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Uncle Joe

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26. How difficult do you believe it would be for the government to find out any name associated with
Sat Sep 28, 2013, 05:44 PM
Sep 2013

with an e-mail and then find any politically unsavory contents to be used for blackmail purposes from that sender of the e-mail or a connected family member, friend or close associate; business or otherwise.

Were Martin Luther King, Muhammed Ali, or Senators Frank Church and Howard Baker known terrorists?



http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014604213

Declassified NSA files show agency spied on Muhammad Ali and MLK...

The National Security Agency secretly tapped into the overseas phone calls of prominent critics of the Vietnam War, including Martin Luther King, Muhammad Ali and two actively serving US senators, newly declassified material has revealed.

The NSA has been forced to disclose previously secret passages in its own official four-volume history of its Cold War snooping activities. The newly-released material reveals the breathtaking – and probably illegal – lengths the agency went to in the late 1960s and 70s, in an attempt to try to hold back the rising tide of anti-Vietnam war sentiment.

That included tapping into the phone calls and cable communications of two serving senators – the Idaho Democrat Frank Church and Howard Baker, a Republican from Tennessee who, puzzlingly, was a firm supporter of the war effort in Vietnam. The NSA also intercepted the foreign communications of prominent journalists such as Tom Wicker of the New York Times and the popular satirical writer for the Washington Post, Art Buchwald.

Alongside King, a second leading civil rights figure, Whitney Young of the National Urban League, was also surreptitiously monitored. The heavyweight boxing champion, Muhammad Ali, was put on the watch list in about 1967 after he spoke out about Vietnam – he was jailed having refused to be drafted into the army, was stripped of his title, and banned from fighting – and is thought to have remained a target of surveillance for the next six years....





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This shit has got to stop gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1
I gotta agree. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #8
thanks gopiscrap Sep 2013 #60
K&R n/t hootinholler Sep 2013 #2
Move along, nothing to see here. DirkGently Sep 2013 #3
K and R nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #4
they love the internet They_Live Sep 2013 #5
For 300 millions US taxpayers, and their overseas acquaintances? Demeter Sep 2013 #6
What sucks the most is this is being done by a Dem government lark Sep 2013 #7
Which only make one wonder, how much farther will the Republicans push the surveillance state Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #13
Scary thought lark Sep 2013 #63
They don't see us as citizens Hydra Sep 2013 #10
Sure is an aweful lot of revelations regarding our snoop factory in the news lately. nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #9
There were a lot before Snowden Hydra Sep 2013 #11
According to the article, these individuals are related to legitimate foreign targets. randome Sep 2013 #12
+1 (nt) reACTIONary Sep 2013 #15
Gullible much? n-t Logical Sep 2013 #18
Give us some evidence. I'm sick and tired of all this vague implication crap. randome Sep 2013 #19
Please point out actual terror attacks prevented by the NSA spying. Not half ass plans that they.... Logical Sep 2013 #23
I have no idea what attacks they prevented. randome Sep 2013 #30
Like I said, Gullible much? n-t Logical Sep 2013 #42
You don't reflexively believe anything from the documents. morningfog Sep 2013 #25
The 'documents'? You mean Snowden's Powerpoint slides? randome Sep 2013 #29
There has been so much more released than the power points. morningfog Sep 2013 #35
Most of those documents make implications, nothing more. randome Sep 2013 #44
Agencies spying on and going after people like MLK and Abbie Hoffman come to mind. nt Incitatus Sep 2013 #50
They spied against two U.S. Senators as well. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #52
That's not what the article said. morningfog Sep 2013 #24
Why would they be 'interested' in a foreign individual if they weren't already under suspicion? randome Sep 2013 #31
You may very well be in that indirect chain. morningfog Sep 2013 #33
Email does not carry flags of citizenship. randome Sep 2013 #34
Of course they know. They admit they know the citizenship. morningfog Sep 2013 #37
Okay, I stand corrected. randome Sep 2013 #43
Then Kevin Bacon is screwed. n/t winter is coming Sep 2013 #56
They use Facebook? Knock me over with a feather. ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2013 #14
+1 (nt) reACTIONary Sep 2013 #16
They don't just use Facebook, they collect all the connections, that's the first step to becoming Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #20
No, it sounds like the first step toward investigating known associates of known terrorists. randome Sep 2013 #21
How difficult do you believe it would be for the government to find out any name associated with Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #26
Every single LE agency in the world has the potential for abuse. randome Sep 2013 #27
None of those laws or rules stopped those transgressions which I just posted and they were kept Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #36
Well, that was the 1970s. It's not hard to see that the NSA was abusing its authority then. randome Sep 2013 #39
Yes and this is the 2010s but people still make up the NSA just as they did in 1970s. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #45
No, it was something on one of the slides. Internal administrative checks and balances. randome Sep 2013 #48
So then this vast collection of Internet/Phone data goes to both parties, FBI and NSA? Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #49
So far as we know, only data that is pertinent to each agency's mission is handed over. randome Sep 2013 #51
What is the SGP? Furthermore, past history of spying against two U.S Senators Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #53
Snowden, Greenwald, Poitras. Sorry, guess I was trying to make that a meme. randome Sep 2013 #55
I admit all I have to go by is history and past performance along with Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #58
If you believe that one, I got about half a dozen bridges for you. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #38
So what do you think stops a LE agency from going off the rails? randome Sep 2013 #40
It sure ain't secret courts and secret oversight-or lack thereof. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #46
I doubt many will argue against less secrecy and more transparency. randome Sep 2013 #47
Go ahead, make light of the fact that they have compiled dossiers on virtually every American. Th1onein Sep 2013 #32
knr Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #17
I for one have 100% trust in our government to always do the thing as long as it is done in secret Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #22
That's more or less what Winston Churchill said without the secrecy part, no doubt the secrecy Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #28
They certainly have earned our trust. Octafish Sep 2013 #41
Thank you NSA. underthematrix Sep 2013 #54
Can The NSA Help Me With My Love Life? - Maybe That Would Be A Money Maker For The Government cantbeserious Sep 2013 #57
Whew, glad to hear there is no mass surveillance. Pholus Sep 2013 #59
So I guess you hate freedom. BlueCheese Sep 2013 #61
Horrible and disgusting. Complete surveillance state. chimpymustgo Sep 2013 #62
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