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wyldwolf

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117. As a veteran of the inter-party wars on DU, I'll give you one thing...

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 08:58 AM

Oct 2013

"The bottom line is nothing is going to change unless liberals grow a set of balls, organize like the tea party, and get real fighters elected who will change the entire national dialogue."

THAT has always been my advice/concern/gripe regarding the progressive movement. While the DLC and other centrist groups are ostracized, the progressive movement has thus far failed to organize in any meaningful way to counter centrists in the Dem party and take the fight to the Repugs.

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The Joke is on Liberals [View all] Phillyindy Oct 2013 OP

Uh huh. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #1

I second that Uh huh and motion for a Rex Oct 2013 #3

+2 pinboy3niner Oct 2013 #9

+3 LiberalLoner Oct 2013 #116

+4 L0oniX Oct 2013 #159

So, what are YOU going to do? Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2013 #2

Oh I'm sorry, did the liberal kill your pony? Rex Oct 2013 #4

Well, now we know what handle Karl Rove posts under Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #5

haha someone just alerted on your post Hutzpa Oct 2013 #35

Lol, wasn't me. I think these alerts a absurd. Phillyindy Oct 2013 #39

Lol. Thanks for the heads up Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #43

DU drives me crazy with this stuff too Phillyindy Oct 2013 #54

This is why I have never participated in a jury or alerted on anyone. Walk away Oct 2013 #154

Well, a I-5 leave would indicate that it is allowed. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #164

Good point Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #165

Juror #4 nailed this one. Laelth Oct 2013 #110

+1 cyberswede Oct 2013 #142

We may still see another yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #6

Agree Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #104

I Believe That You Are Most Likely Correct. Though I Hope You Are Incorrect. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #7

I Believe RobinA Oct 2013 #115

You forgot about the third (& most important) group of Republicans: the corporate benefactors. pacalo Oct 2013 #8

Nate Silver has recently said... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #10

That was before the current bullshit. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #12

Do I need to run through... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #18

And you don't think it will energize anyone else. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #23

You're fighting, I just... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #29

You forget 2006 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #48

That we agree on... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #55

And even the threat of a default is even worse. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #97

+1. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #112

+1 LiberalLoner Oct 2013 #114

That wasn't all that recent--that was three or four months ago. MADem Oct 2013 #25

If bet what I said happens. Phillyindy Oct 2013 #30

Not sure what you're trying to say, but don't bet the farm. MADem Oct 2013 #84

That the repubs hold congress? Book it. Phillyindy Oct 2013 #86

They don't "have" Congress. They have the House, and that's hardly a dramatic prediction. MADem Oct 2013 #88

Oh, please! The democrats DO have balls. Obama, Reid, etc have NOT caved. Tx4obama Oct 2013 #11

Lol, you must be under 40... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #13

... Rex Oct 2013 #17

You are wrong once again. I am over 50. n/t Tx4obama Oct 2013 #19

Looks like a meltdown, funny just watched another one take place. Rex Oct 2013 #21

Where was the other one? :) Tx4obama Oct 2013 #22

Started off well. Rex Oct 2013 #24

You must be under twenty--remember how well that last foot-stomping government shut down worked MADem Oct 2013 #28

Yup... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #33

..so a friend from high school posts on Facebook OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #50

The bubble is impenetrable. Phillyindy Oct 2013 #58

The only one I've encountered today, living in one of those bubbles, is you, I fear. MADem Oct 2013 #68

Did you actually read... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #71

I read it quite carefully. Your content as well as your tone are problematic. MADem Oct 2013 #83

Well we could do this all night... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #85

I don't think you did a very good job of selling your point. MADem Oct 2013 #188

"Your content as well as your tone are problematic." go west young man Oct 2013 #174

Well, a couple of points in response to your attempted put-down of me. MADem Oct 2013 #186

Cool story bro...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #77

This isn't 1960. The Soviet Union is gone and China is liberalizing. pnwmom Oct 2013 #124

Obama is a moderate liberal? Phillyindy Oct 2013 #146

Yes, of course I'm defining it by today's standards. Liberal, moderate, and conservative pnwmom Oct 2013 #152

That's your problem... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #155

I said he was moderate-liberal. pnwmom Oct 2013 #163

This post stinks like three day old fish. MADem Oct 2013 #14

All I can say is... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #26

This is only "truth" if you're a GOP operative, sorry. And we know how "truthy" those assholes are. MADem Oct 2013 #32

Some advice for you in return... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #37

You are wrong about the expression grow a pair of balls. cui bono Oct 2013 #65

I don't see it as much... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #80

Why do you think they started making dolls of different races and ethnicities? cui bono Oct 2013 #92

Does the same apply to the N-word? LanternWaste Oct 2013 #131

Lol...yeah... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #156

I bet youre totally cool with calling someone a pussy too. bunnies Oct 2013 #137

Your acting like a wang.. go west young man Oct 2013 #171

Do tell. bunnies Oct 2013 #172

No, I'm not wrong on this score--you are. You're out of step with the 21st Century and progressive MADem Oct 2013 #70

Lol, wow Phillyindy Oct 2013 #73

"out of step". bunnies Oct 2013 #138

I'm endeavoring to remain restrained. MADem Oct 2013 #153

And youre doing a damn good job. bunnies Oct 2013 #157

Why thank you.... nt MADem Oct 2013 #158

Less truth and more prophecy. LanternWaste Oct 2013 #129

The OP profile is interesting Kennah Oct 2013 #36

Lol, more bizarre paranoia. Phillyindy Oct 2013 #40

Announcements??? There is an Announcements group? Walk away Oct 2013 #162

It was announced Kennah Oct 2013 #169

I missed it...nt Walk away Oct 2013 #184

The joke is on conservatives. Chan790 Oct 2013 #15

+1 Qutzupalotl Oct 2013 #69

By every right, eight years of Geo. W should have neutered the GOP for quite some time 1000words Oct 2013 #16

Agreed, and when Obama... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #27

What world are you in? ProSense Oct 2013 #31

Now now! Don't be a Debbie Downer! Rex Oct 2013 #34

If you think 7%... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #41

Maybe ProSense Oct 2013 #45

Maybe... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #51

You ProSense Oct 2013 #56

McCain... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #59

WTF? n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #61

Wowsers indeed alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #106

I'm stuck on this guy thinking JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #177

That IS bizarre... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #182

Then you admit JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #185

Also ProSense Oct 2013 #47

Like I said, laugh at your own risk. Phillyindy Oct 2013 #53

There is absolutely no "risk" in laughing at Ted Cruz ProSense Oct 2013 #57

You are the person I wrote this op for Phillyindy Oct 2013 #60

Don't blame your passion for Sarah and Ted on me. ProSense Oct 2013 #67

Sometimes Egnever Oct 2013 #62

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #100

the world of deep and profound concern. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #76

best post in ths thread noiretextatique Oct 2013 #180

Perhaps some useful information: 1000words Oct 2013 #49

I hear you, although... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #63

Good for you. go west young man Oct 2013 #173

My guess is... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #183

This message was self-deleted by its author truebluegreen Oct 2013 #98

Yep. DireStrike Oct 2013 #181

Agreed. We should have shut down over gun control apples and oranges Oct 2013 #20

Welcome to DU, since 309 of your 359 posts have been in the last 90 days Kennah Oct 2013 #38

Thanks? Phillyindy Oct 2013 #42

He's been busy at Occupy rallies, but not singing Kumbaya. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #121

He definitely quacks like a ReThug Kennah Oct 2013 #170

I do not agree with you, but DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #44

Demographics suggested they'd retake the Senate in 2012 OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #46

grow a set of balls? Skittles Oct 2013 #52

Uggggggg Phillyindy Oct 2013 #66

yeah uggggggg is right Skittles Oct 2013 #91

The projection is strong with this one. Rex Oct 2013 #139

aw I know Skittles Oct 2013 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #64

I know. This could be as big a GOP victory as the last shutdown. Or the Clinton impeachment! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #72

And how would you say... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #74

Do you remember the last government shutdown? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #75

. cyberswede Oct 2013 #144

Thank you for your concern. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #78

Makes me long for the days of unrec...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #79

LOL B Calm Oct 2013 #81

Celebrating the absurdity of the teapublicans at the expense of America isn't our shining moment. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #82

Where do I trash the thread? DocMac Oct 2013 #87

Literally move the OP to the trash can in your own account? Or join in the fracas? Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #89

It's in the OP. I'm going there, first. You'll have to wait. Th1onein Oct 2013 #94

I gave u a rec so I could unrec the thread ;) Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #90

Phil should go away until next groundhog day Kolesar Oct 2013 #101

As much as I hope you are wrong.. sendero Oct 2013 #93

Even Progressives can be guilty of seeing what they want to see. randome Oct 2013 #95

LOL: Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it! FSogol Oct 2013 #96

You are assuming they are paying attention in the first place. Rex Oct 2013 #143

Those people would never vote for Democrats anyway gollygee Oct 2013 #99

but you forget one thing notadmblnd Oct 2013 #102

You had me until the last two paragraphs. Hayabusa Oct 2013 #103

Liberals need to.. Phillyindy Oct 2013 #147

We don't need no stinking liberals! L0oniX Oct 2013 #160

I believe your on the money. go west young man Oct 2013 #175

I live in a red congressional district... TroglodyteScholar Oct 2013 #105

They'll still vote red Phillyindy Oct 2013 #148

I give this a rec Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #107

Lol, my reputation? Phillyindy Oct 2013 #149

There is NO joke about the current situation. Not at all. BlueMTexpat Oct 2013 #108

Your last sentence... Phillyindy Oct 2013 #150

This OP remind me of Charlie Sheen who kept saying 'I'm winning' as he Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #109

+1 JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #179

Now, where did that UNREC button go? Laelth Oct 2013 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author Liberalynn Oct 2013 #113

As a veteran of the inter-party wars on DU, I'll give you one thing... wyldwolf Oct 2013 #117

Why do you have to do all that when you can sit around and complain on a liberal message board? 6000eliot Oct 2013 #119

there is some truth to what you say but.. wyldwolf Oct 2013 #120

You forgot the tea party nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #122

Actually I mentioned them in my last reply wyldwolf Oct 2013 #123

And dfa was formed by whom? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #126

I'm not arguing THAT point at all wyldwolf Oct 2013 #127

It takes money, lots of it nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #133

Nadin, when you say "solved" do you mean LiberalLoner Oct 2013 #132

As long as inverted totalitarianism works nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #134

Thank you. I keep thinking this can't go on without an explosion but LiberalLoner Oct 2013 #135

We can't "like" posts anymore? 6000eliot Oct 2013 #125

Whaddaya think DU is - Facebook? :) wyldwolf Oct 2013 #128

LOL L0oniX Oct 2013 #161

Poll Indicates GOP Has Been Deeply Damaged By Shutdown Fight ProSense Oct 2013 #118

+10000000 JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #130

With this kind of political analysis in the face of all evidence otherwise... stevenleser Oct 2013 #136

You and the GOP are trying to tell us their collapsing support is just a flesh wound stevenleser Oct 2013 #140

You are confused Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #141

Putting a few Bush criminals on trial would do a lot to restore the entire country Corruption Inc Oct 2013 #145

True ann--- Oct 2013 #151

Nothing's going to change unless people get off their ass and vote D in the midterms. -nt CakeGrrl Oct 2013 #166

Pssst!!!! Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #167

the difference is more fundamental Stinky The Clown Oct 2013 #176

Ted Cruz JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #178

A gift for you... SomethingFishy Oct 2013 #187

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