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In reply to the discussion: Beginning of the End for Major Health Insurers [View all]Hoyt
(54,770 posts)51. At best insurers will morph into just administrators like they've been for Medicare since inception.
Insurance companies administer Medicaid and Medicare. In fact, under Medicare, they offer plans that 28% of beneficiaries have chosen over traditional Medicare. Most states, place Medicaid beneficiaries in private insururance plans. The government makes the general rules, and the insurance companies administer things.
The government is not going to invest the tens of billions in the systems needed to administer these programs.
And, another nice thing, insurance companies are the ones having the take the risk of covering 30 - 40 million uninsured, rather than the government.
Finally, while it is detestable when insurance companies decline care that appears necessary for sick people, there is no way to just open it up to providers to decide what patients need if the providers profit off the services. Too many would order an MRI, every lab test possible, etc., on every patient. The system would actually go broke like that.
I think these insurance/administrative companies should be paid a reasonable fee for doing these "administrative" things, but not profit directly from denying services. And I think that is where the writing is on the wall for insurance companies as we know them.
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I agree, I think insurers are worried about people leaving their plans in droves for better deals
notadmblnd
Oct 2013
#2
I will add that they cost the healthcare system even more than is apparent
Jackpine Radical
Oct 2013
#9
Current Masturbatory Practices Of Financial Analysts Do Not Impress Me, Sir
The Magistrate
Oct 2013
#15
If "the Current Masturbatory Practices Of Financial Analysts Do Not Impress" you,
bvar22
Oct 2013
#32
I don't disagree with what Potter is saying now, but he apparently did OK screwing people
Hoyt
Oct 2013
#36
I think they will end up morphing into Federally regulated servicers for single payer.
tridim
Oct 2013
#7
It's as if they never knew anything about how insurance companies work.
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#24
Excellent points. I would add that Litigation and Trial lawyers would take a serious hit in income
adirondacker
Oct 2013
#68
Good example of a Slippery Slope...with the ACA their profits are capped at 20%...down from 40%
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#23
Putting the insurance companies out of business in one fell swoop would have been impossible,
Nye Bevan
Oct 2013
#25
Oh yes, and keep the articles coming about single payer...keep tipping the Slope
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#29
Thanks for the info. At least it's a start. I still think there are a lot more surpises along the
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#38
Ah, but being an optimist I hope that we will be more aware?? or militant?? but most of all educated
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#55
When a cancer patient has medical bills of tens of thousands of dollars per month,
Nye Bevan
Oct 2013
#31
Our customer service rep at regence blue cross said that none of them would be without a job because
DeschutesRiver
Oct 2013
#34
Do you think the trial lawyer lobby will allow for it? I have my doubts. nt
adirondacker
Oct 2013
#70
My personal view is simply that, on balance, it is better than what went before.
Jackpine Radical
Oct 2013
#61
At best insurers will morph into just administrators like they've been for Medicare since inception.
Hoyt
Oct 2013
#51
More likely, health insurance companies will merge until there are only a few left in each state.
FarCenter
Oct 2013
#65
That decribes Kaiser Permanente in Northern California. Affordable, mostly good service,
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#87
you are living in a dream, but enjoy. Insurance companies got to help write ACA.
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2013
#74
Highly recommend, and the beginning of the unncessary middlemen aka thugs begins.
Jefferson23
Oct 2013
#94
"four of the biggest for-profits, are not planning to participate in many of the marketplaces"
IronLionZion
Oct 2013
#104