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215. It goes back at least to Bill Clinton, CDS was Clinton Deragement Syndrome

Tue Sep 24, 2013, 08:03 AM

Sep 2013

And here are a couple of cites for that...
November 12, 2007
By: Kevin Drum

"CDS....Question of the day: Why is Andrew Sullivan reduced to a state of semi-coherent frothing when the subject of Bill and Hillary Clinton comes up? I wouldn't bother asking except that over the past week or so this question has been the subject of numerous emails, listserv conversations, and even on Andrew's blog itself. It is a mystery.

I don't know the answer, but here's what seems most mysterious to me. Obviously lots of people suffer from Clinton Derangement Syndrome. That's not news...."
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2007_11/012491.php

Saturday :: Nov 17, 2007
Clinton Derangement Syndrome = CDS = Clinton Double-Standard

by eriposte

"Nothing is more "entertaining" these days than Recommended Diaries at Daily Kos by "progressives" opposed to Sen. Hillary Clinton. Here's one of the latest:

Clinton News Network = CNN (Yes, Updated)

The author, Icebergslim, has this extremely profound Straight-Talking Reality-BasedTM summary:

When you own the media, call in favors, plant questions, what else can you conclude?

A perfect example of CDS. "
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011361.php

Not the 'Reality Based' meme and other retread rhetoric.

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Time to cut the crap. Obama Derangement Syndrome doesn't really exist. [View all] last1standing Sep 2013 OP

Oh, my. No such thing as ODS. So it's really all about reverse ODS. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #1

No. I don't need to make up imaginary mental disorders to make my points. last1standing Sep 2013 #3

Pardon me, but when exactly did I call you a racist? Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #4

I never said you did. I'm responding to your claim that I accused others of "reverse ODS." last1standing Sep 2013 #8

That's pretty much what you are saying in the OP. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #15

That's not setting up a new insult, it's only tearing down the original one. last1standing Sep 2013 #31

But that is how the right uses the sham accusation of "reverse racism." Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #48

Astute observation. Laelth Sep 2013 #236

Racism is implied by those who throw around Paulbot accusations Bradical79 Sep 2013 #311

The Paulbot insult wasn't mentioned in the OP. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #372

No-one called you a racist intaglio Sep 2013 #181

No thanks. I had enough of her when she was here. last1standing Sep 2013 #362

You mean one of the most respected early members of DU intaglio Sep 2013 #364

How does she feel about the TPP? Enthusiast Sep 2013 #375

Read her blog intaglio Sep 2013 #376

Oh, they can post. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #412

That says volumes about you. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #382

Why read her? RetroLounge Sep 2013 #436

Have you? intaglio Sep 2013 #439

... RetroLounge Sep 2013 #441

Do you have anything to say about the substance of this OP, such as sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #38

I don't find this OP, based as it is on horseshit, to have any substance. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #100

I find plenty of substance in this OP. It is clearly pointing out that people are sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #110

"Slamming life long Democrats with riiculous nonsense that no sane person is going to believe" Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #131

+1000 Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #266

Are you denying that many DUers have OFTEN called those critical of Obama policies racists? n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #346

Are you denying that many DUers have OFTEN called people supporting the President center-right Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #373

I'll take your non response as confirmation of your ignorance. Dawgs Sep 2013 #413

Wow, your ability to avoid my point is circus-worthy. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #423

You answered my initial Q with a Q and you're accusing me of avoiding. Dawgs Sep 2013 #424

You asked a question for which you had no reason from my posts to ask. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #425

In the post I responded to - that's where. n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #426

This is simply false. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #427

I've never seen the racist accusation creeksneakers2 Sep 2013 #394

It was all over the place during the initial stages of the Snowden narrative. sibelian Sep 2013 #418

Yup, unnecessary caps makes you right intaglio Sep 2013 #182

This might be the best post EVER. LaydeeBug Sep 2013 #249

+1 L0oniX Sep 2013 #277

Thanks for trying Hydra Sep 2013 #288

Very well stated Sabrina 1. +1000 nt GoneFishin Sep 2013 #305

"Even Republicans don't have Obama Derangement Syndrome" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #338

You know every Republican in the country?? I know Republicans who VOTED sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #341

The vast majority hate him ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #342

I can't admit it because there is no such fucking disease. It's made up. last1standing Sep 2013 #363

As do I.... RedFury Sep 2013 #422

Good post. I think it's become clear that people on all sides are sick of the 'black and white' sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #429

I agree to a point, but there IS a larger picture Mellow Drama Sep 2013 #411

+1,000 Scuba Sep 2013 #200

Yup grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #240

So we've invaded a few small countries huh? JoePhilly Sep 2013 #2

Are Libya and Yemen small enough for you? last1standing Sep 2013 #5

But the topic is Obama isn't it. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2013 #10

We invaded Libya and Yemen? joshcryer Sep 2013 #16

Yes. We did. last1standing Sep 2013 #25

In what bases are our occupying forces, might I ask? joshcryer Sep 2013 #30

In my opinion, drone attacks count as invasions. last1standing Sep 2013 #34

I absolutely agree that drone attacks would be illegal internationally. joshcryer Sep 2013 #40

What is the "US interest" pray tell? dkf Sep 2013 #188

Whatever states agree to allow US drone attacks. joshcryer Sep 2013 #190

We are not participants in the ICC. dkf Sep 2013 #191

We don't have to be. joshcryer Sep 2013 #399

The hypocrisy stinks. dkf Sep 2013 #404

Some Pakistani politicans want to shoot them down. joshcryer Sep 2013 #407

No we didn't Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #365

No invasion, so that is a lie intaglio Sep 2013 #185

dfk proved you wrong about this so will you apologize for calling me a liar? last1standing Sep 2013 #220

There was no invasion intaglio Sep 2013 #321

We didn't invade either of those countries ... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #216

Blind anger seems to have impaired your reading comprehension. last1standing Sep 2013 #223

So you admit ODS exists. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #225

So you admit that you misread my OP and became needlessly beligerent about it. last1standing Sep 2013 #227

Your OP claims ODS doesn't exist ... it does ... and you now admit that. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #244

Why post fabrications to win internet points? last1standing Sep 2013 #247

You claimed that we invaded countries that we did not invade, and your OP JoePhilly Sep 2013 #248

As others have pointed out, Obama has invaded countries. last1standing Sep 2013 #250

We have not invaded any other countries, unless words stop meaning what they actually JoePhilly Sep 2013 #255

Ok, we're done. last1standing Sep 2013 #257

The OP is talking about center-right policy since Reagan. Laelth Sep 2013 #260

Then why mention Obama in the first sentence of that paragraph? JoePhilly Sep 2013 #261

Evidently it was not clear in the OP. Fair enough. Laelth Sep 2013 #265

so if current admin pays to do the questionseverything Sep 2013 #357

Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2013 #7

Libya dkf Sep 2013 #29

Nope intaglio Sep 2013 #183

Wide array of U.S. warplanes used in Libya attacks dkf Sep 2013 #184

My error, but would you rather Gaddhafi was still in power? intaglio Sep 2013 #186

It is none of our business and only creates more hatred towards us. dkf Sep 2013 #187

It is. bvar22 Sep 2013 #278

al Qaeda controls nothing intaglio Sep 2013 #329

We are about to make a habit of shock and awe and you don't even realize it. dkf Sep 2013 #189

Can we mark you as pro-Saddam Hussein? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #199

Anyone is entitled to disagree with the President's policies... brooklynite Sep 2013 #6

The insults have gove both ways. last1standing Sep 2013 #13

And in a country with proportional representation nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #17

All you have to do... brooklynite Sep 2013 #22

Nah, what I want requires an amendment nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #32

Assume you have proportional representation... brooklynite Sep 2013 #47

You'll have more parties than just that nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #65

No, we don't... brooklynite Sep 2013 #84

But there are different middles quakerboy Sep 2013 #138

Which is why it would be good nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #291

It's been done several times... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #82

It's not statistics nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #104

I don't entirely buy Mills' concept since... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #154

Look at Mexico. It's a bicameral system nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #290

Those are exactly the reasons a Third Part fails... brooklynite Sep 2013 #105

Wrong, your neighbors to the south do not have a Parliament nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #107

Those Populists weren't all that successful, being big... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #162

No, no need for a new party but people should treat others opinions as they want their own to be cstanleytech Sep 2013 #136

That is what has to be done treestar Sep 2013 #292

K & R Rex Sep 2013 #9

Kick and recommended nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #11

You can think whatever you want. This is America. xfundy Sep 2013 #12

Anyone who hates Obama for being black would also hate him for being a Democrat. last1standing Sep 2013 #18

Seriously? You think there are no racists in the Democratic party? LadyHawkAZ Sep 2013 #91

I think there is prejudice everywhere but not much actual racism in the Democratic party. last1standing Sep 2013 #108

There's racism right here on DU, my friend. I've witnessed it firsthand. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #206

I don't believe that. nt G_j Sep 2013 #270

You not believing it doesn't make it false. You just don't believe it. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #315

This on DU?? G_j Sep 2013 #344

Yes. I have personally witnessed racism on DU. Are you a person of color? Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #347

people on DU said G_j Sep 2013 #359

No, not in that specific case. I'm referring to general instances of racism that exists here. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #367

for sure it does G_j Sep 2013 #369

Oh, sorry for not being clearer. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #374

I was a moderator during that time... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #383

And that's not what I said. Read again. Go ahead. I did not assert that someone here on DU said Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #384

It is heavily implied... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #387

Really? Does it matter? I mean, why is it that people are always attempting to diminish others' Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #389

Well since you think I am targeting you... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2013 #391

Not just me. Open you eyes. Open your mind. Listen to anyone who tells you that they have Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #392

Here's an example of a thread that I believe is quite sexist... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #431

You're fucking out of your mind! There are indeed racists in the Democratic Party! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #205

But the people being accused of "ODS" have usually given thoughtful criticism of policy cui bono Sep 2013 #120

That is the point nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #123

Exactly. Plus... cui bono Sep 2013 #127

Yup nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #128

Obamacare is not Romneycare. joshcryer Sep 2013 #14

Exactly. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #20

I'm not claiming that Obama has done nothing good. last1standing Sep 2013 #21

No, your claim is Obama is "moving to the right." Your words. joshcryer Sep 2013 #27

Hold on a second. Are you claiming that Obama hasn't moved to the right since his campaigns? last1standing Sep 2013 #51

I'm saying he's been mostly consistent. joshcryer Sep 2013 #73

You see, I don't agree with you but I can see where you're coming from. last1standing Sep 2013 #86

I never saw ODS as racism or mental disturbance. joshcryer Sep 2013 #116

"Derangement" is in the name so they're definitely calling it a mental disturbance. last1standing Sep 2013 #122

That's the most negative definition. joshcryer Sep 2013 #125

Based on the context of the posts I've read I have to disagree with you. last1standing Sep 2013 #133

I'm not defending others' use of the word. joshcryer Sep 2013 #135

I know. last1standing Sep 2013 #142

By the way, this is the insinuation in context I'm talking about. last1standing Sep 2013 #145

Calling something a "syndrome" definitely has medical connotations, no? n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #246

You call it 'Hillarycare/Obamacare' but here is Obama in 08 explaining why he oppposed Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #212

Yeah, and I remember the Harry and Louise ads. joshcryer Sep 2013 #403

Obama didn't support chained CPI creeksneakers2 Sep 2013 #397

And it always came with a poverty threshold. joshcryer Sep 2013 #401

It's RomneyCare with some accoutrements MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #36

Romney vetoed "Romneycare." joshcryer Sep 2013 #42

He vetoed the whole thing? MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #44

What ProSense Sep 2013 #60

Wait... do *you* think Romney vetoed the whole thing? nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #62

He vetoed eight sections, including Medicaid, dental benefits and health coverage for seniors ProSense Sep 2013 #70

But he didn't veto the essential parts. nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #76

LOL. He vetoed the most significant parts of the bill added by the legislature ProSense Sep 2013 #78

The public health council and its power is HIGHLY essential. joshcryer Sep 2013 #92

He vetoed the bits making it look like Obamacare. joshcryer Sep 2013 #63

Hmm... What bits did he veto? MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #66

Here: ProSense Sep 2013 #72

The main thing was the public health council which acts as an HHS of sorts. joshcryer Sep 2013 #85

The non-profit plans are effective in 2014 ProSense Sep 2013 #96

Nah, different thing, it's going to come in waves. joshcryer Sep 2013 #109

I see, those are the Multi-state plans. ProSense Sep 2013 #115

Understood. joshcryer Sep 2013 #118

This is the Hiddent Backdoor to the Public Option Skraxx Sep 2013 #316

Yeah, I must have missed that too Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #217

Love that picture of Ted Kennedy. joshcryer Sep 2013 #410

When a President & Handlers and Dem Party...Allows "Obama Care" KoKo Sep 2013 #371

Bush made the deal that ended Iraq. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #69

McCain would have renegotiated SOFA during the 2009 bombings. joshcryer Sep 2013 #79

That's "toe" the line, like a runner lining up for a race... truebluegreen Sep 2013 #252

You can read McCain's comments on SOFA. joshcryer Sep 2013 #406

Your wish to falsify history... JackRiddler Sep 2013 #281

If Obama wanted to be in Iraq we would be in Iraq. joshcryer Sep 2013 #408

Bush adopted Obama's Iraq timeline JoePhilly Sep 2013 #219

Obama only wanted a smaller number creeksneakers2 Sep 2013 #400

Why resort to name-calling? chervilant Sep 2013 #193

Bullying is his main thing. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #285

Whoop, there it is. Moving to the left? I have more examples... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #207

"We objected when Bill Clinton moved to the right and we object when Obama does it now." ProSense Sep 2013 #19

Um... That "Wall Street Reform" link says the opposite MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #39

Here is what it says: ProSense Sep 2013 #45

Oh no ... they got to Eleizabeth Warren too!!! JoePhilly Sep 2013 #245

You will have to excuse them, they suffer from ODS. Rex Sep 2013 #300

Time to cut the crap. The "center-right" doesn't exist here at DU. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #23

Yes, it sure as hell does. Bonobo Sep 2013 #46

No, it sure as hell does not. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #55

LOL, only 6% supported it here. joshcryer Sep 2013 #126

LOL! You hate this thread so much you had to comment on it twice. :) last1standing Sep 2013 #57

Yes, I do hate threads that divide DU based on horseshit. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #61

But dividing DU by claiming over half the posters suffer from ODS is a good thing. last1standing Sep 2013 #93

The division there comes from the posters who seem to suffer from ODS Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #106

There was no such thing as Bush Derangement Syndrome. Hissyspit Sep 2013 #164

O, goodie! chervilant Sep 2013 #195

I have a window to understand how insulting ODS accusations can be. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #202

Oh, really? You hate threads that divide DU based on horseshit? Hissyspit Sep 2013 #163

Your recent attention to my posts is touching. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #166

Kindly refrain from giving me any advice, thank you. Hissyspit Sep 2013 #177

OK. But people will say you're in love. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #178

I don't see how that divides DU. It brings up very legitimate points. There is indeed Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #210

Assuming you're right ... Laelth Sep 2013 #283

O.K., whatever. I don't mind disagreeing with the president on policy decisions Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #318

I don't think we'll see a Republican President for several cycles. Laelth Sep 2013 #333

I'm frustrated with all of it. ALL OF IT! I hate fucking Republicans, but I'm angry Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #334

Interesting. Laelth Sep 2013 #339

Then you didn't read the thread or you're seeing what you want to see. Hissyspit Sep 2013 #353

O.K., I'm going to read it again, then I'll come back. I'm going to be fair. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #354

Buuuuullllllshiiiiiiittt. Union Scribe Sep 2013 #87

Yeah, like Third-Way Manny, right? Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #102

If your contention is that those people Union Scribe Sep 2013 #113

Um, right. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #119

The center-right most certainly exists here. I have seen defense of drone strikes, cui bono Sep 2013 #147

So does ODS. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #148

Okay, so you concede there are center-right on DU. cui bono Sep 2013 #149

No, actually, I don't. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #151

Okay, I thought you did since you said something like "there are also". cui bono Sep 2013 #153

Since some of you are referencing me, let me put in this... ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2013 #173

Look who calls the kettle black. WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #279

How could he disrupt so well if he was not on DU? Rex Sep 2013 #317

I agree. I'm just hoping this personage WCLinolVir Sep 2013 #396

I don't hold Skinner's site in low regard... ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2013 #393

Two things. Laelth Sep 2013 #309

You ask several good questions... ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2013 #386

The center-right doesn't exist here? YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #172

The OP didn't say the center-right exists on DU. Laelth Sep 2013 #275

That was some strong projection by the BOG host. Rex Sep 2013 #298

Sure it does! They live in the BOG and you are their leader. Rex Sep 2013 #297

I am their leader. You flatter me. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #368

Certainly does. sibelian Sep 2013 #419

Labels are handy. Octafish Sep 2013 #24

^^^^ nt grasswire Sep 2013 #50

Hit the nail right on the head! Oakenshield Sep 2013 #90

This is the correct answer. woo me with science Sep 2013 #112

+100 and 1 840high Sep 2013 #314

Moreover, the extremely conservative wet dream of burgeoning income inequality has raged indepat Sep 2013 #320

. jazzimov Sep 2013 #26

You used a ROFL smiley. Your argument is invalid. tkmorris Sep 2013 #43

That album is so #%^*ing awesome MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #52

Please show examples. Thank you. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #150

I think there is an ODS, but it is on the right quinnox Sep 2013 #28

I agree, I don't think Dems suffer from ODS. Rex Sep 2013 #35

The GOP adds ODS to a number of other issues they suffer from. quinnox Sep 2013 #37

After thinking about it more, I believe BOG members suffer from ODS. Rex Sep 2013 #168

This is my all time favorite example of ODS: joshcryer Sep 2013 #49

and that person who wrote the OP was tombstoned quinnox Sep 2013 #64

I'm linking to a subthread, the OP is irrelevant. joshcryer Sep 2013 #132

Case in point "birthers" who in the same breath ignore Cruz is a Canadian. gordianot Sep 2013 #53

No question, "birth-ism" is a prime symptom quinnox Sep 2013 #59

We used to just call that racism. last1standing Sep 2013 #95

Yes, racism describes it well. gordianot Sep 2013 #155

Republicans may suffer from DDS and BDS but not likely ODS. last1standing Sep 2013 #71

Well, trying to figure out the various afflictions of these republican bozos is probably a waste quinnox Sep 2013 #80

We definitely agree on that. last1standing Sep 2013 #114

They hate, hate, hate them some Jimmy too. TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #398

Qoutes Goering 'nuf said lunasun Sep 2013 #33

It's a rhetorical construct intended to inhibit conversation. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #41

+1 JackRiddler Sep 2013 #74

That's exactly what it is. last1standing Sep 2013 #101

Precisely! n/t markpkessinger Sep 2013 #165

To me, "hater" and "ODS" are flashing neon signs reading: Don't Take Me Seriously. winter is coming Sep 2013 #218

Of course it is. sibelian Sep 2013 #420

Total bullshit OP. rury Sep 2013 #54

Another one awakens. Lol. nt Union Scribe Sep 2013 #88

Awakens? cui bono Sep 2013 #174

Reanimates would probably be a better term Fumesucker Sep 2013 #196

Must have escaped from the ignore dungeon. L0oniX Sep 2013 #280

I think "escaped from the drawer" is more likely. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #295

Well if you say so.... last1standing Sep 2013 #97

Oh yeah? TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #56

Your criteria for expressing an opinion would shut this site down in 24 hours. last1standing Sep 2013 #83

That's pretty much what I was saying, although... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #98

"And it often seems to come just because there's nothing else around to bash him with." Number23 Sep 2013 #179

K&R! Phlem Sep 2013 #58

Was I the only one who thought it was satire? n/t cynatnite Sep 2013 #67

The OP just demonstrated ODS exists. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #68

And your post just demonstrated everything I wrote about. last1standing Sep 2013 #75

Goody. Maybe you'll get quoted on some radio show. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #81

So long as it's not Stephanie Miller I'm good with that. last1standing Sep 2013 #89

Figures. You're good with Limbaugh but not Stephanie Miller. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #156

LOL! You can't even troll well. last1standing Sep 2013 #157

Calls pro-Obama Dems trolls. Check. Fake laughter. Check. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #160

Grief! How much will you change this post before you're satisfied? last1standing Sep 2013 #253

you should read some of replies on my facebook page madrchsod Sep 2013 #77

That may be what I usually call old fashioned racism. last1standing Sep 2013 #94

K&R Nice try, thank you for the effort. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #99

K&R DeSwiss Sep 2013 #103

Thank you! BuelahWitch Sep 2013 #111

It's a derailment tactic. JoeyT Sep 2013 #117

"Even republicans aren't affected with ODS." ProSense Sep 2013 #121

Cruz doesn't hate Obama, he hates what he thinks Obama stands for. last1standing Sep 2013 #130

Oh please. ProSense Sep 2013 #134

Every now and then I try to have a rational conversation with you. last1standing Sep 2013 #137

This is becoming parody ProSense Sep 2013 #140

That you think those 2 statements are the same says it all. nt laundry_queen Sep 2013 #204

Enlighten me. ProSense Sep 2013 #224

Not worth my time laundry_queen Sep 2013 #251

Well, ProSense Sep 2013 #254

I'm sorry your brain cannot grasp the concept. Really, I am. nt laundry_queen Sep 2013 #262

I sorry that you believe you're smarter because you think "hate" is reasonable. n/t ProSense Sep 2013 #263

I'm sorry you feel the need to put words in my mouth and lie about what I said. nt laundry_queen Sep 2013 #267

You attempted create a distinction between "hate" and "unreasonable" ProSense Sep 2013 #268

You still don't get it. It's sad. nt laundry_queen Sep 2013 #269

Get this: ProSense Sep 2013 #273

ooo a linkie! To try prove something I never asserted! nt laundry_queen Sep 2013 #308

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2013 #388

I learned today that it originated as a right wing meme against Bush critics. cui bono Sep 2013 #124

Quite correct . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #169

It goes back at least to Bill Clinton, CDS was Clinton Deragement Syndrome Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #215

the sad part is that the RW was not expounding that crap G_j Sep 2013 #274

Sure it does. madamesilverspurs Sep 2013 #129

+1, madamesilverspurs Hekate Sep 2013 #139

There is a lot of pretending going on ProSense Sep 2013 #141

Hey folks, look! ProSense is insinuating that we're "guilt absolving." last1standing Sep 2013 #143

Damn right. ProSense Sep 2013 #146

Right HERE you blatantly tried to get others to come bully ProSense. DevonRex Sep 2013 #180

Strange Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #198

It is a term created by those that cannot stand any kind of criticism. Rex Sep 2013 #144

LOL! Just like there isn't any racism on the right, right? Drunken Irishman Sep 2013 #152

"I'm not saying many republican's aren't racist, we all know many are." last1standing Sep 2013 #158

Right...it just furthers my point. Drunken Irishman Sep 2013 #161

Thanks for clearing that up. 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #159

Horseshit. It's about his race, and everyone really knows it, 6000eliot Sep 2013 #167

Yeah, right . . . markpkessinger Sep 2013 #170

If it doesn't apply to you, then it doesn't apply to you, but to deny that it exists... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #214

Believe what you want to believe YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #171

Yeah, and opposing Anne Coulter is misogynist. sibelian Sep 2013 #421

The haters are going to hate........eom Hobo Sep 2013 #175

Kicked and rec'd. Th1onein Sep 2013 #176

Aaargh! Make it stop. Make all this suckass moron fucking self-righteous cali Sep 2013 #192

interesting attempt. reddread Sep 2013 #228

Me thinks thou doth protest to much! whistler162 Sep 2013 #194

I don't see DUers calling other DUers racists? B Calm Sep 2013 #197

It doesn't happen. I find it interesting, too. It's the same knee-jerk argument Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #213

We've had people here piss on Obama for being photographed with kids BeyondGeography Sep 2013 #201

Again, to pretend that there is no difference between sincere expressions of Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #203

Shouting and CAPS TYPE are not nearly as persuasive as supporting one's assertions with Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #222

+1. last1standing Sep 2013 #226

Make your own arguments. What was extreme about what I wrote? Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #235

When you can post in this thread without the hyperbole and ALLCAPS!!!111!!!, I will. last1standing Sep 2013 #237

LOL! Your OP is nothing but hyperbole. But, I get it. You have no arguments to Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #239

Yep. Those are the kinds of comments you'll have to leave behind if you want to discuss this with m last1standing Sep 2013 #243

My extreme assertions? What do you mean by extreme? I think I made myself very clear Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #234

I am curious why The Group seem to avoid posts like the following rhett o rick Sep 2013 #361

Where was this posted? I don't visit the BOG often. Was this posted there? Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #366

ODS does exist! ananda Sep 2013 #208

Actually, it does--on the right at least. Arkana Sep 2013 #209

ODS doesn't exist on my DU Marrah_G Sep 2013 #211

K&R 99Forever Sep 2013 #221

birtherism is proof ODS exists scheming daemons Sep 2013 #229

Birtherism is old fashioned ignorant racism, nothing more or less. last1standing Sep 2013 #231

Support for the ACA is 10% higher than for "Obamacare". This is proof of ODS. scheming daemons Sep 2013 #230

Or it could be a sign that republicans like the policies but don't like Democrats who propose them. last1standing Sep 2013 #233

Agreed. An ODS accusation is a lazy way to avoid discussion. Laelth Sep 2013 #232

Like "paid shill," "Third Way/DLCer" or ProSense Sep 2013 #238

Clearly you don't need to call people names to dodge a question, that's clear. bobduca Sep 2013 #241

Those labels may be accurate, for all I know. Laelth Sep 2013 #256

"In fact, none of the above are lazy excuses to avoid discussion. " ProSense Sep 2013 #258

I never used the word "only" in regards to lazy ways to avoid discussion. Laelth Sep 2013 #264

It's relevant bobduca Sep 2013 #272

I appreciate the many informative OPs Pro has given us over the years. Laelth Sep 2013 #276

Trying to make Pro's point for her bobduca Sep 2013 #302

I hear you. Laelth Sep 2013 #307

she bravely endures RetroLounge Sep 2013 #438

I don't "discuss" things with people when they use terms like "death panels" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #345

Hmm. Laelth Sep 2013 #349

I certainly agree they hate all Democrats ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #351

Indeed. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #352

Don't piss down my back and tell me its raining! BootinUp Sep 2013 #242

Agreed. The premise in the OP is easily disproven by looking at page one of GD. Trashing thread. nt stevenleser Sep 2013 #259

thank you. +1M. nt magical thyme Sep 2013 #271

You are dead wrong, Standing Nitram Sep 2013 #282

True, the Rs are desperate and increasingly shrill and obstinate. Laelth Sep 2013 #287

Thank You !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #284

You've obviously done very good work. JackRiddler Sep 2013 #286

Agree with this: ProSense Sep 2013 #293

Did you hear yourself called by my comment? JackRiddler Sep 2013 #324

I agree and I cannot stop laughing at their hypocrisy. Rex Sep 2013 #299

+1 SunSeeker Sep 2013 #319

It appears that the overwhelming majority of posters claiming that some DUers Zorra Sep 2013 #330

You'll never believe the jury I got last night... JackRiddler Sep 2013 #340

I believe it. The problem we progressives have is that, when Obama said "make me do it" Zorra Sep 2013 #358

CENTRISM!!!! bvar22 Sep 2013 #380

+1 for your post. Laelth Sep 2013 #350

DURec leftstreet Sep 2013 #289

Bahahaha! Funny post. Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #294

I've been ignoring the latest and greatest smears Hydra Sep 2013 #296

Meanwhile back on the Farm,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #301

ODS is real. beerandjesus Sep 2013 #303

So, I take it heaven05 Sep 2013 #304

Um.... beerandjesus Sep 2013 #326

okay heaven05 Sep 2013 #377

"Does anyone remember how the right .... AlbertCat Sep 2013 #306

The Rs were not kind to Clinton. Laelth Sep 2013 #312

Impeach Clinton bumper stickers were circulated before his inaugural reddread Sep 2013 #325

Welcome to DU. Laelth Sep 2013 #335

thank you reddread Sep 2013 #343

No doubt. Laelth Sep 2013 #348

They called Clinton a commie agent JackRiddler Sep 2013 #327

I got called a Commie Pinko Liberalynn Sep 2013 #331

They called Clinton a commie agent AlbertCat Sep 2013 #414

Well, obviously! JackRiddler Sep 2013 #417

the first person to call Clinton the first black president was doing so in praise AlbertCat Sep 2013 #432

Two words: Arkansas Project YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #409

two more words AlbertCat Sep 2013 #415

Faulty logic... Orsino Sep 2013 #310

K/R 840high Sep 2013 #313

It's telling that the concept is from Krauthammer... JackRiddler Sep 2013 #322

This is how I look at it Liberalynn Sep 2013 #323

It does for the GOP, ODS is a spot on to describe them. Rex Sep 2013 #328

I disagree with the poster. I think ODS does exist here. There are days when I have to do a double OregonBlue Sep 2013 #332

Not true! I have it!!! I tried to get it cured but grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #336

Unrec ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2013 #337

I disagree ColumbusLib Sep 2013 #355

And I respect that. last1standing Sep 2013 #390

Hmmm Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2013 #356

I have never criticized his center-right policies. I only criiticize his extreme right-wing policies BlueStreak Sep 2013 #360

last1standing...Applaud your Reply! KoKo Sep 2013 #370

LOL Scurrilous Sep 2013 #378

bullshit. ODS is just another term for "the idiot whining left ignores talk radio" same as certainot Sep 2013 #379

Obama himself would find them utterly ridiculous Skittles Sep 2013 #381

About ignoring them? Rex Sep 2013 #395

I keep a couple off Ignore for entertainment purposes Skittles Sep 2013 #405

Oh same here! I just blocked the hatemongers from the BOG Rex Sep 2013 #416

. baldguy Sep 2013 #385

They went nuts because Michelle Obama is urging people to drink more water. Tigress DEM Sep 2013 #402

Truth be told, Obama and his admin had the best of intentions Taverner Sep 2013 #428

Nope, no ODS from the left at all... SidDithers Sep 2013 #430

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #433

So all you have are insults but I'm the one who's deranged. last1standing Sep 2013 #434

I agree with you PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #435

Well put... RetroLounge Sep 2013 #437

It isn't a literal ailment lol AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #440