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Sun Dec 18, 2011, 04:23 PM

Dec 2011

Anyone serious about negotiation... negotiates down from the progressive single payer down to the more moderate publican option.. They don't claim to start with the public option then take it off the table.
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Ending The War In Iraq: How Obama's Own Rhetoric -- And George Bush's Pact -- Boxed In The President
Dan Froomkin
The Barack Obama of 2011 and the Barack Obama of 2008 don't always see eye to eye.

Typically the presidential vision has overruled the candidate's. (Extending the Bush tax cuts, supporting indefinite detention without trial and engaging in open-ended war in Afghanistan are a few examples.)

But in the case of the complete withdrawal of American troops from Iraq by the end of this year, candidate Obama prevailed over the president.

President Obama wanted to stay longer -- as recently as a few weeks ago asking the Iraqi government to allow 10,000, then 3,000 troops to remain past New Year's Eve.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/obama-iraq_n_1032507.html

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