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234. A few critical votes were against the public option, unfortunately.

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 02:45 AM

Oct 2013

Like Joe Lieberman's. So if we had kept it, the ACA wouldn't have passed.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/prescriptions/2009/10/did_lieberman_just_kill_the_public_option.html

Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, who was formerly a Democrat but who is now an independent, announced today that "if the bill remains what it is now, I will not be able to support a cloture motion before final passage." In other words, Lieberman will support a filibuster. "I can't see a way in which I could vote for cloture on any bill that contained a creation of a government-operated-run insurance company," Lieberman said.

One largely unspoken assumption behind Reid's quest to get an "opt out" version of the public option through the Senate is that he doesn't really need 60 votes for the health reform bill itself. He just needs 60 votes for the cloture motion prior to final passage. Once a filibuster is cut off, health reform can pass with 50 votes (the 51st being Vice President Joe Biden, president of the Senate). One reason Reid's gambit looked so promising as recently as yesterday was that Lieberman, despite his previously stated opposition to the health reform bill even without a public option (i.e., as passed by the Senate finance committee), had agreednot to support a filibuster against it. It now appears that Lieberman either changed his mind or was misunderstood.

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Well, I finally got to see the plans I qualify for on the federal exchange. [View all] Skip Intro Oct 2013 OP

Do you qualifiy for a subsidy? winter is coming Oct 2013 #1

Evidently not. It asked for my income, and projected next year. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #3

How does $10,000 not get you on medicaid? serious question, wondering. uppityperson Oct 2013 #16

The limit for Medicaid is not 100% FPL or more in all states. winter is coming Oct 2013 #69

Thank you. I am lucky to live in a state that did and do not understand why the others did not, but uppityperson Oct 2013 #158

What state do you live in? Everyone up to 133% of poverty level.. Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #56

Here is the key document to read BlueStreak Oct 2013 #134

ACA's "donut hole"? (a la Medicare Part D?) Roland99 Oct 2013 #241

I live in WI we didn't do the medicaid expansion, my income is less half the fpl, no subsidy HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #240

These teabagger Governors are trying to get a really horrible deal BlueStreak Oct 2013 #267

The ACA facilitates tremendous variance in costs between states, I can't make sense of some HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #298

I agree with you. it is mostly about competition BlueStreak Oct 2013 #324

It it were me, I'd try it again estimating 140% of FPL as an AGI lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #57

It is a Catch-22. BlueStreak Oct 2013 #102

Or just claim it on your income tax as "supplemental income" for which a W2 is... Barack_America Oct 2013 #114

That may be an option, but it is still probably committing perjury BlueStreak Oct 2013 #121

$600 federal tax. I ran the numbers. To pay $500 per year vs. $300 per month. Barack_America Oct 2013 #126

Don't forget state income tax. It can be a big number BlueStreak Oct 2013 #137

At this point it's all estimates. Skip Intro doesn't *know* what his 2014 income will be. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #150

I believe there is a reckoning when the tax returns are filed and if you lied on this BlueStreak Oct 2013 #268

a) I don't know of anyone who's ever been sent to tax court for overestimating their income lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #291

You really shouldn't be offering that kind of tax advice BlueStreak Oct 2013 #322

There isn't and couldn't be. Chan790 Oct 2013 #292

No. But when you file your tax return, your subsidy could be recalculated BlueStreak Oct 2013 #323

"I know it's wrong, but... Very little chance of being audited... I'd be tempted." cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #166

Lighten up Francis. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #183

Done? Yes, if that was standing between my kids getting fucking health care... Barack_America Oct 2013 #184

A wonderful world where everyone who can get away with it cheats and lies... cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #192

We're done here. Sorry about your baseball team.nt Barack_America Oct 2013 #195

Fuck baseball. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #201

Yeah we'll, be sure and let us know if its morally wrong to move to a different state. Barack_America Oct 2013 #210

You're fucking kidding? You're suggesting someone who can't afford the ACA premium in a state... cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #215

I completely disagree with you on this Tumbulu Oct 2013 #218

My keyboard is waterproof but you owe me the cost of wipes for my monitor. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #221

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #286

You're seeing criminality and malfeasance where none apparently exists. Chan790 Oct 2013 #296

You are correct, these posters Tumbulu Oct 2013 #331

+1000. n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #198

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #280

Yawn. Save your sermon for Sunday. And thanks for outing yourself as against our President. Barack_America Oct 2013 #284

At this point, you're being asked to estimate 2014 income. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #146

It doesn't even have to be dishonest. Barack_America Oct 2013 #156

So you'd lie. Cool. How many others might there be like you? cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #147

How sanctimonious. alarimer Oct 2013 #259

Medicare is not cheap for everyone! CountAllVotes Oct 2013 #281

You are spreading false information Tumbulu Oct 2013 #332

I agree with you on this Tumbulu Oct 2013 #219

if I was putting together pro forma financial statements Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #190

You didn't qualify for a subsidy Sgent Oct 2013 #132

That's ProSense Oct 2013 #2

I have screen grab if you'd like to see it. n/t Skip Intro Oct 2013 #5

Sure, I can't see how $10,000 wouldn't qualify for Medicaid. n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #6

It depends on what state you live in. winter is coming Oct 2013 #8

Under the health care law expansion that changes. ProSense Oct 2013 #9

No, there will still be a gap in states that aren't expanding Medicaid. winter is coming Oct 2013 #21

The states that aren't expanding Medicaid are not an impact of the law. ProSense Oct 2013 #48

The expansion of Medicaid was part of the ACA package. Granted, this gap exists winter is coming Oct 2013 #74

there's no way the administration thought this challenge would hold up in court Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #224

And yet, as the mantra goes, Igel Oct 2013 #290

They're the result in an oversight in the PPACA, PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #75

It doesn't in Missouri. xmas74 Oct 2013 #39

Yup, Medicaid here isn't even for the poor, Hayabusa Oct 2013 #173

And pregnant. xmas74 Oct 2013 #212

Same in NH. Disabled or pregnant. nt bunnies Oct 2013 #272

This message was self-deleted by its author SteveG Oct 2013 #82

It would not in a state that is not expanding Medicaid. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #307

Screen Grab. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #15

What is that? ProSense Oct 2013 #37

That is three plans side by side. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #40

That still doesn't make sense. ProSense Oct 2013 #54

I'm not on Medicaid and uninsured. Yes, I got those rates with Skip Intro Oct 2013 #58

You were ineligible for Medicaid before the law? ProSense Oct 2013 #61

Yes, I'm a single male. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #63

The state is the problem it doesn't support low-income individuals. ProSense Oct 2013 #71

Sure, the state plays a role. I had the wrong impression of what Skip Intro Oct 2013 #76

Expanding Medicaid would make you eligible. ProSense Oct 2013 #77

Why aren't there federal subsidies to cover that gap? Skip Intro Oct 2013 #83

The law was altered by the SCOTUS ProSense Oct 2013 #90

That is the real problem the Supreme Court struck that part down /nt lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #165

Things are changin ... MindMover Oct 2013 #328

I'm very sorry that this is happening to you and millions of others. pnwmom Oct 2013 #101

I don't qualify for Medicaid either CountAllVotes Oct 2013 #287

Seems like you could be on Medicaid if you are unemployed. But in this instance, Schema Thing Oct 2013 #72

All wellness visits Duckhunter935 Oct 2013 #7

What is the difference between a "wellness visit" and an "office visit?" Skip Intro Oct 2013 #28

A wellness visit is a yearly physical, for starters. xmas74 Oct 2013 #43

Under the bronze plan - Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #87

Sure, show it. I'm poor, too. I want to see your proof. nt babylonsister Oct 2013 #53

Post 15. Here's a link. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #60

You know every plan in every state? enlightenment Oct 2013 #44

does not seem right Duckhunter935 Oct 2013 #4

What's a 'wellness visit'? That's some jargon I have never heard in a lifetime of being Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #10

I believe it is preventative care, check-ups, etc. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #14

correct Duckhunter935 Oct 2013 #17

And so if you are sick and need the doctor, that's deductible territory.... Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #65

well, when you put it that way BlueStreak Oct 2013 #111

It is a well person checkup. Basic vitals, look see, make sure nothing is developing rather than uppityperson Oct 2013 #18

Preventative care, xmas74 Oct 2013 #45

Although the previous replies are correct jazzimov Oct 2013 #64

From what others say, 'wellness visit' means you have NO symptoms it is a check up from Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #70

And it will catch Duckhunter935 Oct 2013 #85

i really can't put my finger on it... sweetapogee Oct 2013 #118

yes, plus BlueStreak Oct 2013 #124

I agree high deductibles are crappy. Washington does offer some plans that are HSA applicable Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #142

you haven't? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #141

There's a gap in some states between Medicaid income caps and the required income for subsidy Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #38

Exactly. It is a huge Catch-22 affecting MANY folks. Everybody PLEASE take time to understand this. BlueStreak Oct 2013 #117

Yeah, you have to boost your income to above the FPL to be eligible for the exchange subsidy Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #130

The legislative theory was that the Medicaid expansion was mandatory becaose the Feds BlueStreak Oct 2013 #138

Actually, it's worse than that. winter is coming Oct 2013 #161

Thank you so much for repeatedly pointing this out. bunnies Oct 2013 #274

But then the problem becomes defacto7 Oct 2013 #182

Reporting from SC where the plan is in place to do as little as SaveAmerica Oct 2013 #326

You must be in one of the states that did not take the extra Medicaid money to enroll low income. dem in texas Oct 2013 #11

Medicaid by dtste LukeFL Oct 2013 #47

Exactly. This is the giant Catch-22 the SCOTUS created BlueStreak Oct 2013 #98

And the emergency care costs for the uninsured are what push up insurance rates for everyone JDPriestly Oct 2013 #231

And you were such a fan before. Aw, geez. n/t Cerridwen Oct 2013 #12

Hahaha! ya got me! nt babylonsister Oct 2013 #55

get more info before handmade34 Oct 2013 #13

and too low of income Duckhunter935 Oct 2013 #20

Not terribly helpful, but I think you're exempt from paying a penalty REP Oct 2013 #19

Half right. There will be no penalty, but he gets no subsidy BlueStreak Oct 2013 #106

It's because you'll make below 138% federal poverty level and SC didnt expand Medicaid. Barack_America Oct 2013 #22

I like creek dog. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #23

cjeek dgg Electric Monk Oct 2013 #197

Do you also alert on him after some booze? Rex Oct 2013 #237

As of Sept 17, 2013 South Carolina is NOT going to accept the Medicaid expansion. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #24

I thought there were federal subsidies. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #25

Subsidies are only for people who make 100% to 400% of FPL. winter is coming Oct 2013 #30

Sorry, but the ACA won't do anything for you because your state is choosing JaneyVee Oct 2013 #31

Dude lancer78 Oct 2013 #34

There's a donut hole between un-expanded Medicaid and federal subsidies. truebluegreen Oct 2013 #42

That is key to the part that says "you me be eligible for Medicard, even without the expansion, Jamastiene Oct 2013 #308

Don't dare complain about it, Pro is sick and tired of attacks from you poor people Dragonfli Oct 2013 #314

+1000000 Jamastiene Oct 2013 #329

The federal subsidies are designed for those outside of the Medicaid expansion. Barack_America Oct 2013 #52

Here Hear...N/T busterbrown Oct 2013 #27

It's because you live in SC. Many states lowered Medicaid eligibility because JaneyVee Oct 2013 #26

Whatever the reason, I now have an additional cost and no insurance. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #32

No, no fed subs for states that opt out of Medicaid expansion. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #36

The federal subsidies kick in at 100% - 400% of the FPL. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #50

133% of FPL Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #86

The subsidies start at 100%. The Medicaid expansion was up to 138%. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #97

Medicaid was intended to be a 100% subsidy Ms. Toad Oct 2013 #93

What specifically is your additional cost? nobodyspecial Oct 2013 #115

You need to read the conversations upthread. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #168

"Whatever" No, not whatever,this fits in with plan to make it SaveAmerica Oct 2013 #325

this is health INSURANCE not health CARE. never forget that minor detail nt msongs Oct 2013 #29

Thank you. n/t Cerridwen Oct 2013 #33

Well, yeah, I still got emergency rooms if I need one. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #35

You will not have to pay a penalty. Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #41

Yeah, it is small comfort, but at least I'm not losing on the deal. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #46

Community health clinics funded by the feds will STILL exist. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #125

You're basically screwed by South Carolina's decision not to expand Medicaid. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #49

That wasn't quite the decision Yo_Mama Oct 2013 #104

Sorry, by "SC" I meant South Carolina. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #152

So, 1 against, 200 million for. jazzimov Oct 2013 #51

Ouch... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #68

I'm glad me doing without is a game for you. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #79

I believe this poster thinks your disappointment is an attack on President Obama. cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #88

I'd chose some different words to describe him. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #94

"Favorite Group: Barack Obama" 1000words Oct 2013 #112

If you think it through...you are not a young person. You probably SHOULD have insurance Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #139

he makes TOO LITTLE to qualify for subsidies RedRocco Oct 2013 #333

kinda like the fed employees being out of work was a game for you? Egnever Oct 2013 #148

if I'm not mistaken the government shut down Whisp Oct 2013 #153

Yeah... FUCK Skip, right? He ain't "on board" (and according to you he's the ONLY one). cherokeeprogressive Oct 2013 #80

You never pass up an opportunity to be hateful, do you? QC Oct 2013 #99

What an obnoxious thing to say n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #109

That was really grossly insensitive, not to mention unbelievably rude n/t markpkessinger Oct 2013 #127

200 million until they see their deductibles NoOneMan Oct 2013 #128

What a disgusting comment. Medicaid hasn't been expanded in my state... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #136

although I agree it is fairly rude to say. I sort of know why you said it Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #140

Aren't you clever 1000words Oct 2013 #145

8 million others are *losers,* too. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #154

This part of the "gaggle" has said nothing anti-Obama ever... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #155

then I definitely wasn't addressing you. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #157

Don't excuse it and it possibly won't happen. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #159

that person has six months to find a solution Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #164

And the 7,999,999 others? Flood blue states, while... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #174

then those people need to band together with a coalition in red states to demand Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #176

We have. Moral Mondays, led by Dr. Barber of the NC NAACP. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #178

Wow...Just...really wow. I am speechless that DUers can be that shitty to each other. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #188

right now, it looks like a bunch of DU'ers are brainstorming ways for skip intro to be in a better Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #193

No. You're defending the indefensible. Sorry. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #196

A quick look at your transparency page ... 1000words Oct 2013 #167

I am a pretty good judge. I just chose to cross the line in the past. if you go read those hidden Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #171

I know I can go 140 posts without breaking the rules 1000words Oct 2013 #185

I also got more than 140 posts without a hide. Big deal Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #187

It will indeed 1000words Oct 2013 #194

juries are ok. I will give back to the community by alerting on garbage. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #203

It was cruel. 8 million won't be insured... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #160

I really want to vomit at this point. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #163

I'm with ya. We get rid of that fucking asshole MichiganDem... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #169

It's a Blue Team vs Red Team frenzy right now leftstreet Oct 2013 #179

Honestly. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #189

I'm thankful for this thread... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #263

There is more laughter below at the situation people are finding themselves in. Dragonfli Oct 2013 #273

The only LOL is at those who claim Obama and the Democratic Party... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #279

Albert Einstein is going to vomit on your shoes if you keep acting boorishly. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #216

Way to kick someone when they're down. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2013 #228

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #283

If you lived in a Medicaid expansion state, you would have health insurance. roamer65 Oct 2013 #59

This is very odd.. I checked the ACA calculator SoCalDem Oct 2013 #62

I may call someone eventually, before the first of the year. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #66

What's not right is SC's decision not to expand Medicaid. Barack_America Oct 2013 #67

+100 truebluegreen Oct 2013 #73

I got this LynnTTT Oct 2013 #78

Saw that on a local news station. Skip Intro Oct 2013 #81

Alaska is also currently a non-Medicaid expansion state, Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #84

Better luck in the next life kenny blankenship Oct 2013 #89

In many other states he'd be eligible for Medicaid. pnwmom Oct 2013 #92

Yeah, the "Pine Box Plan" kenny blankenship Oct 2013 #96

Not in the expanded Medicaid states. Nye Bevan Oct 2013 #151

"Maybe you'll be reborn in Canada" ProSense Oct 2013 #95

Do states not run by callous people have $0 deductibles and 0% copays? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #131

They have Medicaid ProSense Oct 2013 #135

Yep. Real world stuff. Thanks for the kind wishes. n/t Skip Intro Oct 2013 #105

Are you not a fan of the ACA, which would have qualified you for Medicaid, pnwmom Oct 2013 #91

I'm not a fan of either. Why should I be? Skip Intro Oct 2013 #100

When the ACA was written, no one had any idea that the states would refuse pnwmom Oct 2013 #107

That is the real face of the republican party, and the media should be blasting this lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #172

Nobody could have foreseen that the red states would refuse? winter is coming Oct 2013 #220

Medicaid money that they had to pay for ANYWAY with their Federal taxes? pnwmom Oct 2013 #222

How many times have we seen Republicans defy logic to follow ideology? winter is coming Oct 2013 #251

Until the Supreme Court bullshit? They wouldn't have. Orangepeel Oct 2013 #244

Wouldn't a constitutional scholar....nevermind n/t leftstreet Oct 2013 #229

What would the precedent have been? How many states pnwmom Oct 2013 #230

Maybe should have kept the Public Option? leftstreet Oct 2013 #232

A few critical votes were against the public option, unfortunately. pnwmom Oct 2013 #234

The public option would not address people like the OP, screwed by their idiot state government. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #238

Idiot countries like Canada just don't understand our bipartisan love of predatory insurance Dragonfli Oct 2013 #245

Not my point. But whatever. Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #246

I understood your point, that is all part of the freedom we have here. Dragonfli Oct 2013 #247

Color me shocked Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #103

Take a look up thread to post #51. 1000words Oct 2013 #120

That's the plan I'd have had Warpy Oct 2013 #108

That's terrible. historylovr Oct 2013 #110

There's nothing to stop you from buying insurance on the open market. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #113

Only problem is most of those crap high-deductible plans you used to be able to get... Barack_America Oct 2013 #116

this is very disheartening to hear grasswire Oct 2013 #119

This is the result of actions by asshole Governors. ProSense Oct 2013 #122

I realize that. grasswire Oct 2013 #143

Built in a "contigencies" to an unknown SCOTUS decision? ProSense Oct 2013 #144

Here's some good information ProSense Oct 2013 #149

Unfortunately you're in a state SoCalNative Oct 2013 #123

I think you misunderstand what deductible means Cicada Oct 2013 #129

I live in Mo. wendylaroux Oct 2013 #133

That is why it is the job of every Democrat to expose this through the media. lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #175

I Believe There is a Maximum Premium Cap on Premiums Which Can not Exceed 9.5% of Taxable Income Indykatie Oct 2013 #162

That is true. In addition, if 8% of your income exceeds the premium on the Bronze plan, you have an lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #170

Unbelieveable, Democrats might as well write off most of the South permanently quinnox Oct 2013 #177

Don't they always? leftstreet Oct 2013 #181

Yes, re-electing Republicans will solve this problem. ProSense Oct 2013 #186

I am utterly shocked by the attitudes of a couple of people in this thread. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #191

I'm more shocked by the Republicans in South Carolina who ProSense Oct 2013 #199

No, ProSense. The attitudes of "Good Dems here is far, far, FAR more shocking. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #202

"I expect Republicans to act like that. " ProSense Oct 2013 #205

Just ick. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #209

The problem is the state refused to expand Medicaid. ProSense Oct 2013 #213

Again, really read what I have written to you ProSense... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #214

Please ProSense Oct 2013 #217

Thanks for trying and also for reaffirming what a liberal is and how some still post here Dragonfli Oct 2013 #227

Thanks Dragonfli, I appreciate that. I don't look at politics as a football game, like ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #261

I hear you, it is contemptible. To put loyalty to a politician over basic human empathy quinnox Oct 2013 #200

The President's health care law offers Medicaid to low income Americans ProSense Oct 2013 #204

Yes there is a class issue, cul de sac Democrats do not relate, not at all, they just assume Dragonfli Oct 2013 #223

exactly, good post quinnox Oct 2013 #226

+1 leftstreet Oct 2013 #233

Spot on. nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #235

it seems many don't understand what it is to be REALLY poor. there's not a dollar left over for KG Oct 2013 #242

Another way to ProSense Oct 2013 #249

Fuck who now? Not what I was addressing, but you knew that and just wanted to find a way to Dragonfli Oct 2013 #253

More spin ProSense Oct 2013 #255

Still not even close to addressing the problem I pointed out when you refered to ME Dragonfli Oct 2013 #257

Really? ProSense Oct 2013 #258

pot, meet my friend kettle Heddi Oct 2013 #295

No, ProSense Oct 2013 #297

Or they scream BUT BUT BUT SUBSIDIES!!!! Heddi Oct 2013 #293

Thank you for your reply, it reveals to me that you have a real world understanding of a reality Dragonfli Oct 2013 #304

Well before I was a nurse, I was a child who grew up in a working poor household Heddi Oct 2013 #305

I came from a similar background, we went from lower middle class to struggling poor when my Dragonfli Oct 2013 #309

and, I meant to say in my post, thank YOU Heddi Oct 2013 #306

That's the first time I have ever been specifically thanked for pointing out the obvious Dragonfli Oct 2013 #310

Well I'm not ignoring you, and I never will Heddi Oct 2013 #312

That's just it, you are among those that are the solution, and StILL must play that role as possible Dragonfli Oct 2013 #316

How exactly would the Public Option address the OP's problem? Warren Stupidity Oct 2013 #239

We never had enough votes for the public option, because we required pnwmom Oct 2013 #300

$10,000 In Income Makes You Eligible for Medicaid Even if SC Did NOT Expand Medicaid Indykatie Oct 2013 #180

NOT TRUE. winter is coming Oct 2013 #207

Yep, I did a search and found the same thing. In most states that I saw $10,000 a year is way above quinnox Oct 2013 #208

There are some special cases in a handful of those states, indicated by footnotes in the table I winter is coming Oct 2013 #211

"In some states, you can't even make more than $3,000 to qualify!" ProSense Oct 2013 #252

Thanks for sharing that link. WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #265

That's lame. ZombieHorde Oct 2013 #206

You should address all of your anger at 1) The Supreme Court 2) State of South Carolina grantcart Oct 2013 #225

hang in there SI! Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #236

It sucks that your governor sucks. It's status quo for you. No penalty. Orangepeel Oct 2013 #243

Status Quo with the twist that options cheaper than offered on the exchange have all been replaced Dragonfli Oct 2013 #248

That's simply bullshit! n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #250

No it isn't - deny and deflect and now call the truth lies? you are on a roll Dragonfli Oct 2013 #254

Again, ProSense Oct 2013 #256

Can you cite some examples of those "cheaper alternatives" tabasco Oct 2013 #262

Ask the person being screwed that had found them previously Dragonfli Oct 2013 #269

Lots of examples B2G Oct 2013 #285

I never have been a fan, for this very reason. LWolf Oct 2013 #260

If you got a Bronze plan for $0 madville Oct 2013 #264

yeah, that's something that I thought last night, but didn't type in my response above Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #266

can't speak for Skip, but I wouldn't be able to justabob Oct 2013 #288

Its the same for me, Skip. bunnies Oct 2013 #270

Caught something earlier today that made me think of you.. Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #271

Thank you for thinking of me. bunnies Oct 2013 #277

hope this helps you! income based care in your area! Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #275

At least you were able to log in and find out your legally mandated options. Pterodactyl Oct 2013 #276

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #278

Bronze, Silver or Gold CountAllVotes Oct 2013 #282

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #289

Take it up with your Governor. SC would not support expanding Medicaid. Left money on the table kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #294

To be fair GladRagDahl Oct 2013 #302

Not a good excuse. ProSense Oct 2013 #303

West Virginia consistently carries a budget surplus GladRagDahl Oct 2013 #334

They need to create an affordable plan for 'those in the cracks' B2G Oct 2013 #299

So it looks like your complaint has been thoroughly refuted. gulliver Oct 2013 #301

All his problems are now solved due to the benevolent magic of spin Dragonfli Oct 2013 #311

SUBSIDIES!!11!!! Heddi Oct 2013 #313

Gratitude - his lack of it is yet another of his many character flaws. Dragonfli Oct 2013 #315

I didn't claim his problem was solved. gulliver Oct 2013 #317

He is still screwed, nothing at all was solved, all I saw was a ritualistic washing of the hands Dragonfli Oct 2013 #318

Again with the spin. gulliver Oct 2013 #319

His complaint is about being screwed and there will be several millions more like him, there will be Dragonfli Oct 2013 #320

Dang that Obama and his stupid ACA! gulliver Oct 2013 #321

As I have said before and I will say again, MindMover Oct 2013 #327

You can try establishing a medical savings account, but don't touch the money. bluestate10 Oct 2013 #330

Skip, Lumberjack Jeff's advice above is the key. Try estimating your 2014 income as $12,000 per year stevenleser Oct 2013 #335