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In reply to the discussion: Head of Barilla pasta company: Gays can eat someone else’s pasta [View all]Emit
(11,239 posts)294. Why the Barilla Boycott Matters to Italian LGBT People
You might think that this is just another Chick-fil-A case in which LGBT activism becomes a simplistic decision about being for or against a corporation, as J. Bryan Lowder argued here yesterday. But there is more to this story: Since the controversy started in Italy and involves an Italian company, its really about the state of LGBT life in my home country. (...)
~snip~
To understand this response, you need to understand the larger state of gay rights in the country; this campaign is not only about the comments themselves. Regardless of what statistics say about the state of homophobia in Italy, there is a general feeling of exasperation among LGBT people there. Just a few days ago, the Parliament decided to respond to a rise in homophobic violence in the last years with an anti-homophobia law, but LGBT activists called it useless since it protects anti-gay speech within political, cultural and religious groups. The debate accompanying the law has been characterized by homophobic remarks from members of various political parties who continually spoke of a right not to like gays in terms of freedom of speech. So, when Guido Barilla shared his bigoted opinions, his comments became a casus belli to talk about how far the normalization of public homophobia can go.
But the real power of this boycotting campaign is that it has spread over the Italian borders due to the smart use of social media to attract wider European and international attention. While Guido Barilla might have naively thought he was merely in line with the spirit of the times in homophobic Italy, his comments sound even more misplaced in Barillas global market where many countries have laws that protect gay families. (...)
Now, if you are concerned that your boycott of Barilla in the U.S. or elsewhere wont have any effect, be assured that Italian politicians are already paying attention. During a political discussion in the Italian Parliament on the "Barilla case" yesterday, an MP from the Lega Party decided to provoke two openly gay MPs with a fennel bulb (finocchio is the Italian slang for faggot) and to try to physically assault one of them. I know this scene might sound surreal, but it is indicative of the state of affairs in Italy. In such a charged context, even a simple public boycott becomes a very political gesture.
In the end, this Barilla campaign is not really about the potentially minor impact of boycottingits about the possibility of protesting itself. And its about how an invisible minority of LGBT people is finally finding a way to speak for itself to a national and international audience. In a country where there are very few public intellectuals speaking for the LGBT community (and many scared just to come out), this feels grass-roots, this feels fresh. Even if it fades quickly, at least it gave us a chance to talk about the terrible situation of the gay people in Italyand for that, the campaign deserves your respect.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2013/09/27/barilla_pasta_boycott_in_italy_italian_lgbt_life_and_homophobia.html~snip~
To understand this response, you need to understand the larger state of gay rights in the country; this campaign is not only about the comments themselves. Regardless of what statistics say about the state of homophobia in Italy, there is a general feeling of exasperation among LGBT people there. Just a few days ago, the Parliament decided to respond to a rise in homophobic violence in the last years with an anti-homophobia law, but LGBT activists called it useless since it protects anti-gay speech within political, cultural and religious groups. The debate accompanying the law has been characterized by homophobic remarks from members of various political parties who continually spoke of a right not to like gays in terms of freedom of speech. So, when Guido Barilla shared his bigoted opinions, his comments became a casus belli to talk about how far the normalization of public homophobia can go.
But the real power of this boycotting campaign is that it has spread over the Italian borders due to the smart use of social media to attract wider European and international attention. While Guido Barilla might have naively thought he was merely in line with the spirit of the times in homophobic Italy, his comments sound even more misplaced in Barillas global market where many countries have laws that protect gay families. (...)
Now, if you are concerned that your boycott of Barilla in the U.S. or elsewhere wont have any effect, be assured that Italian politicians are already paying attention. During a political discussion in the Italian Parliament on the "Barilla case" yesterday, an MP from the Lega Party decided to provoke two openly gay MPs with a fennel bulb (finocchio is the Italian slang for faggot) and to try to physically assault one of them. I know this scene might sound surreal, but it is indicative of the state of affairs in Italy. In such a charged context, even a simple public boycott becomes a very political gesture.
In the end, this Barilla campaign is not really about the potentially minor impact of boycottingits about the possibility of protesting itself. And its about how an invisible minority of LGBT people is finally finding a way to speak for itself to a national and international audience. In a country where there are very few public intellectuals speaking for the LGBT community (and many scared just to come out), this feels grass-roots, this feels fresh. Even if it fades quickly, at least it gave us a chance to talk about the terrible situation of the gay people in Italyand for that, the campaign deserves your respect.
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Which is why "traditional family values" are bullshit no matter how one tries to split hairs.
nomorenomore08
Sep 2013
#176
Exactly. I'm sure we can expect Barilla ads to feature prominent lesbians though...
AleksS
Sep 2013
#265
Not just gay people, either--you don't have to be gay to reject that kind of bigoted shit. nt
MADem
Sep 2013
#68
"I simply wanted to highlight the central role of the woman in the family.” So wouldn't a family
Guy Whitey Corngood
Sep 2013
#9
It's already paid for though. Throwing it away rather than giving it to the needy or your chickens
cui bono
Sep 2013
#32
"I'm a sexist"? And wtf is "hurt the sensibilities of some people"? Idiot.
uppityperson
Sep 2013
#20
What an idiot..uh, there are so many pasta's on the market. He stands a good chance
Jefferson23
Sep 2013
#30
Do you cook, freeze, reheat? Freeze, thaw, cook? Or freeze and toss it in still frozen to cook?
ieoeja
Sep 2013
#80
Ronzoni, San Gorgio was what this Sicilian girl ate growing up. And Trader Joe's brand ain't bad.nt
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#197
Well Guido, this straight woman in a central role of her family isn't buying your product anymore.
msanthrope
Sep 2013
#35
I named their sauce Shitilla years ago as I thought it sucked but did buy their pasta.
RiffRandell
Sep 2013
#43
I regularly purchased their pasta for years for my carbonara, but not anymore.
bullwinkle428
Sep 2013
#51
I would suggest that you head to an Asian grocer and check out the fare there...
MADem
Sep 2013
#279
Bigots lack awareness, honesty, and integrity, and I stay away from them, and any enterprise
Zorra
Sep 2013
#63
Good!! because their pasta is garbage. Go eat Garafalo from Costco--you won't regret
Pretzel_Warrior
Sep 2013
#66
They think there aren't that many LGBT people but forget about their family and friends
coldmountain
Sep 2013
#82
Thanks for this thread! Not only do I want to boycott them for what they said, but....
Moonwalk
Sep 2013
#85
I am thinking intelligent open minded folk "can" eat someone elses pasta , as well
etherealtruth
Sep 2013
#92
That's exactly what I'm thinking! Plenty of other brands out there.
Dark n Stormy Knight
Sep 2013
#115
No problem Guido and thanks for the heads up, until this very moment we didn't know
louslobbs
Sep 2013
#95
Oh thank GOD!! A product I can actually BOYCOTT!! That's my favorite brand. Dammit.
DevonRex
Sep 2013
#100
Guess what, some straight people are going to eat someone else's pasta too.
AtheistCrusader
Sep 2013
#112
"Everyone is free to do what they want, provided it doesn’t bother anyone else.”
yesphan
Sep 2013
#123
As much as I've always enjoyed Barilla products, I will no longer buy them. I support no bigotry.
judesedit
Sep 2013
#142
I'll never buy from them again but can I send back what I have and ask for a refund?
IVoteDFL
Sep 2013
#147
I responded to this off their corporate site with the following points....
Swede Atlanta
Sep 2013
#161
I rarely buy pasta, but when I have I've never paid attention to the brand.
Gemini Cat
Sep 2013
#169
I called and told them this straight person won't be buying any more pasta from someone who
Squinch
Sep 2013
#179
I am a heterosexual and a former barilla pasta buyer. The barilla pasta on my counter
bluestate10
Sep 2013
#188
I called the company and got a message of a woman reading Guido's apology.
Gravitycollapse
Sep 2013
#213
thanks Guido, you douche.. we have a barilla plant nearby that employs a lot of people
dionysus
Sep 2013
#217
I'm not gay, but I will never eat their shit again, if, in fact I ever did.
lonestarnot
Sep 2013
#220
It's as if he doesn't know how easy it is to switch pasta brands and never look back.
Iggo
Sep 2013
#251
"Barilla said today that he meant no ill will toward LGBT people with his remarks..." Riiiiight.
yellowcanine
Sep 2013
#236
Lesbians are women. Was he highlighting them and their role in the family?
appleannie1
Sep 2013
#254
12 Best Responses To Barilla’s ‘I Would Not Do A Commercial With A Homosexual Family’
Emit
Sep 2013
#258
Barilla pasta has now joined Papa John's and Chick-fil-A on the list of...
SaveOurDemocracy
Sep 2013
#263
" In the interview I simply wanted to highlight the central role of the woman in the family."
tarheelsunc
Sep 2013
#264
I talked to my corner store guy and he's not going to caryy Barilla anymore.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2013
#275