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pinto

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33. No, yet I feel we need an independent oversight group to handle apportionment of Representatives.
Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:53 PM
Sep 2013

On a state by state basis. Here's the larger standard -

Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included within this union, according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. (Obviously this has been changed since the enactment of the original Constitution.)

The actual Enumeration shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in such manner as they shall by law direct. The number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty thousand, but each state shall have at least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the state of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articlei

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Yes we do shenmue Sep 2013 #1
Yeah, but good luck getting that to happen. Tidy Cat Sep 2013 #2
Right. Its inherently a state issue, elleng Sep 2013 #13
We need to end House districts. They aren't even in the Constitution. Recursion Sep 2013 #3
Well, how do we go about making that happen? MoonRiver Sep 2013 #5
And there's the problem. Districting is controlled entirely by state legislatures Recursion Sep 2013 #6
Ok, so that is what needs amending. MoonRiver Sep 2013 #12
As I said, good luck with that. Tidy Cat Sep 2013 #15
Then start a movement in each state treestar Sep 2013 #60
That is why I have been screaming for folks to get out and vote in state and local elections. kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #64
I'd be fine with just doing away with the House... Drunken Irishman Sep 2013 #36
Your understanding of our goverment is badly in error. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #43
There is an interesting underlying point there though mythology Sep 2013 #48
See my post # 51. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #52
They won more seats. They didn't win more votes. Drunken Irishman Sep 2013 #50
We are not a parliamentary system. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #51
And? Drunken Irishman Sep 2013 #58
We have made amendment, never a rewrite. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #59
I never said it would happen. Doesn't mean it shouldn't, tho. Drunken Irishman Sep 2013 #70
The best solution would be proportionally appointed reps Blaukraut Sep 2013 #4
I like the "party slate" idea Recursion Sep 2013 #9
...but then people get upset about "the Party Bosses"... brooklynite Sep 2013 #17
And about 95% of the world's democracies seem fine with the idea (nt) Recursion Sep 2013 #49
Proportional is the way to go. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #26
100% needed but how? Freddie Sep 2013 #7
Districts are mentioned nowhere in the Constitution Recursion Sep 2013 #11
The apportionment of Representatives per State is, though. pinto Sep 2013 #30
OK, but how do we enforce it? Savannahmann Sep 2013 #8
There's a variety of ways jeff47 Sep 2013 #23
Representation by County PADemD Sep 2013 #37
First the Constitutional issue. Savannahmann Sep 2013 #40
Yes, yes yes. Cleita Sep 2013 #10
There already is one - it's called the 14th Amendment jberryhill Sep 2013 #14
Good idea. With computerization, gerrymandering effects are worse than ever. JEFF9K Sep 2013 #16
Somebody has to do something. MadrasT Sep 2013 #18
Lol... jberryhill Sep 2013 #28
Racking my brains to come up with something a constituent in Upper Darby MadrasT Sep 2013 #55
Yes, but you have no change of getting one. Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2013 #19
This would need to pass in the very state legislatures that ... surrealAmerican Sep 2013 #20
I don't believe it's necessary. Blanks Sep 2013 #21
"One man, one vote" was enforced by Supreme Court decision starroute Sep 2013 #22
gerrymandering is a problem but not the only one dsc Sep 2013 #24
No. We need to shoot every single Republicans who *THINKS* gerrymandering is a wonderful idea. Old Navy Sep 2013 #25
Isn't gerrymandering a positive for minority representation? dkf Sep 2013 #27
If you like being held hostage by the minority, which Cleita Sep 2013 #29
What does the CBC say? dkf Sep 2013 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author MoonRiver Sep 2013 #32
I don't know. I suspect they are fine with it. Cleita Sep 2013 #34
No, yet I feel we need an independent oversight group to handle apportionment of Representatives. pinto Sep 2013 #33
Politicians will never write a law Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #35
It wouldn't work. There is no clear cut line on what is and what isn't gerrymandering. JVS Sep 2013 #38
No. It's a political process and "gerrymandering" is very subjective RB TexLa Sep 2013 #39
opening a constitutional convention would be very dangerous. grasswire Sep 2013 #41
Maybe - but shouldn't we gerrymander it back first? Whiskeytide Sep 2013 #42
Just a reminder, Democrats have gerrymandered too. GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #44
I don't think it is right for either party to do it. MoonRiver Sep 2013 #45
Agreed, but in your OP you blamed only the Republicans. N/T GreenStormCloud Sep 2013 #46
That's the big issue right now. MoonRiver Sep 2013 #47
K&R cprise Sep 2013 #53
I don't know davidpdx Sep 2013 #54
We'd need 50 state battles as well. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #56
You Beat Them At Their Own Game...On The State & Local Level... KharmaTrain Sep 2013 #57
k&r...it's a blatant manipulation of voters will. spanone Sep 2013 #61
If we could get such an amendment ratified we wouldn't need such an amendment onenote Sep 2013 #62
I would love if we could do it. gopiscrap Sep 2013 #63
How about a constitutional amendment to end Republicans? kentauros Sep 2013 #65
the entire thing desperately needs an overhaul ecstatic Sep 2013 #66
I can't imagine how such an amendment could be worded, without becoming meaningless pablum struggle4progress Sep 2013 #67
Let's have one. lonestarnot Sep 2013 #68
Set up federal control over election to federal offices. The States can kiranon Sep 2013 #69
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