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In reply to the discussion: This is a time of shame and sorrow. It is not a day for politics. [View all]NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)103. RFK was a visionary, he was transcendent, the best of that generation. Standing on a flat-bed truck
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During his speeches at Notre Dame and Ball State, Kennedy focused on domestic issues, the Vietnam War, and racism. At Notre Dame's Stepan Center, a crowd of approximately 5,000 heard Kennedy speak on poverty in America and the need for better-paying jobs. When asked about draft laws, Kennedy called them "unjust and inequitable" and argued to end college deferments on the basis that they discriminated against those who could not afford a college education. His speech at Ball State was well received by more than 9,000 students, faculty, and community members. One African-American student raised a question to Kennedy that seems almost a premonition of the speech to come later that night after the horrific events of the day. The student asked, Your speech implies that you are placing a great deal of faith in white America. Is that faith justified? Kennedy answered Yes and added that faith in black America is justified, too although he said there are extremists on both sides. Before boarding a plane to fly to Indianapolis, Kennedy learned that Martin Luther King, Jr. had been shot. On the plane, Kennedy told a reporter "You know, it grieves me. . . that I just told that kid this and then walk out and find that some white man has just shot their spiritual leader."[8] Kennedy did not learn that King was dead until his plane landed in Indianapolis. According to reporter John J. Lindsay, Kennedy "seemed to shrink back as though struck physically" and put his hands to his face, saying "Oh, God. When is this violence going to stop?"
In Indianapolis the news of King's death caused concern among representatives from Kennedy's campaign and city officials, who feared for his safety and the possibility of a riot. After talking with reporters at the Indianapolis airport, Kennedy canceled a stop at his campaign headquarters and continued on to the rally site, where a crowd had gathered to hear him speak. Both Frank Mankiewicz, Kennedy's press secretary, and speechwriter Adam Walinsky drafted notes immediately before the rally for Kennedy's use, but Kennedy refused Walinsky's notes, instead using some that he had likely written on the ride over; Mankiewicz arrived after Kennedy had already begun to speak. The Indianapolis chief of police warned Kennedy that the police could not provide adequate protection for the senator if the crowd were to riot, but Kennedy decided to go speak to the crowd regardless. Standing on a podium mounted on flatbed truck, Kennedy spoke for just four minutes and fifty-seven seconds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy%27s_speech_on_the_assassination_of_Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.#Earlier_that_day
In Indianapolis the news of King's death caused concern among representatives from Kennedy's campaign and city officials, who feared for his safety and the possibility of a riot. After talking with reporters at the Indianapolis airport, Kennedy canceled a stop at his campaign headquarters and continued on to the rally site, where a crowd had gathered to hear him speak. Both Frank Mankiewicz, Kennedy's press secretary, and speechwriter Adam Walinsky drafted notes immediately before the rally for Kennedy's use, but Kennedy refused Walinsky's notes, instead using some that he had likely written on the ride over; Mankiewicz arrived after Kennedy had already begun to speak. The Indianapolis chief of police warned Kennedy that the police could not provide adequate protection for the senator if the crowd were to riot, but Kennedy decided to go speak to the crowd regardless. Standing on a podium mounted on flatbed truck, Kennedy spoke for just four minutes and fifty-seven seconds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy%27s_speech_on_the_assassination_of_Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.#Earlier_that_day
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I miss Bobby Kennedy more than Martin or John. He was the hope my generation held so closely.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#15
I was only twelve years old, but I did get to see him on his tour through California.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#93
Agreed, calimary. What is it about our culture that makes people want to be so violent.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#18
No argument here. We owe it to our children to consider every possible cause of violent behavior.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#8
Correlation does not imply causation. More violence is perpetrated by men, who are raised
jtuck004
Sep 2013
#9
This is a very interesting topic. I agree that more research on it needs to be done.
totodeinhere
Sep 2013
#83
The study cited in your article is interesting, makes me wonder about a solution...
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#115
Bobby Kennedy was particularly skillful in building consensus and staying on point.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#12
And using a picture of the kids in Newtown, to make an anti-gun control point, apparently.
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2013
#37
Are you going to answer Robb's point? About, say, the shotun thread 2 days after Newtown?
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2013
#40
You copied the OP except for the references to gun control, which you removed as "unnecessary"
Warren DeMontague
Sep 2013
#57
Your selective editing is political, in addition to being disgusting and dishonest. nt
Electric Monk
Sep 2013
#21
" Surely, this bond of common faith, this bond of common goal, can begin to teach us something."
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#46
Sadly, that does not seem to be the issue tonight. I've got better things to do. (Warning: Kitteh!)
freshwest
Sep 2013
#79
Anyone can read the original, even if not logged in. Only gun nuts are blocked from replying there.
Electric Monk
Sep 2013
#34
I followed the link and find the situation very puzzling and disturbing. Totally unexpected.
IrishAyes
Sep 2013
#32
Take full note that my compliment has been withdrawn as the hypocrisy of your behavior
IrishAyes
Sep 2013
#112
Edit the OP, with credit and show his OP in a different font than your additions. No problem then.
freshwest
Sep 2013
#51
Allow me to add this additional section which certainly applies to our current society:
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#70
I'm seeing one link that does not show that; it appears to be valid; is there a full transcript.
freshwest
Sep 2013
#80
Adding Audio Clip and Transcript: In his own words, "On the Mindless Menace of Violence in America.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#76
Yes, thanks. The general well being of our nation is at stake here. K&R
Tuesday Afternoon
Sep 2013
#77
Possibly, you're thinking of the Indianapolis speech he gave on the day of the assassination.
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#84
RFK was a visionary, he was transcendent, the best of that generation. Standing on a flat-bed truck
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#103
Violence Has Killed Society In America - The Road To Redemption Will Be Difficult At Best
cantbeserious
Sep 2013
#85
New measures that would include more restrictions on the ownership of deadly weapons...
YoungDemCA
Sep 2013
#90
What you've done is get your licks in and then tell others to shut up and swallow it.
IrishAyes
Sep 2013
#111
President Clinton: Speech at the 25th Anniversary Memorial Mass for Robert F. Kennedy (June 6, 1993)
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#98
REMARKABLE: "Landmark for Peace Memorial", Indianapolis, on site of RFK's speech"
NYC_SKP
Sep 2013
#113