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AndyTiedye

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20. We Blame Him for INTENTIONALLY Running a SPOILER Campaign

Reply to cherokeeprogressive (Original post)

Fri Mar 2, 2012, 03:03 AM

Mar 2012

Nader was running as a spoiler. There is no getting around that fact.
In every swing state that was a "must-win" for Gore, there was Nader attacking him.
Nader didn't spend nearly as much energy attacking Bush as he did Gore.

If Nader was just trying to get over 5%, as he claimed, he would have spent more time
campaigning in the big blue states like New York and California where there would have
been more sympathetic voters. Instead, he only showed up in those states to raise money,
then spent it in the small swing states, attacking Gore.

Nader even admitted to running a spoiler campaign at the outset, though that has not been widely reported.

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For the Nader Haters: a question. If you blame Gore's alleged 500 vote loss in 2000 on Nader [View all] cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 OP

Not one of those things detracts from Nader's responsibility to be truthful. n/t LoZoccolo Mar 2012 #1

Electric Monk Mar 2012 #3

Truthful politicians.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #4

Dude! Rex Mar 2012 #9

Would that make me happy? mac56 Mar 2012 #38

Then what should he do? Rex Mar 2012 #59

For starters, he can acknowledge that he mac56 Mar 2012 #61

Or, the thousands of Democrats who voted for Bush? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2012 #2

300,000 Democrats in Florida voted for Bush. 10-11 million nationwide. But nope it's Luminous Animal Mar 2012 #11

A lot of people here only work in binary mode. Rex Mar 2012 #60

Nader belongs with that list of other delusional losers Orangepeel Mar 2012 #5

How bout we blame that fucker named Chad???? Devil_Fish Mar 2012 #6

Blame the Corrupt Supreme Court Hawkowl Mar 2012 #7

Indeed. Webster Green Mar 2012 #12

True, but irrelevant Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #34

Wrong dpibel Mar 2012 #35

Correct, and I blame the corrupt SCOTUS most of all. Lasher Mar 2012 #44

Blame Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush's illegal "purging" of 90,000 voters. SharonAnn Mar 2012 #57

Yep libodem Mar 2012 #8

We know he's a loser. If he was really concerned for the U.S., he would have run demosincebirth Mar 2012 #10

+1 mac56 Mar 2012 #37

You're not going to get a real answer. ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #13

Nah, it's more about having a scapegoat.. Fumesucker Mar 2012 #15

Not sure..... NCTraveler Mar 2012 #32

Yes, that is a BIG reason. n/t zappaman Mar 2012 #41

Because none of those people promised to run only in mzmolly Mar 2012 #14

Promises? I can think of 437 politicians in this country whose promises aren't worth the paper cherokeeprogressive Mar 2012 #16

Are we allowed to critique the 437 politicians who didn't keep their promises mzmolly Mar 2012 #18

Indded, I hate them ALL DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #17

Oh for Christ's sake. Zoeisright Mar 2012 #19

Explain to me how Nader... NeoGreen Mar 2012 #28

We Blame Him for INTENTIONALLY Running a SPOILER Campaign AndyTiedye Mar 2012 #20

Nader was running because of his own ego and his personal vindictiveness toward Clinton-Gore RFKHumphreyObama Mar 2012 #23

+1000 ellisonz Mar 2012 #55

wasn�t he heavily funded by republicans left is right Mar 2012 #27

Because of the proportions Motown_Johnny Mar 2012 #21

Forget Florida. Old and In the Way Mar 2012 #22

How about blaming Ted Kennedy for electing Ronald Reagan? the other one Mar 2012 #24

Because hardly any Democrats voted for those other candidates piedmont Mar 2012 #25

Umm, because he got 97,488 votes in Florida? pokerfan Mar 2012 #26

I don't hate nader or anyone else NNN0LHI Mar 2012 #29

Seems more than fair to me. Robb Mar 2012 #36

it's a fucking gas... mention nader and all the anti-dem DUers crawl out of the woodwork to defend dionysus Mar 2012 #40

+1 n/t FSogol Mar 2012 #42

!!! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2012 #54

Didn't your Mama ever tell you that 2 wrongs don't make a right? Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #30

Because nader pulled votes from gore, those guys pulled votes from bush mostly scheming daemons Mar 2012 #31

How about Gore's shilling for NAFTA? Does it figure at all? Romulox Mar 2012 #33

the anti dem nader apologists crack me up... dionysus Mar 2012 #39

Because Nader got almost 3 percent of the national popular vote . . . mistertrickster Mar 2012 #43

people get out of whack when some (on here) are called 'Obama haters' WI_DEM Mar 2012 #45

It's his ProSense Mar 2012 #46

What's to hate? AtomicKitten Mar 2012 #47

Actually, I blame Al Gore... brooklynite Mar 2012 #48

Clinton never had to run after lying to the people and being impeached, he left that to Gore. Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #51

Clinton left office with high popularity... brooklynite Mar 2012 #52

Clinton didn't have to campaign, he didn't weather the storm, the War Against Gore started Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #53

...Because it was ALL Nader's fault, bvar22 Mar 2012 #49

Because Browne and Phillips took votes from Bush*, not Gore KamaAina Mar 2012 #50

Hagelin should have used the powers of the mind to remove all hanging chads n/t RZM Mar 2012 #56

Because none of them ran around for three months loudly yelling Arkana Mar 2012 #58

i've seen the pro nader jokers come and go here for 11 years... they will always be with us... dionysus Mar 2012 #64

targeted assassination, indefinite detention, free trade agreements.. frylock Mar 2012 #65

When Lieberman on the ticket.. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #66

LOL, like that was really an "election". It was a "selection". just1voice Mar 2012 #62

Start with Gore. rudycantfail Mar 2012 #63