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O yes. texanwitch Oct 2013 #1
You sound as if you're assuming the majority of the Dems are reluctant to play along. Jackpine Radical Oct 2013 #2
We know who really owns the congress. texanwitch Oct 2013 #5
This whole thing.... sendero Oct 2013 #131
Who's "our Tennessee friend?" Fawke Em Oct 2013 #135
I believe that would be me....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #145
I Keep Saying This... stuckinodi Oct 2013 #3
at least we'll be nutritious corkhead Oct 2013 #20
Soylent Green JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #70
Yummm.. In pies! Squinch Oct 2013 #152
Could be.... KoKo Oct 2013 #4
Just said the same to a friend today Flo Mingo Oct 2013 #6
Thanks for the input and welcome to DU....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #24
That is attributed to Carl Rove: bvar22 Oct 2013 #26
That's it Flo Mingo Oct 2013 #40
Proud Member of the Reality Based Community ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #48
My OP was postulated as a possibility........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #56
Excellent explanation! bvar22 Oct 2013 #75
You're welcome. Coming from you bvar.... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #78
Indeed. 2naSalit Oct 2013 #85
Thanks for y'all's support........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #95
I agree 2naSalit Oct 2013 #99
Agreed. It's like I said below to the poster who said it didn't seem "mysterious"...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #101
And I must say 2naSalit Oct 2013 #102
You think it's a possibility we'll be "gutting Medicare and the Social Security system"... ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #100
What happens when they use the debt ceiling to "force" Obama....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #103
I repeat - the debt ceiling will not be used. Period. ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #110
As to most of your responses...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #122
TOP does not protect workers, or humans, or the planet. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #119
That's argument by assertion. State your reasoning/Cite your sources. N/T ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #128
Well see, that's the problem with negotiations in secret....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #129
Go read what is available about it. I should not have to do your research. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #149
BTW, as to my open political affiliation........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #123
Actually, Mr. Oxymoron, KamaAina Oct 2013 #146
Oh, you're correct. My bad. ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2013 #148
Karl Rove has got reality handed to him in the ass. Rozlee Oct 2013 #73
True. Here he is on Election Night, 2012... KansDem Oct 2013 #126
Heh. Rozlee Oct 2013 #134
It has never been clearly established.. sendero Oct 2013 #132
It was Turdblossom, I believe tavalon Oct 2013 #111
I hope not, but I can see the possibility quinnox Oct 2013 #7
Yes. texanwitch Oct 2013 #12
I hope you're wrong and I'm right malaise Oct 2013 #8
So do I malaise, so do I. HOWEVER....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #19
Point of order nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #29
As a veteran of the Vietnam anti-war movement....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #44
You just about covered it Oilwellian Oct 2013 #9
The 'Boys' have been using the same playbook since Mein Kampf formercia Oct 2013 #10
It's too transparent to be shock, IMO ... Auggie Oct 2013 #11
A mystery for whom?........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #17
We're supposed to be grateful we got to keep our precious RandiFan1290 Oct 2013 #13
Money rules for both parties. texanwitch Oct 2013 #14
Well, I for one, won't give up........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #22
It will take one hell of a fight. texanwitch Oct 2013 #25
the farm bill has expired questionseverything Oct 2013 #88
The wave of the future. texanwitch Oct 2013 #93
Grand Bargain AND TPP. dgibby Oct 2013 #15
The Grand Betrayal" according to Economics Professor William K. Black: KoKo Oct 2013 #107
"Obama sees inflicting the “Grand Bargain” on the Nation as his means of achieving his legacy" cui bono Oct 2013 #113
... Zorra Oct 2013 #16
Coming closer all the time Fox...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #23
If this is the case, we will KNOW the current "crisis" is nothing but a setup duffyduff Oct 2013 #18
both parties get to throw a temper tantrum to please their base, and the Grand Bargain will make liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #21
So all this is one big charade heaven05 Oct 2013 #38
The last few days jitters about Debt Ceiling aside, Wall St. loves the Sequester and The Deal leveymg Oct 2013 #27
Yes they do..... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #52
Almost all of the DoD civilian workforce are being called back. leveymg Oct 2013 #58
The Pattern is there for those who choose to see. bvar22 Oct 2013 #28
Looks about right Benton D Struckcheon Oct 2013 #30
I said it days ago. grasswire Oct 2013 #31
"COUP" is the active word. pangaia Oct 2013 #36
I am afraid you are right. zeemike Oct 2013 #32
Precisely what I have been thinking. Get ready for Obama's "Chained CPI" and the GOP's increase NorthCarolina Oct 2013 #33
And possibly the gutting of all the positive reforms in the ACA, leaving only the mandate. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #34
Absolutely. If they take the next step we are in BIG trouble. jwirr Oct 2013 #35
You're not the only one who is considering this possibility. The answser sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #37
K&R. Those are just the problems we know about. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #39
They are mad they didn't get their last war they wanted so bad. texanwitch Oct 2013 #41
You might be right but I hope you are wrong! (I HATE it when I am right about such things.) joanbarnes Oct 2013 #42
Yep, I hope I'm wrong too. But...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #50
I have a similar theory, but not quite the same one Jack Rabbit Oct 2013 #43
Well, I still think they're after ALL of the above...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #47
I was wondering where you guys were.. busterbrown Oct 2013 #45
Well pretty much every one of those items listed..... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #49
If Obama has been such a "chess master" then why is there a sequester? cui bono Oct 2013 #114
Our govt. was gonna get shut down and a deal was devised that hurt both parties, but it kept the gov busterbrown Oct 2013 #117
I disagree with your assessment. cui bono Oct 2013 #136
You got it, dude Taverner Oct 2013 #46
I honestly think it's been going on too long for that... LaydeeBug Oct 2013 #51
If Obama uses the 14th Amendment, it will go a long way to establishing rule by Presidential Decree FarCenter Oct 2013 #53
Do know how many times this has been predicted around here? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #54
The last budget "crisis" brought us the sequester..... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #59
Describe this "sequester-like event" ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #60
A sequester-like event like a "Grand Bargain"....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #69
"Grand bargin" isn't specific. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #71
Grand Bargain isn't specific?......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #74
Both parties have been having a hard time selling cuts to SS. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #147
Obama is winning, and it's killing these guys. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #61
I'm waiting for them to say Putin (not Obama) is kicking Boehner's but here. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #64
Hey man! Help us help Obama stand up against these programs!....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #72
Obama is winning? We have the Ryan Budget! We have a Grand Bargin in doc03 Oct 2013 #83
Unfortunately, basing things on what he's SAID......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #96
I wonder what is taking them so long to do those things, Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #55
No problem. Your last sentence says it all. HOWEVER.......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #57
Don't fool yourself: Obama got exactly what he wanted in Syria - Syria is now neutralized leveymg Oct 2013 #67
See ... Boehner and Obama are in cahoots. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #68
Don't they both support the TPP and chained CPI?......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #80
Show me when Obama went on TV and told the American people that JoePhilly Oct 2013 #104
It isn't a prediction Oilwellian Oct 2013 #106
So its not something Obama is selling to the American people as needed. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #108
I'll predict that UNLESS the American people rise up en masse........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #130
The Republicans proved long ago sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #62
Baby Boomers HockeyMom Oct 2013 #63
Why would politicians who want to keep the ACA treestar Oct 2013 #65
There is no Logic in the reasoning being used, just a bunch whose political party gets little Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #76
And I'm glad those two scary cats are in waiting treestar Oct 2013 #90
We'll see what happens........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #77
Where do you think the money for the "subsidies" comes from? bvar22 Oct 2013 #84
That's the point, to buy insurance treestar Oct 2013 #89
"That's the point, to BUY insurance"... from Private, For Profit Corporations, bvar22 Oct 2013 #91
The insurance is not worthless treestar Oct 2013 #92
bvar didn't say the insurance is worthless, he said that the industry is useless. cui bono Oct 2013 #115
Of course the insurance isn't 'worthless' . . . markpkessinger Oct 2013 #138
Distractions or not, they are trying to do this everyday. raouldukelives Oct 2013 #66
In my most humble fredamae Oct 2013 #79
Oh, I agree. The end game has been coming for decades........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #81
It's also keeping the Tea Party frothy and away from TPP stuffmatters Oct 2013 #82
"The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance" Phlem Oct 2013 #86
Classic Shock Doctrine/Disaster Capitalism for which ACA obstructionism was a SMOKECREEN to obscure Faryn Balyncd Oct 2013 #87
Yeah, see that the thing. Your links show some of the trails of my thinking...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #97
Recommend.. KoKo Oct 2013 #141
Sure looking that way to me 1000words Oct 2013 #94
And in keeping with the theme of this thread........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #98
Pretty close. TSD I think usually refers to the aftermath of some complete disaster Doctor_J Oct 2013 #105
K&R woo me with science Oct 2013 #109
Okay, she's been on my list for a long time tavalon Oct 2013 #112
I read it. Then came the Eurozone crisis BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #139
I fear you are correct. And I got sucked into this game they're playing as well. cui bono Oct 2013 #116
You betcha, can't waste a good disaster. WCLinolVir Oct 2013 #118
They are ready for the people to rise up. This will only end after they kill a lot of people. \/ L0oniX Oct 2013 #120
Capitalists only see the opportunity, never the disaster bigbrother05 Oct 2013 #121
It's all good. Octafish Oct 2013 #124
Yep. And in general I just call Disaster Capitalism............ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #125
Shock Doctrine ewagner Oct 2013 #127
good to see you posting socialist_n_TN. With all the centrist democrats on this site, we need some liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #133
Why thank you lib....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #143
Let me chime in here and thank you, too, because we're on the same page. Nay Oct 2013 #150
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #137
I certainly hope not. kentuck Oct 2013 #140
Link to full docu BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #142
IN A NUTSHELL!!!!!!!!! That's exactly WHY I posted this... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #144
Post-shutdown-shock BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #153
If they are thinking about trying it, they will get run out of town with pitchforks. The people are silvershadow Oct 2013 #151
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