General Discussion

OnionPatch

(6,327 posts)

24. + 1000

Tue Sep 24, 2013, 04:54 AM

Sep 2013

They can't stand the idea that down and out people can get help without groveling and being shamed and cajoled into joining their churches.

So......War is peace. Up is down. Helping people is hurting people.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

83 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Family Research Council believes kicking people off of food stamps is the Christian thing to do [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2013 OP

Blackwell also 'thought' that stealing an election was an OK thing to do. elleng Sep 2013 #1

k and r only because we really need to know this disgusting crap. hey, kenny boy, think about THIS niyad Sep 2013 #2

Ha, never heard that quote. Very good! Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2013 #23

That's because they are a political group and not a religious one. Rex Sep 2013 #3

Please do not make that mistake. longship Sep 2013 #7

True, I should not forget that. Rex Sep 2013 #10

It would push more people onto church charity LadyHawkAZ Sep 2013 #4

You nailed it! These are EVANGELICAL groups, alp227 Sep 2013 #8

To feed my family I have to attend 5 food pantries every month. Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #14

At least two of the ones where I lived in AZ required prayer or attendance LadyHawkAZ Sep 2013 #19

We have Evangelicals and Roman Catholics Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #20

you should post a thread about your experiences, Half-Centruy Man Skittles Sep 2013 #54

+ 1000 OnionPatch Sep 2013 #24

small c christian, big D Dominionist blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #5

I don't quite understand the Dominionist thing. No Vested Interest Sep 2013 #15

Its my understanding LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #29

It's just religious window dressing to justify fascistic political beliefs. n/t duffyduff Sep 2013 #52

An A-One asshole. xfundy Sep 2013 #6

Then Blackwell needs to get down with his christian stop eating Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #9

Bingo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2013 #11

Rock that cross! Grandflasher B Half-Century Man Sep 2013 #16

Nothing promotes atheism better than oppressive political agenda dressed as Chrisianity. mick063 Sep 2013 #12

I might frame it as "oppressive religious agenda driven by political agenda." cleanhippie Sep 2013 #28

Agreed LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #31

I'm not sure that they are turning people toward atheism, but are likely cleanhippie Sep 2013 #39

They say that about every policy they support. nyquil_man Sep 2013 #13

Christianity is about feeding the poor and healing the sick. Anybody who collects money The Second Stone Sep 2013 #17

So true dougolat Sep 2013 #22

What makes your interpretation od what "Christianity is about" any more valid than anothers? cleanhippie Sep 2013 #34

And what makes your assertion that The Second Stone Sep 2013 #35

Your lack of an answer is what supports my assertion. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #37

No I don't disagree with your premise The Second Stone Sep 2013 #44

What religious statement am I making with my avatar? This I gotta hear. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #47

You appear to be identifying with religion by mocking it by use of the avatar The Second Stone Sep 2013 #49

It's Buddy Jesus. What more of a statement can there be? cleanhippie Sep 2013 #51

Because Christianity started out around the New Testament mmonk Sep 2013 #61

Well then, you need to convince about a billion people that they are wrong. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #62

Hard to do since I don't really attend church anymore. mmonk Sep 2013 #64

Great! That group is doing some real good. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #65

Any movement of the people includes a variety of people mmonk Sep 2013 #66

You are right, the religious right doesn't get it, but they are empowered by more liberal believers. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #67

Agreed. mmonk Sep 2013 #68

We are on the same page, friend. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #73

I've lived long enough to see anything justified No Vested Interest Sep 2013 #18

I guess, like many supposed "Christians," he hasn't actually read the Bible... RedSpartan Sep 2013 #21

Perhaps, but the problem with using Bible verses to make one's point... cleanhippie Sep 2013 #30

+1000 (nt) LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #33

I hear you. RedSpartan Sep 2013 #45

What Bible verse says that feeding the poor is a plot to promote big government? Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2013 #56

What is your point? When one relies on scripture to support their position... cleanhippie Sep 2013 #59

Except that the Prosperity Gospel position isn't in Scripture Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2013 #70

It seems that you are making the "no true Scotsman" argument. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #74

And you are determined to be negative about religion, no matter what I say Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2013 #80

Religion is, at very best, a zero-sum proposition. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #81

Yes, I have always been against laws that come from the tenets of any particular religion Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2013 #82

Agreed. Seems we are speaking the same language. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #83

I raise you Paul and Proverbs nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #77

These assholes should realize they actually hurt more families than they help. Initech Sep 2013 #25

So now Ken Blackwell is a Christian theologist, too? closeupready Sep 2013 #26

What I find so very interesting is this same group wants "forced births" but after they Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #27

But they ARE following what they believe to be the teachings of Jesus. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #32

Jesus did not teach me to hate, to want little children to starve, did not teach me to hate Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #41

While I agree with you, your basing your values on scripture is just as invalid cleanhippie Sep 2013 #42

This guy is a hypocrite, he is against abortion before the child is born and then he wants Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #43

Again, you miss the point completely. Basing one's values on one's interpetation of scripture cleanhippie Sep 2013 #46

Maybe it is you who is missing the point, what group do you think this guy is associated? Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #48

Irrelevant. His religious-based reasoning is just as valid as yours. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #50

Now I understand, it is you who missed the point, start over and see what he was saying Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #53

Yeah, it was me basing my position on religious scripture, not you. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #58

Did you ever read in the scripture about Jesus feeding the multitude? You must not have, it is Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #69

I have. I've also read the parts where Jesus says terrible things too. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #72

Typical RW pseudo-Christian. Selfish, arrogant, hateful, bigoted, and greedy. nt Zorra Sep 2013 #36

What makes them a "pseudo-Christian"? cleanhippie Sep 2013 #38

Cleanhippie, I've been through the same bullcrap you're going through here. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2013 #57

Yep, it's as if the ability to use reason is completely shut off by belief. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #60

The difference is one between The Straight Story Sep 2013 #78

I agree that the similarities are there between religion and politics. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #79

Dear Republicans, avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #40

These RAPTURE REPUBLICANS will be punished for "adding" to the Bible. JEFF9K Sep 2013 #55

The FRC believes nuclear war is the Christian thing to do. ck4829 Sep 2013 #63

Perhaps it is, from their POV. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #75

Thesalonians nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #71

More great examples of why arguments an positions based in scripture are worthless. cleanhippie Sep 2013 #76