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Plucketeer

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59. I hope they DO "hold the line"

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:23 AM

Oct 2013

but the way I see it is that we're at this junction because it's worked for the GOP before. As much as I applaud the Dems taking a stand, there's recent incidents like Reid's "secret handshake" with McConnell and other jackass surrenders. Keep your powder dry, cause the real battle's yet to be fought here.
In fact, the ACA may well not be the real aim of this exercise. It's maybe just a convenient stepping stone to other concessions. Maybe there are some GOP loons that think they can derail this program, but you can bet the veterans know different - even ones like Bachmann and Ghomert and the like.
Don't get me wrong - I'd be giddy if this were to rent the GOP's sails and put a hole in their hull. But there's SO much money out there and SO much stupid to draw strength from. I'm gonna hold off on celebrating just yet.

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I am very proud of President Obama and the Senate Democrats today. [View all] WilliamPitt Sep 2013 OP

I agree. RetroLounge Sep 2013 #1

I'll see you all those men, and raise you a Bette Davis. nt msanthrope Sep 2013 #2

Agreed, I am often critical of the party because they cave so often Bjorn Against Sep 2013 #3

+1 Zorra Sep 2013 #4

Thanks for the goosebumps, dude. 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #5

red line you can get behind? joshcryer Sep 2013 #6

Manchin makes me ashamed to be a West Virginia Democrat appacom Sep 2013 #7

But even Manchin said he would not vote to shut the govt down over the ACA. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #17

When did he make that statement? The last I heard from him... DonViejo Sep 2013 #32

September 26, on his Senate website. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #45

maybe he had a West By God Viginia ephiphany! Mopar151 Oct 2013 #67

Maybe Harry Reid took him aside and had some choice words for him because I see he wised up Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #37

The longer the Republicans hold out, the longer they are facilitating a negative media storm pacalo Sep 2013 #8

I "hope" they continue to play with their new toy for a couple of weeks truebluegreen Sep 2013 #39

I'm watching (the nutty) Professor Sessions schooling the Senate on why a bill that's law pacalo Sep 2013 #40

You have a stronger stomach than I do... truebluegreen Sep 2013 #41

I think they live in a bubble, listening only to those constituents who ignorantly vote for them. pacalo Sep 2013 #47

I would love to see cheerleaders FarPoint Sep 2013 #9

I agree, hold the line. nt redwitch Sep 2013 #10

This!! yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #11

Maybe watoos Sep 2013 #12

wtf? Sheepshank Oct 2013 #57

The thing about 11d chess is the inability of others, even your opponent, to recognize it bigbrother05 Oct 2013 #69

hear, hear! frylock Sep 2013 #13

Obama Picks Another Romney Advisor For Scoial Security Commission: blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #14

Is this the progressive version of a2liberal Sep 2013 #20

Should Lanhee Chen serve on the Social Security advisory board? Why or why not? cheapdate Sep 2013 #25

Except Obama didn't pick him. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #54

Why not start another thread to bash Obama and Democrats? Democat Oct 2013 #61

+1 Melissa G Oct 2013 #64

You're a one hit wonder... SaveAmerica Oct 2013 #68

Credit where credit is due Liberalynn Sep 2013 #15

Blackmailers never stop. Give in on this debt blackmail & get blackmailed on the next debt round. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #16

I hope they DO "hold the line" Plucketeer Oct 2013 #59

Please see the TOLL FREE Capitol Hill switchboard numbers in my sig line. calimary Oct 2013 #66

agreed !!!! nt steve2470 Sep 2013 #18

Once more into the breach, dear friends..........ONCE MORE! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #19

Group hug fadedrose Oct 2013 #50

Yes, hold the line. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #21

and hold hands too fadedrose Oct 2013 #51

For sure! mountain grammy Oct 2013 #55

Agreed deutsey Sep 2013 #22

Not this day NOT this time! Johnny Noshoes Sep 2013 #23

glad to finally see some heaven05 Sep 2013 #24

...but before that, we held the line! NuclearDem Sep 2013 #26

THIS is how he should be MORE OFTEN!!! Skittles Sep 2013 #27

Yes. texanwitch Oct 2013 #62

They need to hold strong. TDale313 Sep 2013 #28

I'm proud too! n/t fredamae Sep 2013 #29

High stakes poker and finally, finally, Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2013 #30

Did Obama call Boehner? cilla4progress Sep 2013 #31

Yes, per MSNBC WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #34

Agreed. Don't cave Mr President bowens43 Sep 2013 #33

Too bad you had to include the Mel Gibson clips. 4bucksagallon Sep 2013 #35

I'm very glad WilliamPitt Sep 2013 #36

I agree gopiscrap Sep 2013 #38

K & R Pisces Sep 2013 #42

Yes- It is a night of tragedy, a night of strength. Hold the line Mr. President; hold the line, Dems NBachers Sep 2013 #43

Recommended. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #44

So far so good! Asshats are going to get their clocks cleaned. lonestarnot Sep 2013 #46

Right wing authoritarians are unable to negotiate - they bully. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #48

I agree 100%! DrewFlorida Oct 2013 #49

I'm always proud of them IrishAyes Oct 2013 #52

Say what you want about the President, but ... Laelth Oct 2013 #53

Damn that made me proud barbiegeek Oct 2013 #56

Agreed. Hold the line. magical thyme Oct 2013 #58

Some backbone at long, long last The Second Stone Oct 2013 #60

I would negotiate with Republicans, and not hold the line. tclambert Oct 2013 #63

Please continue to stand up for us!! oldandhappy Oct 2013 #65

nice when we can come together florida08 Oct 2013 #70

for all the repukes' misplaced fulminating about the Founding Fathers... BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #71

K&R stonecutter357 Oct 2013 #72