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liberalhistorian

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45. I'm sorry, but I gave up on the Nation

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 11:27 PM

Oct 2013

quite awhile ago. It is always negative, always critical, never satisfied with anything, always demanding complete and total fealty to their every single belief with an "our way or the highway" attitude or the candidate/politician would get the "conformist", "corporatist", "centrist", "RW hack", etc., etc., labels thrown on them; no sense of the realities of politics and what is actually possible, always tearing down and criticizing rather than trying to come up with actual, positive ways to change things and make the differences that they say they want. I could go on and on.

They are, as usual, wrong about HRC. She is far more in touch with real politics and the public mood than they are, again as usual. And their ridiculous, overwrought hand-wringing over an alleged "coronation" of her and other similar stupid wacko nonsense is equally annoyuing and just shows that I'm not missing much at all by having given them up.

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The Nation: Hillary Clinton: It�s Not Her Turn [View all] marmar Oct 2013 OP

If she gets in the race there will be a coronation of her? I should not have read this OP Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #1

But anointing Clinton now isn�t just anti-democratic; it paints a big sign on the party�s door: No djean111 Oct 2013 #2

+100 truebluegreen Oct 2013 #4

The party is moving left, and trending younger. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #11

I don't get that either. RC Oct 2013 #31

I agree but still, I think she would win handily. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #35

Anecdote, not Data: None of my three children would vote for her, nor their signifcant others. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #36

I have one too Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #37

There were lots of Republican women who wanted Hillary, PUMA's all were on the Right. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #38

agreed, that is pretty funny AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #40

I agree davidpdx Oct 2013 #44

Martin O'Malley. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #48

I agree. It's time to start electing people who are not the first choice of sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #20

You want people to think before they vote? RC Oct 2013 #33

Campaign Finance Reform would change this nation. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #34

Hear! Hear! Roland99 Oct 2013 #22

there is no annointing arely staircase Oct 2013 #25

Wouldn't it be funny JNelson6563 Oct 2013 #3

This is the time when she and her supporters are testing the waters. djean111 Oct 2013 #6

Oh I still think it'd be hilarious. JNelson6563 Oct 2013 #10

Then it is just as hilarious that there is already a million dollar PAC and Emily's List out djean111 Oct 2013 #13

I'd be pretty relieved too. JNelson6563 Oct 2013 #17

I would breathe a sigh of relief. magical thyme Oct 2013 #7

I would prefer her over Andrew Cuomo who is very likely to run if she doesn't. adirondacker Oct 2013 #47

Yeh, super rich Third Way white folks simply won't make the most appealing Democratic Presidential Zorra Oct 2013 #5

do you have any idea how popular she is among the democratic base (regular primary voters) arely staircase Oct 2013 #26

My whole 20+ extended family will go door to door for Hillary coldmountain Oct 2013 #27

After we elect Wendy Davis governor arely staircase Oct 2013 #28

It's going to be tempting for a lot of Democrats to choose her. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #8

''but she doesn't truly stand for anything.'' Whisp Oct 2013 #29

If Hillary doesn't run the next President will be Rand Paul DURHAM D Oct 2013 #9

Rand Paul? Never happen. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #12

They will vote. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #14

They haven't yet. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #16

Only if the GOP decides to support same-sex marriage, legal pot, and abortion starroute Oct 2013 #21

Quit trying to scare people with Rand Paul. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #15

That's a natural progression (excuse the verb!) from saying "But ROMNEY! PALIN! MCCAIN!" djean111 Oct 2013 #18

So your theory is that people will vote for the most anti-establishment candidate, hughee99 Oct 2013 #23

That's the choice - Rand or HRC? Silly. polichick Oct 2013 #24

Why would Hillary attract millennials, independents, and anti-establishment types? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #32

She won't but DURHAM D Oct 2013 #42

Governor Martin O'Malley. Maryland is at pre-recession employment levels... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2013 #39

Trumka/Krugman JaneyVee Oct 2013 #19

Clinton Bad; Warren Good LuvLoogie Oct 2013 #30

And unsurprisingly the better candidate isn't proffered. joshcryer Oct 2013 #41

She's still going to run. If not it's Joe's turn. craigmatic Oct 2013 #43

I'm sorry, but I gave up on the Nation liberalhistorian Oct 2013 #45

Yes, as an example... Oilwellian Oct 2013 #46