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JoeyT

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109. Really? I think they're funny.

Thu Oct 3, 2013, 02:03 AM

Oct 2013

They can't decide if liberals are scum they can't be bothered to scrape off their shoe that they clearly don't need to win elections or if we totally cost them every election we've ever lost. The emotional drama has risen to such a fever pitch they occasionally manage to scream both in the same thread, sometimes even from the same person. They'll rec any thread by any troll as long as they insist liberals suck and are to blame for all the world's problems. Then they scream like a fucking banshee if you accuse them of not being a liberal.

Of course now you're being accused of ruining party unity. We're to assume it doesn't ruin party unity to talk about how much liberals suck, because the very people whinging about it here are faithfully reccing those threads. Apparently what the party is supposed to be unified on is what a bunch of losers liberals are and how no one should take them seriously.

We lost 2010 largely because we didn't get the youth vote out like we did in 2008. Twas a fuckup of the organizers, not the voters, which is why the faithful are so desperate to paint someone -anyone- else as being to blame. The party machine dropped the ball, and is blaming the fans for making them fumble. I don't even think the policy was that big a deal. The GOTV effort just wasn't there. That might have been a side effect of demoralizing the base, but surely no one would be silly enough to insist a politician deserves not only our vote, but our time and money as well. (Apparently by birthright, or something. Yes, I'm joking, because people will suggest exactly that.)

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I'm sick of the liberal bashing going on here. [View all] Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 OP

It is one return troll disrupting and egging everyone on. morningfog Oct 2013 #1

Shameless self-promoting return troll at that. MNBrewer Oct 2013 #12

Thankfully RavensChick Oct 2013 #163

No, it's a consistent theme here and has been basically ever since 2010 Fumesucker Oct 2013 #17

I don't disagree. morningfog Oct 2013 #25

Lots and lots of return trolls around here... SidDithers Oct 2013 #38

Well, that's not cool either. morningfog Oct 2013 #60

And people posting hatred for the left. The "left" are Democrats Sid. What's the objective? rhett o rick Oct 2013 #65

Not all of who claim to be the "left" are Democrats... SidDithers Oct 2013 #73

Of course there may be fakes on the left. That isnt an excuse to bad mouth the left. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #77

Better Believe It!!...nt SidDithers Oct 2013 #79

I won't miss Safetykitten. Good riddance. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #100

Had nothing good to say about Democrats treestar Oct 2013 #161

True. And not all who claim to be Democrats are left. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #137

Actually most liberals did vote in 2010 and they voted for Democrats despite their disappointments Bjorn Against Oct 2013 #2

^THIS^^^^^^ DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #6

Right. onehandle Oct 2013 #15

Sad to say but that is so true, they think they only need to vote during the "important" elections rl6214 Oct 2013 #118

Exactly, liberal turnout was pretty darn close to what it was in 2008. Salviati Oct 2013 #16

I was there and it was the left that did turn out. The wishy-fucking-washy rhett o rick Oct 2013 #67

Right. We know and knew what the alternative is and was. We are not fools. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #72

Who is really to blame? Egnever Oct 2013 #3

Point very well made. morningfog Oct 2013 #4

well, they sure showed him then lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #7

And why did some sit out the election! Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #10

Cause they were played Egnever Oct 2013 #20

Most of which came Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #28

LOL Egnever Oct 2013 #35

No, they did come after 2010. Chan790 Oct 2013 #48

DADT was repealed in 2010. ProSense Oct 2013 #54

Post election TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #158

This ignorant shit again... DURHAM D Oct 2013 #102

Wtf? Control-Z Oct 2013 #30

I think the OP meant the Justice Dept under Obama leftstreet Oct 2013 #33

What about the anti war, and the pro single payer vote? zeemike Oct 2013 #97

Off-year elections almost always draw fewer voters. pnwmom Oct 2013 #103

Not this time. RavensChick Oct 2013 #162

There's blame enough to go around, to include pols who didn't win over voters. Orsino Oct 2013 #148

no argument here Egnever Oct 2013 #149

yup. it's YOUR FAULT if you sat out the election Scout Oct 2013 #151

I voted gladly and proudly and with neither hesitation nor reservation. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #5

Thank you! Big Picture kinda guy like the President.. who as Cha Oct 2013 #18

Cause and Effect. sheshe2 Oct 2013 #41

Just imagine all he had to do, she.. it would be Cha Oct 2013 #50

Kicking you post SKP! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #29

I did the same, and I worked to get other Democrats to the polls. MineralMan Oct 2013 #150

curious, when did he say LGBT voters were similar to incest and beastiality? I missed that lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #8

He never did. The OP is a flat out lie. n/t Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #14

A legal brief put forward by his administration did it. MNBrewer Oct 2013 #22

Here. Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #23

Where is the quote from the President? You said "if he hadn't snubbed" ProSense Oct 2013 #43

Now I admit, I am a little slow, but no where in those links did I see ANY reference to incest or lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #44

Let me help you out: 1000words Oct 2013 #113

From the first link. Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #133

it's not there. try again. o brother. Whisp Oct 2013 #119

Oh good .. you're admitting it. President Obama wasn't fast enough Cha Oct 2013 #9

I didn't Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #24

and who exactly identifies themselves as third way? BainsBane Oct 2013 #11

one question DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #13

The beatings will continue until morale improves leftstreet Oct 2013 #19

... Tx4obama Oct 2013 #21

Who's to blame? Independents. neverforget Oct 2013 #26

Not me! SoutherDem Oct 2013 #27

when did President Obama compare the relationships of LGBT voters to incest and bestiality? Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #31

Posted up thread. Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #34

now that is a real stretch Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #42

Unrec. Control-Z Oct 2013 #32

The truth hurts Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #36

You are just wrong. Control-Z Oct 2013 #45

Props for being diplomatic enough not to use the word "pony" 1000words Oct 2013 #52

I guess sitting out sure showed em. I myself prefer to hold my breath until I turn blue lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #49

REC! CAUSE IT ISN'T BillyRibs Oct 2013 #89

Hmmmm frazzled Oct 2013 #37

I'm Liberal and I voted.. Thank for stating so eloquently what Cha Oct 2013 #64

I wouldn't refer to you as liberal at all. cui bono Oct 2013 #80

+1 1000words Oct 2013 #81

I don't care. Cha Oct 2013 #82

Thank you for proving my point. The fact that you do it in such a juvenile way cui bono Oct 2013 #87

Spot on! TreasonousBastard Oct 2013 #78

+1000! Excellent post, frazzled! And thank you! BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #88

This is why I joined this site after years of lurking 1000words Oct 2013 #39

From my research, I have not seen a break down that showed liberals did not vote. I voted and am Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #40

true liberals did not sit out the 2010 elections JI7 Oct 2013 #46

Obama didn't run for election in 2010 JI7 Oct 2013 #47

I'm going to take a break from DU for a couple of days. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #51

wow joshcryer Oct 2013 #56

How about you take a break for a few years? ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #61

Member of the Reality Based Community!????? Is that what you call La, La, Land? BillyRibs Oct 2013 #95

Well I'm glad someone named ConservativeDemocrat speaks for the liberals. JoeyT Oct 2013 #96

lol. picking on names now? What's the T stand for, eh Joey? Whisp Oct 2013 #135

First letter of last name. JoeyT Oct 2013 #145

I hope the right people see this Control-Z Oct 2013 #66

"Right" is the operative word 1000words Oct 2013 #69

No where in the rules does it say you have to agree with everything Obama does. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #75

... SidDithers Oct 2013 #68

Right. Because you can't stand to see people happy pnwmom Oct 2013 #104

don't forget your ducky. n/t Whisp Oct 2013 #124

Most liberals voted nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #53

This sounds like democrat bashing. cry baby Oct 2013 #55

When hasn't there been a "crisis" in the last 10 years? 1000words Oct 2013 #59

Blaming Obama for the 2010 election results seems cry baby Oct 2013 #70

Only a fool doesn't understand President Obama holds the winning hand here 1000words Oct 2013 #71

Agree 100%. nt cry baby Oct 2013 #74

Then how is it a crisis? 1000words Oct 2013 #76

It's a crisis for about 800,000 families like mine. cry baby Oct 2013 #134

You've already framed the context as such 1000words Oct 2013 #136

Fine. Your question was "how is this a crisis?" cry baby Oct 2013 #140

Touch� 1000words Oct 2013 #143

Thank you! I enjoyed the conversation with you. nt cry baby Oct 2013 #153

n/t RavensChick Oct 2013 #164

In a democracy, it is the peoples' responsibility to hold public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2013 #141

Yes it is...and this OP placed the blame for 2010 election results at democrats' feet. cry baby Oct 2013 #154

Finally, after months of flamebait OPs monopolizing the GP, we've ALL been in solidarity pacalo Oct 2013 #57

I voted in 2010. WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #58

I agree with your title, but sadly you too seem to believe Rex Oct 2013 #62

Ya think ya might be confusing The President with this guy? sheshe2 Oct 2013 #63

I'm sick of the bullshit trolling going on here... TreasonousBastard Oct 2013 #83

Really Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #86

+1,000 !!!! Tell it like it is, TB... nt MADem Oct 2013 #92

guess there was too much positive talk about Obamacare Whisp Oct 2013 #131

WORD! BillyRibs Oct 2013 #84

I'm sick of the liberal bashing as well, but I don't really agree with your post. cui bono Oct 2013 #85

I don't know what it takes to be called a "liberal" in some corners.... MADem Oct 2013 #90

+1 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #91

They also forget all the good stuff he and Pelosi... TreasonousBastard Oct 2013 #98

Ain't that the truth. MADem Oct 2013 #99

Hey ya, Bona Fide Liberal, you.. Cha Oct 2013 #107

Thanks!!! nt MADem Oct 2013 #108

Frankly Bobbie Jo Oct 2013 #93

I wish there were hundreds of Bernie Sanders out there. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #94

Liberals just didn't GOTV and pushed GOP narrative. joshcryer Oct 2013 #101

I don't think a lot of us sat out... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #105

This is a good example of what sitting out does. Decide if you want to support the bad ones who will uppityperson Oct 2013 #106

Really? I think they're funny. JoeyT Oct 2013 #109

Well said. 1000words Oct 2013 #111

There's no way 2010 repeats itself bhikkhu Oct 2013 #110

A very small group seeks to drive Democrats out of the party AgingAmerican Oct 2013 #112

Are these the same "liberals" who ignore the facts? intaglio Oct 2013 #114

Hi I'm both very liberal and a big supporter of the president LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #115

Amen to that. Liberals tend to play for the long game. We can infight AFTER WE WIN in 2014. ancianita Oct 2013 #121

I had to look at your recs to understand what your OP was about. n/t Whisp Oct 2013 #116

It's typical of many here, preferring to eat their own rather than banding together. rl6214 Oct 2013 #117

Says Mr. Congeniality BainsBane Oct 2013 #120

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #123

Someone once said: BainsBane Oct 2013 #125

You're the one following me around. rl6214 Oct 2013 #126

This may come as a shock BainsBane Oct 2013 #129

Really? I don't recall proposing to anyone BainsBane Oct 2013 #127

Don't want to hear from people? rl6214 Oct 2013 #128

Incorrect BainsBane Oct 2013 #130

Never mind that troll. He was shown the door. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #166

I noticed BainsBane Oct 2013 #167

Excuse me, but what office was Obama running for in 2010? BainsBane Oct 2013 #122

Liberals always vote. Always. bravenak Oct 2013 #132

Third wayers gave those of us who stayed home a reason to Taverner Oct 2013 #138

There were plenty of reasons to vote Democratic in 2010. Daniel537 Oct 2013 #139

Remind me how we got the Democrats who lost in 2010? brooklynite Oct 2013 #142

shame on you SwampG8r Oct 2013 #144

This message was self-deleted by its author sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #146

Liberal Turnout was almost the same as it was in 2008, which was a Presidential sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #147

+100. n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #152

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #155

+1 leftstreet Oct 2013 #156

Moderates who leaned left sat out, not liberals. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #157

Independents and young people, who turned out in droves in 2008 were the sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #159

I'm sick of the bashing of "third way types" treestar Oct 2013 #160

I was plenty pissed at Obama but that had nothing to do with 2010, he wasn't on the ballot. TheKentuckian Oct 2013 #165