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In reply to the discussion: Update on the bikers who terrorized a New York City Family. [View all]
GreenStormCloud
(12,072 posts)365. Here is page 11:
Nov 25, 2009 - Milwaukee outshot Texas in the scoreless first period 10-6.
I don't think a basketbal game qualifies.
www.texasranger.org/history/BriefHistory1.htm
Homer Garrison, Jr., long-time director of the Texas Department of Public ... would serve to reinforce Mexico's claim to Texas and act as a buffer between the .... took part in the ill-fated Mier Expedition, in which a group of Texans invaded Mexico. ... Hardin served a lengthy prison sentence, only to die in a shoot-out in El Paso ...
That's a history page about the Texas Rangers. The shoot-out referenced happened in 1895. That is hardly current.
www.adamwilt.com/HD/4cams-part2.html
Updated 2007.06.30 - belated credit to Zane for his Texas Shootout badge ... Omega Broadcast Group (omegaaustin.com) provided facilities, monitors, ... should have done the same with the HVX200, setting its sharpness between -4 and 0 on ...
A comparison of camcorders. No guns.
www.reporternews.com/news/2008/oct/19/west-texas-shootout/
Oct 19, 2008 - 4 West Texas A&M University, 52-35, before 19,380 fans in a Lone Star Conference South Division ... It was a much-hyped game between two of the top-ranked teams in Division. .... Scripps Interactive Newspapers Group
Another basketball game.
www.redstxshootout.com/
Red started this group for the "Boys!", meaning ... They first started as a lunch/dinner between Red and a few friends. After a few ... Welcome to Texas Shoot Out!
Professional wrestling.
swimswam.com/tag/michael-andrew/
Jun 10, 2013 - Michael Andrew to Compete at The Fastest Man in Texas Shootout ... (or tied) over the past year between the short course and long course seasons. ... Santo Condorelli Breaks 17-18 National Age Group Record in 50 Free.
A swimming meet.
www.foxsanantonio.com/
Insuring Texas' Future ... Texas Headlines .... Waste Watch tracks whether local, state and federal governments or any groups are using your money wisely...or ...
That is a link to Fox new in San Antonio. The shootout was NOT between groups of people. It was ONE criminal in a convenience store who killed a deputy sheriff.
www.brownwoodtx.com/
Grubbs issues statement on death of West Texas deputy ... Little Dude Ranch's Ashley McCowen guides a group of children through a "tasting party" Thursday ...
A politician makes a statement about the death of the deputy that is linked above.
PDF]
Co-opetition PowerPoint Slides
users.uoa.gr/~atsaoussi/Nalebuff.pdf
by B Nalebuff - Cited by 481 - Related articles
interplay between competition .... What's Your. Added Value? Egocentric vs. Allocentric. Individual vs. Group. It's a Wonderful Life ... Texas Shoot-Out. » One side ...
[DOC]
2013 Texas Shootout Rules and Procedures - Sport Ngin
assets.ngin.com/.../Texas_Shootout_Procedures_and_Rules__1_2013.do...
Aug 31, 2013 - 10th Annual TEXAS SHOOTOUT ..... Noisemakers are not allowed in the viewpoint (upstairs enclosed area) between the rinks and the lobby ...
These two appear to be the same thing. Some sort of annual competition.
You have failed. I am not going to wade through 82 million hits. It is now up to you to find incidents of large groups of people shooting it out that happened recently in Texas. We have only had legal concealed carry since 1995 so anything before that would be illegal carry.
I don't think a basketbal game qualifies.
www.texasranger.org/history/BriefHistory1.htm
Homer Garrison, Jr., long-time director of the Texas Department of Public ... would serve to reinforce Mexico's claim to Texas and act as a buffer between the .... took part in the ill-fated Mier Expedition, in which a group of Texans invaded Mexico. ... Hardin served a lengthy prison sentence, only to die in a shoot-out in El Paso ...
That's a history page about the Texas Rangers. The shoot-out referenced happened in 1895. That is hardly current.
www.adamwilt.com/HD/4cams-part2.html
Updated 2007.06.30 - belated credit to Zane for his Texas Shootout badge ... Omega Broadcast Group (omegaaustin.com) provided facilities, monitors, ... should have done the same with the HVX200, setting its sharpness between -4 and 0 on ...
A comparison of camcorders. No guns.
www.reporternews.com/news/2008/oct/19/west-texas-shootout/
Oct 19, 2008 - 4 West Texas A&M University, 52-35, before 19,380 fans in a Lone Star Conference South Division ... It was a much-hyped game between two of the top-ranked teams in Division. .... Scripps Interactive Newspapers Group
Another basketball game.
www.redstxshootout.com/
Red started this group for the "Boys!", meaning ... They first started as a lunch/dinner between Red and a few friends. After a few ... Welcome to Texas Shoot Out!
Professional wrestling.
swimswam.com/tag/michael-andrew/
Jun 10, 2013 - Michael Andrew to Compete at The Fastest Man in Texas Shootout ... (or tied) over the past year between the short course and long course seasons. ... Santo Condorelli Breaks 17-18 National Age Group Record in 50 Free.
A swimming meet.
www.foxsanantonio.com/
Insuring Texas' Future ... Texas Headlines .... Waste Watch tracks whether local, state and federal governments or any groups are using your money wisely...or ...
That is a link to Fox new in San Antonio. The shootout was NOT between groups of people. It was ONE criminal in a convenience store who killed a deputy sheriff.
www.brownwoodtx.com/
Grubbs issues statement on death of West Texas deputy ... Little Dude Ranch's Ashley McCowen guides a group of children through a "tasting party" Thursday ...
A politician makes a statement about the death of the deputy that is linked above.
PDF]
Co-opetition PowerPoint Slides
users.uoa.gr/~atsaoussi/Nalebuff.pdf
by B Nalebuff - Cited by 481 - Related articles
interplay between competition .... What's Your. Added Value? Egocentric vs. Allocentric. Individual vs. Group. It's a Wonderful Life ... Texas Shoot-Out. » One side ...
[DOC]
2013 Texas Shootout Rules and Procedures - Sport Ngin
assets.ngin.com/.../Texas_Shootout_Procedures_and_Rules__1_2013.do...
Aug 31, 2013 - 10th Annual TEXAS SHOOTOUT ..... Noisemakers are not allowed in the viewpoint (upstairs enclosed area) between the rinks and the lobby ...
These two appear to be the same thing. Some sort of annual competition.
You have failed. I am not going to wade through 82 million hits. It is now up to you to find incidents of large groups of people shooting it out that happened recently in Texas. We have only had legal concealed carry since 1995 so anything before that would be illegal carry.
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FWIW, I've seen countless kids become fucked-up adults even with excellent parenting...
Blue_Tires
Oct 2013
#9
If Lien had had an automatic assault weapon and sprayed the entire group, would he have been
kelliekat44
Oct 2013
#69
well probuably if he had shot five or six of them the rest would have run away
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#187
better to hope they are not going to beat you and mayby rape your wife then
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#266
and yet when he was stuck later in traffic they dragged him out and beat him
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#269
if he had a gun there is more chance his daughter would have ended up killing herself or someone
JI7
Oct 2013
#271
gun nuts always see things and think about how they would have been the hero with their guns
JI7
Oct 2013
#275
lol, or people who are trained and have experience look at it and use it as a what if
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#276
it is gun nuttery to always view things that happen and think about how they would have been the her
JI7
Oct 2013
#279
depends on whether those thirty people are determined to harm you and your family
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#333
sorry getting beaten and cut is not coming out ahead, the guys that did it only
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#348
well both my principal and my backup are .40 and i use the old hydroshock. lol
loli phabay
Oct 2013
#378
I disagree. In Texas, the bikers would have been armed too and we would have had a shootout
stevenleser
Oct 2013
#340
There are 82 million hits on scores of pages. First few pages are of those two incidents
stevenleser
Oct 2013
#364
Sorry, but those weren't "bikers", they were punks on crotch-rockets, Enduros & 4-wheelers....
Ghost in the Machine
Oct 2013
#52
would be funny to see a confrontation between the NJ punks and a large group of real bikers
Supersedeas
Oct 2013
#304
"So he is flat out lying about that." Wanna see a slashed tire? I'll SHOW you a slashed tire.
cherokeeprogressive
Oct 2013
#303
I'm saying that he drove a long way AFTER his front right tire was slashed.
cherokeeprogressive
Oct 2013
#315
You can see the tire at 3:04 in the video just after it had been ripped off the vehicle
cpwm17
Oct 2013
#332
Good catch about the tire that had come off the wheel at 3:04 in the GoPro2900 video.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#336
It's unclear if the collision even caused him to dump his bike. Possibly, it didn't.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#331
I'm with you. By the way, I found a link with a clip showing the actual running over of bike by SUV
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#129
One person walks up and yanks open the door. Yup, and that's enough to be killed or seriously hurt.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#239
They took over the freeway. They are law-breakers. And they brake checked him.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#249
Beating him after he tried killing their friend proves they were going to beat him up anyway?!?!?!?
ieoeja
Oct 2013
#256
he was trying to get away from them , they surrounded him , there was no reason for the fuckwad to
JI7
Oct 2013
#261
Yup. Pretty much. Normal healthy people do not beat up people who are trying to get away from them
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#262
One person jerking your door open justifies running over a man administering first aid ...
ieoeja
Oct 2013
#255
they were behaving like thugs the entire time , they deserved to get run over or worse , fuck them
JI7
Oct 2013
#257
the Brake Check guy's act was to intimidate him and gang up on the driver, he actually did stop
JI7
Oct 2013
#297
Even if the SUV driver was wrong in how he protected his family (I do not believe he was wrong),
Jenoch
Oct 2013
#318
It started with an accident. The motorcyclist stopped suddenly in front of him.
pnwmom
Oct 2013
#165
I would run them down in heartbeat if I felt my loved ones were in danger.
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#174
The only tragedy is that the other 29 are physically able to ride motorcycles still. nt
geek tragedy
Oct 2013
#11
It's not beating twenty hoodlums with guns...This ain't Hollywood or GTA 5...
Blue_Tires
Oct 2013
#19
Sure...but it's also very, very likely most would flee once shots were fired.
Lizzie Poppet
Oct 2013
#34
Yes, I have encountered Hells Angels and they would literally murder them.
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#178
hope their bikes get rusty while they enjoy the hospitality of a state retention facility
dembotoz
Oct 2013
#22
I watched the video- On instinct, when I started getting intimidated and surrounded...
richmwill
Oct 2013
#27
The one in the coma paralyzed, his family is all over the local news crying saying the driver should
NotThisTime
Oct 2013
#40
yup, local news is totally reporting this in the favor of the damn bikers WTF
NotThisTime
Oct 2013
#44
I see the biker pull in front of him and slow way down while looking behind him.
Marrah_G
Oct 2013
#62
I've seen this before. The bikers likely wanted to stop traffic to stunt on the road.
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#175
Their sorry asses are lucky more weren't run over.....i have no pity for the injured one.
Gin
Oct 2013
#59
I'll assume the linked video is showing riders going in excess of 150mph, or more.
kentauros
Oct 2013
#155
I cannot agree with you on this. Put a speed limiter on them. But you cannot ban them.
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#180
I'd panic too if thirty people surrounded my car on the West Side Highway nt
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Oct 2013
#72
Exactly they were trying to pull him out of that car before he drove off and over that guy....
NotThisTime
Oct 2013
#77
Most of the videos only show the initial breaking of the window with a helmet.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#149
You refer to a description in a reply above that I think is an encapsulation of the whole thing.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#159
No, you would not have. You would do anythiong in your power to protect your family from harm.
Ikonoklast
Oct 2013
#191
So you would give yourself to the mob, taking a beating and maybe surviving.
oneshooter
Oct 2013
#209
The "beating" could well have been fatal for all occupants of the truck. I believe that most people
ladjf
Oct 2013
#210
Such a beating could be fatal or could leave you with brain damage. And remember,
tblue37
Oct 2013
#277
The bikes were driving wrecklessly, you don't stop dead in front of a vehicle on the Parkway.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#90
Obviously, the driver was the victim and should not be expected to act normally.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#104
I've spoken to Chicago cops who say Barney Miller was the most life-like cop show ever. n/t
ieoeja
Oct 2013
#330
I guess this dude will be a little bit less of a badass riding his wheelchair around
Nye Bevan
Oct 2013
#86
If this is the same J. Mieses who was injured, then it was really just a matter of time.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#88
Agreed. I watched about half an hour of the videos leading up to the incident
magical thyme
Oct 2013
#220
I just reread my post from last night. I never said I saw that in the video
magical thyme
Oct 2013
#259
One of my favorite sayings... "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes."
cherokeeprogressive
Oct 2013
#106
I'm not BLAMING the driver. Maybe you missed my saying possibly he'd never been in that situation.
cherokeeprogressive
Oct 2013
#130
I kind of hate to see the term "bikers" used to describe these guys. I was expecting
brewens
Oct 2013
#107
All that is true, they are a lawless lot, but multicultural. Link to SUV running over bike video:
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#137
i believe mezees mother is hispanic , and the crowd looked mixed up different races to me also
JI7
Oct 2013
#185
As a daily rider, I can tell you all with confidence that those riders are assholes...
Gravitycollapse
Oct 2013
#173
Zero sympathy for the guy who was only tending to a downed rider when he too got mowed
ecstatic
Oct 2013
#176
Or, "If you act like an ass, don't be surprised when you get kicked." nt
Common Sense Party
Oct 2013
#241
If you hang out with your stupid criminal buddies, doing stupid criminal shit
cemaphonic
Oct 2013
#186
I would have ran over as many of them as I could! Too bad they didn't try that with an 18 wheeler!
B Calm
Oct 2013
#195
To hear J. Meezee's mom tell it, they're just kids doing the normal end of summer thing.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#205
I think the Highway Patrol here in Missouri would be all over something
leftyladyfrommo
Oct 2013
#208
Squids like this deserve jail time and seizure of their licenses and bikes. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2013
#223
The guy in the hospital has never held a license in the first place - any license
NotThisTime
Oct 2013
#242
Yeah, people tend to get emotional when criminals terrorize families with toddlers.
cemaphonic
Oct 2013
#264
Nothing wrong with encouraging violence and harm to those who deserve it...
Decaffeinated
Oct 2013
#305
Yes, “Motorcycle Gangs” Still Exist. No, They Didn’t Attack a Man in New York.
steve2470
Oct 2013
#268
It seems to me that Mr. Cruz bears a great deal of blame for what happened that day.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#281
maybe Bloomberg and the NYPD will do something now, would like to hear from other NYC'ers
steve2470
Oct 2013
#282