They couldn't shoot out the tires? Did this have to end with a woman's death infront of a child.

[Savannahmann]

167. Denigrating?

Asking questions is denigrating? The original post was why did they have to shoot. The answer I gave was the change in attitude towards police, and the history of "acceptable" police shootings from the 1970's to today. Was any of my history inaccurate? It was the 1980's that we saw the first of the darkened apartment shootings of children playing with toy guns. Also the era when the police went from the .38 special revolver to the 9mm pistols, called at the time the "Wondernines" starting with the Beretta 9mm. Then in the 1990's we saw the evolution of the he had a gun and we had to shoot to the we thought he had a gun and we had to shoot. Even this decade we've seen several shootings where the suspect gunned down had a wallet or other innocuous item in his hand and was gunned down.

My answer revolved around the idea that we had to question where we are with the use of force by the Police. Your answer to my response was that they had no choice but to protect the public. I pointed out that was not true, that the threat was contained, and then I posted a link where others in the media are now asking the questions.

I also pointed out that an hour after the shooting, we had reports that the driver was crazy. Now, how did they identify the suspect positively, access medical records through her Doctor/Hospital/clinics, and conduct the interviews to determine the mental state of the suspect in that short of a time period? They could not have, unless the NSA had it all cross referenced now, which you and others will say is CT nonsense. So we're left with a prepared response, an automatic response if you will.

In 1988 I was working as a Security Guard. I wanted more money, and took a course to get more certification. I went for the "baton" course, which would allow me to carry and use a nightstick. During that course, a sworn police officer teaching the course told the class that if we ever had to use the nightstick, to tell any witnesses that the suspect was a child molester. The idea being that we could turn the witnesses more friendly by making them think we were beating a person that everyone hated and should hate. I never said that.

So if the cops were in 1988 offering suggestions to use prepared lies to change the view of witnesses what makes you think that prepared lies are not a part of their normal procedure today?