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47. Ladies and gentlemen, start your engines!

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Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:27 AM

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A whole lot of people will be hurt if the Dems don't give in to the Republican demands. [View all] Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 OP

Furthermore, ANY negotiation would just embolden the tblue37 Sep 2013 #1

Eggzackly. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #2

I lost a dear friend 2 years ago because she didn't have health insurance mountain grammy Sep 2013 #6

Maybe I channeled her. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #7

Ha, ha! Believe me, if she was in your head, you'd know it! mountain grammy Sep 2013 #12

Very sorry for your loss. MoonRiver Sep 2013 #30

That's it in a nutshell. There comes a time when you have to plant your feet and push back. Arkansas Granny Sep 2013 #3

I like to say that if you let the camel get his nose into the tent, tblue37 Sep 2013 #5

Guess what day it is?? tavernier Sep 2013 #11

It's Monday. Go home, Camel, you're drunk. ieoeja Sep 2013 #27

Ah, yes, camel snot. pangaia Sep 2013 #102

In all honesty, it was time for POTUS to plant feet & push back 2+ years ago. Myrina Sep 2013 #8

He didn't see the point in pushing back Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #19

Ssssh!! Myrina Sep 2013 #26

Sheesh-I forgot the down-staircase of events that can follow Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #34

ROFL Myrina Sep 2013 #36

Brilliant! Divernan Sep 2013 #37

I cannot abide Enthusiast Sep 2013 #66

Wisconsin Represent! RetroLounge Sep 2013 #92

heh. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #29

ITA JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #21

Yep. And they are only extending funding for a few months n2doc Sep 2013 #4

Yes. Good policy cannot come from today's Congress... Orsino Sep 2013 #9

Where is President Obama on all this? Octafish Sep 2013 #10

+1 He should consider the Syria reaction! leftstreet Sep 2013 #15

Why? jeff47 Sep 2013 #28

Why? Those who don't already understand won't listen. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #31

Where is President Obama on all this? IrishAyes Sep 2013 #43

thank you Schema Thing Sep 2013 #57

Sorry, I must not watch as much tee vee as I should. Octafish Sep 2013 #63

"My question was intended to help spark a presidential address to the nation." snooper2 Sep 2013 #68

President Obama is letting the pukes frame the debate, again. Octafish Sep 2013 #71

No he isn't, but I think you know that snooper2 Sep 2013 #72

How profound. Octafish Sep 2013 #73

You hardly need to own a tv in order to be aware of all the public relations IrishAyes Sep 2013 #78

Disingenuous? Like the time I promised to veto everything but single-payer? Octafish Sep 2013 #79

I agree with IrishAyes Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #82

Well, I posted originally at 10:15 this morning before the address was announced. Octafish Sep 2013 #85

Everything POSSIBLE has been done; if you want to carp about what remains, IrishAyes Sep 2013 #83

Too bad. So sad. Octafish Sep 2013 #86

Your putting your responsibilty of being Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #91

It's been five years. I don't have my hopes up for much change. Octafish Sep 2013 #94

History will prove you Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #96

Show where I am wrong and I will apologize for making a mistake. Otherwise, don't call me a liar. Octafish Sep 2013 #99

Show me where I posted something that was not true. Octafish Sep 2013 #97

So true! Isoldeblue Sep 2013 #88

I just got an email from him. Blanks Sep 2013 #51

He's letting the GOP put their foot in it and take the blame. Smart move, IMO. MADem Sep 2013 #54

Prez: Government Shutdown Won’t Stop Obamacare muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #62

Nothing comes of caving in to extortionists The Wizard Sep 2013 #70

Correct. Look at this poll LittleBlue Sep 2013 #64

Talking About Obamacare: Does Policy Debate Matter? Octafish Sep 2013 #74

He made the case. Happy now? Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #89

Expecting rich people in government to do what's right and good for the people??? L0oniX Sep 2013 #13

Blackmailers never stop. Give in on this debt blackmail & get blackmailed on the next debt round. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #14

Exactly. We have to hold firm. Shrike47 Sep 2013 #22

"You're going to shut down the government if you can't prevent ..... marble falls Sep 2013 #16

We are told that our President is an excellent speaker. Why can't he speak like this one? AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #17

Because if he gave a speech, it would make the issue about him. jeff47 Sep 2013 #32

Did Ike's speech make the situation about him? Doctor_J Sep 2013 #103

Did Ike's speech fix anything? jeff47 Sep 2013 #105

President Obama speaks as well if not better. You're just not listening. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #45

These are not the 50's anymore erronis Sep 2013 #95

I'd rather the republican terrorists hold me hostage than be allowed to do further damage my country Zorra Sep 2013 #18

Nope - no negotiating with terrorists. Avalux Sep 2013 #20

Actually a lot of billionaires will be hurt. BlueStreak Sep 2013 #23

Indeed. Krugman's "Rebels Without a Clue" column in today's NYT makes that point precisely. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #25

Maybe, Harry Reid has been storing dry powder like a Sam Houston HereSince1628 Sep 2013 #24

That would be sweet. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #46

National Policy WovenGems Sep 2013 #33

Time to hammer back against the Far Right. They won't compromise. Run 'em down. Eleanors38 Sep 2013 #35

Ladies and gentlemen, start your engines! IrishAyes Sep 2013 #47

You NEVER negotiate with people who think "What's mine is mine, but what's your's is negotiable". n/ ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #38

That's my dog's attitude about his treats & my ham sandwich. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #49

My basset's attitude, too. ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #55

We have got to stop giving the bully what he wants because it only encourages him to continue the jwirr Sep 2013 #39

Yes, and I hope there is no compromise on this one... But IrishAyes Sep 2013 #40

We must demand the GOP's unconditional surrender on this. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #41

The GOP is following the diaster capitalism playbook to the letter. greatlaurel Sep 2013 #42

You're singing to the choir as far as I'm concerned. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #50

Yep, this is a textbook example of creating a "crisis" to enact policies that everyone hates. arcane1 Sep 2013 #53

Like Businessweek said, "It's like a vaccination" fadedrose Sep 2013 #44

Agreed. K&R closeupready Sep 2013 #48

I predict.... kentuck Sep 2013 #52

Wouldn't surprise me. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #58

How we must react to republican threats. History............ wandy Sep 2013 #56

I'm surprised the Republicans haven't been using threats of guns.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #59

Wow, that brings an image to mind. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #61

The only question is if they'll have any ammo left by the time they get to DC.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #67

Well said, thank you! MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #60

I think it's a pre-ordained kabuki ruse. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #65

My problem with this OP is you framed it as the Dem's choice/responsibility. cui bono Sep 2013 #69

+1 SunSeeker Sep 2013 #75

Thank you. Cha Sep 2013 #81

+1. pacalo Sep 2013 #90

the republicans are holding the american public hostage until they get their demands. spanone Sep 2013 #76

We must look pretty stupid and weak to the rest of the world... glinda Sep 2013 #77

Seems to me like a first major fight between the haves Phlem Sep 2013 #80

And people need to understand that it is the GOP and ONLY the GOP Rex Sep 2013 #84

I will be furloughed (again) because of this shutdown. Drahthaardogs Sep 2013 #87

Maybe we should see a deal before we hate it? michigandem58 Sep 2013 #93

A deal from Republiscams? Phlem Sep 2013 #104

The DEMS will cave. The GOPee keeps them on a short leash. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #98

Well, let's hope not. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #100

bullshit. no one is going to die if they dont comprimise bowens43 Sep 2013 #101

I trust/have faith that President Obama will stand our ground against the Re/Teapuke thugs!! hue Oct 2013 #106

Let's hope so, anyway. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #107