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sabrina 1

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22. We will be watching those talks. No negotiations with these
Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:08 PM
Oct 2013

political terrorists on ANYTHING that adversely affects the people, such as the Chained CPI are acceptable. All the compromising with them has led them to believe that they will get what they want if they do stuff like this. And for all we know, since there was no chance of reversing the ACA that was not the real reason at all.

I did read Reid's letter and it reminded me of how angry Dems were back then when he chose to cave to Republicans on Bush's policies. He says in the letter that he hated Bush's Iraq policies, yet he continued to vote for the funding. That makes me even more angry. I would prefer if he has actually agreed.

That letter demonstrates that the Left/Democrats were right after all but our elected officials chose not to fight for THEY themselves believed and allowed the rest of us to take the attacks and the claims made to many of us that we were on the 'fringes' by Right Wingers 'because EVEN YOUR OWN PARTY' is voting with Bush.

Which is why we are now much more vigilant about watching what they DO, not what they SAY.

Reid's letter was clear. He was attempting to appeal to an sense of ethics that isn't there by pointing out how HE had compromised on an issue as important as the Iraq War, and is willing to do so again.

We will see. But we are all older and wiser now than we used to be. If you think something is so wrong, as the Iraq War was, then you should never compromise on it. It cost over one million lives. I can't imagine myself compromising on that. That is something so important it is worth giving up if necessary, one's political career over. A few people did back then. I have the utmost respect for them.

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meh, it will only last so long. nt Javaman Oct 2013 #1
Until the next bail-out and upwards income transfer - which this really is. leveymg Oct 2013 #7
yup. limping wall street along with welfare for the corporations. nt Javaman Oct 2013 #8
And yet ... stocks are down today. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #2
This is just a snap shot. Look at the longer term and larger trends at work here. leveymg Oct 2013 #5
So the economy is improving and the DOW is up. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #9
There are several economies. The ones that most impact us are not much improved. leveymg Oct 2013 #11
While everyone is focusing on the ACA as the reason for the shutdown, maybe they sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #3
By and large, big business embraces the ACA which was passed to cut their costs leveymg Oct 2013 #6
Yes, I do remember who sets policy for both parties. And that that ACA Bailed out sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #10
I notice folks aren't making the ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #12
The focus is on the stated cause of the shutdown. And we know there will be no sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #13
Why not make a prediction of which one will be bargained away? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #14
I never make predictions. I ask questions. Republicans can either back down with sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #15
Nothing. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #16
Sen. Reid has offered to negotiate with Boehner, sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #17
Did you read Reid's letter? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #20
We will be watching those talks. No negotiations with these sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #22
An 'electoral turn to the left' needs actual Left parties leftstreet Oct 2013 #4
kick for truth Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #18
Yesterday's news Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #19
Daily returns are meaningless. Look at the trend in market cap for a year. leveymg Oct 2013 #21
No Government = No Regulation Octafish Oct 2013 #23
Exactly. Part of the solution or part of the problem. leveymg Oct 2013 #24
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