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SheilaT

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18. I don't want her.

Wed Sep 25, 2013, 04:54 PM

Sep 2013

And all this nonsense about how she's the best candidate or how she's completely inevitable reveals an amazing lack of knowledge of history.

1991. It was so incredibly obvious that George HW Bush was going to be completely unbeatable in '92 that all the logical Democratic candidates simply didn't bother to run. Remember his second term? Wait, no, who was it that won the '92 election again?

2001. We're still smarting from the fact that W stole the election but took great comfort in the fact that Al Gore would definitely run again and this time would win.

2005. Hard to believe that the Democrats lost again, but took comfort in the fact that when John Kerry ran in 2008 he'd surely win.

2007. Hillary Clinton is by far the best candidate ever, and she'll not only get the nomination in a cake walk but she'll win in a landslide.

Those last three come mainly from the sentiments here on DU (but not only here on DU) in the years indicated. Nothing is inevitable, with the possible exception of sunrise and death.

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Who does not want Hillary Clinton to be our candidate in 2016? [View all] fadedrose Sep 2013 OP

No. n/t Frankie the Bird Sep 2013 #1

Raises hand. bunnies Sep 2013 #2

No. To her and the 3rd Way. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #3

No. Still waiting to hear what serious issue she took up and led as a senator. blm Sep 2013 #4

I would like to see someone 'new' as the Democratic candidate - go forward not backward... Tx4obama Sep 2013 #5

Did the broker of the Israeli/Egyptian peace accord have foreign policy experience? MNBrewer Sep 2013 #40

Regarding Obama Warren Tx4obama Sep 2013 #42

Can we at least wait to see who is in the primary? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #6

No - though I will vote for her if she is the nominee karynnj Sep 2013 #7

Not my first choice and Skidmore Sep 2013 #8

No. Cleita Sep 2013 #9

Me! tularetom Sep 2013 #10

Not my first, second, third or fourth choice, but I'll vote for her if she's the nominee. Borchkins Sep 2013 #11

No. I'd like to hang out with her but want a populist in the WH polichick Sep 2013 #12

Seems like an up or down poll Control-Z Sep 2013 #13

She'd be even more centrist than Obama davidn3600 Sep 2013 #14

I'd much rather have Spirochete Sep 2013 #15

My sig says who I want Aerows Sep 2013 #16

I want the Democrat who has the best chance of winning. zappaman Sep 2013 #17

I don't want her. SheilaT Sep 2013 #18

I have a no here. She is too hated by the republicans which will pre-empt cross-over votes. shraby Sep 2013 #19

she would be no worse than any other "mainstream" Democrat that has come close to winning the Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #20

I would prefer that she does not run, but if she runs and wins, I will support her. Mass Sep 2013 #21

I'd like to see someone else..n/t monmouth3 Sep 2013 #22

I don't. morningfog Sep 2013 #23

Me. *raises hand* nt City Lights Sep 2013 #24

No thank you. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #25

NO (in loud caps) n/t Whisp Sep 2013 #26

NO, I do not want Hillary Clinton to be our candidate in 2016. n/t Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #27

No - I do not want her Taverner Sep 2013 #28

No no and no montanacowboy Sep 2013 #29

No, don't want her. NV Whino Sep 2013 #30

Hillary SamKnause Sep 2013 #31

I am against dynasties in American politics. tridim Sep 2013 #32

Nope, still don't want her (nt) Ino Sep 2013 #33

No n/t sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #34

No, but like mentioned above, I will happily vote for her if she is the nominee. Ruby the Liberal Sep 2013 #35

Me! Anyone but Hillary LittleBlue Sep 2013 #36

+1 N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #123

Not me... HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #37

I will never vote for Hillary Clinton.... mike_c Sep 2013 #38

Nope MNBrewer Sep 2013 #39

NO. Entirely too Neo-Liberal! TheJames Sep 2013 #41

Cheers! Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #43

Do. Not. Want. nt PassingFair Sep 2013 #44

No. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #45

No Clinton or any other corporate 3rd wayer. 99Forever Sep 2013 #46

NO fletchthedubs Sep 2013 #47

I won't support HRC, nor will I support anyone associated w/the "DLC" (now 3rd way) Melinda Sep 2013 #48

No thanks to her candidacy. AtomicKitten Sep 2013 #49

NO DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #50

I don't want her to be the candidate bowens43 Sep 2013 #51

We should explore other options but.. DCBob Sep 2013 #52

Shivers intensely and raises hand. No. Phlem Sep 2013 #53

no 90-percent Sep 2013 #54

Hell NO!!! I'm tired of corporate Democrats selling us out! She and Bill did it the 1st 2 times. Dustlawyer Sep 2013 #55

I voted for Hillary in the Primary. GentryDixon Sep 2013 #56

HILLARY WILL BE FAR STRONGER IN 2016 THAN 2008 coldmountain Sep 2013 #58

Caps lock is over there <--------- DJ13 Sep 2013 #91

Nope. cloudbase Sep 2013 #57

Do not want. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #59

No, Elizabeth Warren should be our first women President. rgbecker Sep 2013 #60

No. I'll stay home. GoneFishin Sep 2013 #61

Don't stay home - you can skip voting on the presidential race if you choose dflprincess Sep 2013 #94

Good point. The other races are important also. GoneFishin Sep 2013 #177

No...one-hundred times "No!" Chan790 Sep 2013 #62

I'd settle for Hillary Prophet 451 Sep 2013 #63

I don't. n/t winter is coming Sep 2013 #64

Hear Eddie Haskell Sep 2013 #65

here Eddie Haskell Sep 2013 #66

No FarCenter Sep 2013 #67

She'a a hawk. Want more War? broiles Sep 2013 #68

No. baldguy Sep 2013 #69

No, because I feel there are better options for 2016 Chisox08 Sep 2013 #70

I'd very much rather she weren't. But Big Money will pick our candidate, so it doesn't really matter scarletwoman Sep 2013 #71

Gawd no! More of the same is not what we need. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #72

I don't want her, but I don't see anyone else on the horizon DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #73

Another no to another Clinton. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #74

Don't think DU can be a good sample...but I don't believe in Dynasties. KoKo Sep 2013 #75

Hillary will be far harder to beat in 2016 and she was right to laugh at Ghaddafi's death coldmountain Sep 2013 #78

If she is the last resort then what does that say about our Dem Party, though? KoKo Sep 2013 #84

Howard Dean wouldn't have done any worse than the eventual 2004 nominee did Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #183

I don't think even Dean thinks that karynnj Oct 2013 #185

Not as things stand right now. I've always considered her far too conservative kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #76

Not only NO!, but RC Sep 2013 #77

Me. arcane1 Sep 2013 #79

no Howler Sep 2013 #80

Polls are mere snapshots DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2013 #81

No ...unless Jerry Springer is her running mate. L0oniX Sep 2013 #82

No RedCappedBandit Sep 2013 #83

Wow! If she gets the nomination, I expect this place to be empty! zappaman Sep 2013 #85

No war, no dynasty. leveymg Sep 2013 #86

Yes. Where are all her supporters? There are a bunch in the Hillary group. Come out & vote. northoftheborder Sep 2013 #87

DU not representative.from DU you'd think Apple was going out of business instead of breaking record coldmountain Sep 2013 #88

No. Too centrist / DLC / third way / corporate. n/t X_Digger Sep 2013 #89

No thank you! kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #90

I don't. I'm really hoping someone from the Democratic wing of the party runs. n/t dflprincess Sep 2013 #92

old wine in old bottles madrchsod Sep 2013 #93

I don't see how she motivates young or minority voters to go to the polls. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #95

Baby Boomers are still the biggest voting bloc and whites are still a majority coldmountain Sep 2013 #99

In the states with the largest number of electoral votes? By what margin? n/t cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #101

538 blog likes Hillarys chances! She dominates all polling coldmountain Sep 2013 #109

Yeah. You didn't answer the question. Are you coldmountain4anything? cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #112

You getting that g4a vibe too, eh? X_Digger Sep 2013 #117

From the git-go. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #119

Michelle gets in after Hillary's running mate is in for their 8 years coldmountain Sep 2013 #118

Tony Villar? Seriously? Isn't he homeless now? You ARE graham4anything aren't you... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #122

In 2012 even in California 67% of voters were non Hispanic whites coldmountain Sep 2013 #113

so,is that what this is about DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #131

Obama's the one that holds Reagan in such high esteem coldmountain Sep 2013 #133

so, it is 2013 DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #136

Working hard to win and helping Democrats to win coldmountain Sep 2013 #139

Nonsense. Beacool Sep 2013 #165

She's an old-school political insider. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #171

No. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #96

No! n/t mimi85 Sep 2013 #97

No PADemD Sep 2013 #98

Not just no, but hell no. woo me with science Sep 2013 #100

No, I don't want her. (nt) bigwillq Sep 2013 #102

Not really... daleanime Sep 2013 #103

I'll take Hillary. bravenak Sep 2013 #104

Reccing for the dumbest thread of the week. madinmaryland Sep 2013 #105

I want Cher! graywarrior Sep 2013 #107

Not voting for anyone who takes money from highmindedhavi Sep 2013 #106

Good god , no. n/t Smarmie Doofus Sep 2013 #108

No thanks to Hillary! rdharma Sep 2013 #110

She is a week candidate, she got beat by an unknown black man last time krawhitham Sep 2013 #111

No thank you. Do not need blatant imperialists! Or Walmart lawyers either. Sognefjord Sep 2013 #114

No. I want to see others, but am leaning toward Warren. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #115

I think a lot of people here... Bigmack Sep 2013 #116

Obama turned out to be Clinton in drag! Why be so against the real thing ? coldmountain Sep 2013 #120

because many of us who voted DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #126

You will not get a pony this time either. Just let Hillary win and work on the house coldmountain Sep 2013 #132

Pony DonCoquixote Sep 2013 #134

Why not tell the truth about Hillarys involvement with WalMart? She was not an executive coldmountain Sep 2013 #145

No on Clinton or any DLC/Turd Way candidate. I will enojy watching T-baggers heads ass-plode if Hill Erose999 Sep 2013 #121

What does that tell you that the Baggers hate Hillary so much? coldmountain Sep 2013 #135

They hate her because they have no idea how the system works. They hate who Rush tells them to hate. Erose999 Oct 2013 #184

hell no! n/t wildbilln864 Sep 2013 #124

NO. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #125

Nah. TroglodyteScholar Sep 2013 #127

No. lob1 Sep 2013 #128

Absolutely not. Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #129

No, I don't really want her to be the nominee. TDale313 Sep 2013 #130

I will support the nominee, Clinton or another... Mike Nelson Sep 2013 #137

No joelz Sep 2013 #138

No Hillary for me. dkf Sep 2013 #140

No Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2013 #141

I am only literally answering the question you posed. Deep13 Sep 2013 #142

I'd vote for her if she won the 2016 primary, but she's said repeatedly she's not running. And struggle4progress Sep 2013 #143

No. area51 Sep 2013 #144

How does a non-poll thread tell you the percentages? hfojvt Sep 2013 #146

No davidpdx Sep 2013 #147

No Hillary or any other corporate candidate! FUMCSDLCBDPOS Sep 2013 #148

I do not want her to be our candidate. Norrin Radd Sep 2013 #149

No sagat Sep 2013 #150

Just no. n/t mattclearing Sep 2013 #151

I will not vote for Hillary RandiFan1290 Sep 2013 #152

Not I. PeteSelman Sep 2013 #153

No JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #154

Yes GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #155

Not really. HappyMe Sep 2013 #156

To keep another Bush out of office, hell yes I'd vote for her! B Calm Sep 2013 #157

No, thank you. smokey nj Sep 2013 #158

That question covers two groups... JHB Sep 2013 #159

I don't nor her ideological fellow travelers. TheKentuckian Sep 2013 #160

No to Third Way/New Dem Coalition fredamae Sep 2013 #161

No. nt snappyturtle Sep 2013 #162

Golly! I'm guessing you all feel pretty good right now... brooklynite Sep 2013 #163

They must live in an alternative world where the majority of the country is liberal. Beacool Sep 2013 #168

HRC is not on my list of those I'm willing to support. nt LWolf Sep 2013 #164

This place is as sickening as a RW site when it comes to the Clintons. Beacool Sep 2013 #166

Even worse than sickening! Maybe even worse than FR. Auntie Bush Sep 2013 #172

No, the majority of Democrats don't think like that. Beacool Sep 2013 #175

YES, it is depressing and often too nasty for me to continue Auntie Bush Sep 2013 #178

I know what you mean, it's been like that ever since I joined in 2007. Beacool Sep 2013 #180

From one masochist to another. Auntie Bush Sep 2013 #181

I hear you. Beacool Sep 2013 #182

On the fence Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #167

NO. After all the racism of the 2008 primaries, I've had enough. AngryAmish Sep 2013 #169

After all the sexism of the 2008 primaries, so do her supporters. Beacool Sep 2013 #170

No Nite Owl Sep 2013 #173

No 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #174

No hedgehog Sep 2013 #176

No thank you. Myrina Sep 2013 #179

I don't. She is admirable in many ways, but she is too old, too conservative, and too tblue37 Oct 2013 #186

I would rather see Mrs. Warren. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #187