Scurrilous Sep 2013 #46
:-) n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #47
K&R for the straight facts. n/t Martin Eden Sep 2013 #48
Thanks. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #52
Quote: ProSense Sep 2013 #54
"everbody*" bunnies Sep 2013 #58
Like I said, ProSense Sep 2013 #59
Add this here: ProSense Sep 2013 #55
k&r... spanone Sep 2013 #60
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