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In reply to the discussion: Um, this has more to do with 20+ years of Third Way Dems appeasing real crazies, [View all]joshcryer
(62,536 posts)Are you fucking kidding me? They're an embarrassing do-nothing congress. They didn't pass anything that could or would be vetoed. It's all been stupid ass bullshit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/112th_United_States_Congress
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/113th_United_States_Congress
I suppose he could've vetoed the free trade bills, even though he campaigned on them... and they passed with supermajorities (and could've been overridden).
I suppose he could've vetoed the JOBs Act... easily overridden...
I suppose he could've vetoed the NDAA ... oops, easily overridden (oh lordy do I remember the people here complaining about that, saying Obama should've vetoed it on principle; even though an override would've probably included much worse MIC provisions).
I guess he could've vetoed the Budget Control Act even though it made Boehner look like a fool... even though Obama had originally offered much larger cuts ($6 trillion I believe) and most of the reduction in the deficit came from ... the ACA. A political win of epic proportions and it staved off the bullshit for years (in fact, what we're looking at now is a direct response to that ownage).
He could've vetoed the "payroll tax cut" (it could not have been overridden, not enough Senators) but it was an election year and I doubt he wanted to raise taxes on individuals, even though the people calling for it likely enjoy a higher tax bracket than the working poor.
You get the idea. But then, you're the guy who doubted that Obama wanted to put everything on the table. And think that vetoes prove someone is fighting. If the other side isn't fighting and their actual goal is to destroy the government and let it fail, then there's nothing much that can be done.