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Nuclear Unicorn

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32. You said, quite explicitly
Mon Sep 30, 2013, 11:00 PM
Sep 2013
I wonder ,,,,

how many of these civilian gov workers ot be furloughed are located around all the Military bases in the Super Red Southern States?

How much pay will they have to lose before they regret being a tea bagger!?!


Now, unless I miss my mark you're saying the furloughed workers will resent the GOP-induced government shutdown because it will cost them financially and their ire ought to be aimed at the GOP. So far so good but it does have an inherent flaw which I point out.

I posited that a permanent job loss due to permanent military cutbacks -- as are current Democratic policy -- will engender just as much resentment, if not more. To wit I rhetorically asked --

So what would make permanent cuts better than a temporary furlough?


You replied --

It better for the employee, furlough takes away the Promise and expectation of work and pay , leaving the employee not knowing what to expect. Permanent Cuts leave no doubt with the employee (or former employee )as to where they stand.


Now, if that isn't an endorsement of permanent job loss over temporary furlough, I don't know what is.

You may claim your objective isn't to win over "teabaggers that work around military bases in the southern Red states" but I'm left to wonder what is the political utility in making them hate the Democratic party MORE than the GOP. No one likes a permanent job loss over a temporary furlough (probably with back pay) and if the military cutbacks occur whatever pain they felt during the furloughs will be displaced by this greater pain. Ergo the entire premise of your initial reply that they will resent the GOP more than President Obama and the Democratic party (assuming cuts are made) is faulty.

The insulting part is post #18 where you boldly assert the certainty of jobless is better than some temporary uncertainty engendered in a furlough. Do you really expect me to believe such silliness? Tell me you were just joking and all shall be forgiven.

BTW -- if civility is such a thing with you why use terms like "teabaggers ... in the southern ... states"? Do you carry some sort of prejudice about people in southern states that makes you assume they must be teabaggers? It'd make for a poor campaign poster next year, that's for sure.

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Napkin math... whttevrr Sep 2013 #1
2.1 billion. lonestarnot Sep 2013 #5
It's napkin math... whttevrr Sep 2013 #9
Thank you for highlighting this yanking of Americans' paychecks, by these members of Congress who Cha Sep 2013 #2
This part sucks... whttevrr Sep 2013 #13
I wonder ,,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #3
I dunno but is that a cautionary tale against permanent military cutbacks? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #7
No Cryptoad Sep 2013 #16
So what would make permanent cuts better than a temporary furlough? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #17
It better for the employee, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #18
Double-plus good! Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #19
No need for a personal attack Cryptoad Sep 2013 #20
I was attacking your opinion, not you. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #21
By being Rude and condescending ? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #22
Well, if you must know -- Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #23
What about my answer insulted your intelligence? Cryptoad Sep 2013 #25
The entire premise. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #27
The premise that teabaggers that work around Cryptoad Sep 2013 #28
No, the premise that they'll more readily accept permanent job loss over temporary furlough. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #30
I said nothing of the sorts Cryptoad Sep 2013 #31
You said, quite explicitly Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #32
You missed you mark,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2013 #33
Please expound upon your comment in post #18 Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #37
Nah,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2013 #38
but I'm quoting you verbatim, at length, and asking you to explain Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #39
CNN? Analysis? GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #4
Is there something specific in the numbers that you refute? whttevrr Sep 2013 #8
Another WTF moment polynomial Sep 2013 #6
Um, "new liberal idea" of shutting down the government? truebluegreen Sep 2013 #14
Not to descend into anecdote, but I won't just be furloughed. I'll lose my malaria vaccine Recursion Sep 2013 #10
That's sad... whttevrr Sep 2013 #11
Numbers from another source: whttevrr Sep 2013 #12
The District of Columbia will also be shut down, klyon Sep 2013 #15
The also spit on all of the businesses those people support. gulliver Sep 2013 #24
bunch of fucking assholes. gopiscrap Sep 2013 #26
This is considered a positive for the repukes; it CAG Sep 2013 #29
General Discussion mutian Oct 2013 #34
and it's costing the government more than if they let the government run. STUPID SOB's B Calm Oct 2013 #35
A friend got her furlough notice yesterday spinbaby Oct 2013 #36
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