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BainsBane

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117. Where did I say men were the only issue?

Reply to davidn3600 (Reply #115)

Mon Oct 7, 2013, 02:28 AM

Oct 2013

In fact, I have explicitly said otherwise.

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30 Mindblowing Statistics About Americans Under The Age Of 30 [View all] dkf Oct 2013 OP

That is what happens when jobs are shipped overseas Bjorn Against Oct 2013 #1

Technology, outsourcing, globalization, greed. JaneyVee Oct 2013 #2

technology DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #60

It's certainly part of the equation The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #66

In furtherance of your point... Chan790 Oct 2013 #69

Great post thank you TeamPooka Oct 2013 #99

Outsourcing could be easily solved DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #85

Easy is a strong word The2ndWheel Oct 2013 #91

You assume so DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #122

If the fit hits the shan it won't be old farts in the street with Molotov Cocktails. nt rrneck Oct 2013 #3

That's why young men are the stat we examine. dkf Oct 2013 #4

This was one of the most sinister things you ever said. Lasher Oct 2013 #130

Truth.^^^ hedda_foil Oct 2013 #9

The very ingredients Caretha Oct 2013 #23

Yeah, Raffi Ella Oct 2013 #5

Not always the case aristocles Oct 2013 #6

Wow in Cleveland and Chicago no less. dkf Oct 2013 #8

I don't think there is a formula. Brigid Oct 2013 #39

... adirondacker Oct 2013 #51

No, three exceptions does not equal "'nuf said" RedCappedBandit Oct 2013 #16

"Data" is not the plural of anecdote n/t Fumesucker Oct 2013 #18

Since we all live at Lake Woebegone everyone's kids should be above average. nt lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #19

What was your family's gross income while these children were raised? DireStrike Oct 2013 #21

Sound like yuppie assholes. LeftyMom Oct 2013 #45

Guess so aristocles Oct 2013 #53

Silver spoons are great, eh? We need to raise your taxes. Scuba Oct 2013 #65

No silver spoons, just a work ethic aristocles Oct 2013 #67

And how do you get that type of jobs if your family is broke darkangel218 Oct 2013 #86

so he got a well paid job as financial advisor before graduating from college ? JI7 Oct 2013 #96

This message was self-deleted by its author enki23 Oct 2013 #101

so poor people don't have the right work ethic CreekDog Oct 2013 #124

They just seem oblivious to the rest of the world, don't they? nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #127

she has a boat too CreekDog Oct 2013 #128

well, I say congratulations renate Oct 2013 #79

Pleased to meet you. Allow me to introduce myself. I am Queen of May. Lasher Oct 2013 #129

What's their combined student loan debt? pscot Oct 2013 #49

parents probably paid for it JI7 Oct 2013 #56

maybe i ask what their parents do/did ? JI7 Oct 2013 #54

Notice how she doesn't answer your question. woolldog Oct 2013 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Oct 2013 #89

One family = anecdotal (even if great) SoCalDem Oct 2013 #62

Yes that's the answer. All young people should go into finance & real estate. Demit Oct 2013 #77

I'm glad your children are doing so well... last1standing Oct 2013 #84

"my kids are doing great, to hell with the rest!" Enrique Oct 2013 #93

Kind of an insensitive post, in context... nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #126

I have two sons, ages 30 and 26. SheilaT Oct 2013 #7

^ Wilms Oct 2013 #10

And this is a recipe for civil unrest nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #11

Yes it is. No question about it. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2013 #17

College enrollment for 19-25 year olds is at a record high bhikkhu Oct 2013 #12

Some of these stats need more perspective FreeJoe Oct 2013 #13

Yet there are many going to college in their older years. dkf Oct 2013 #15

College enrollment doesn't explain anything about #1 or #2 lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #20

Is there anything you don't blame on women? LeftyMom Oct 2013 #46

More strawmen. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #47

How is it blaming women? davidn3600 Oct 2013 #48

Ignorance isn't bliss, just ignorance theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #68

What would you propose to do about it? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #71

men chose quick money over education, and it backfires later- as you have noted. bettyellen Oct 2013 #72

Reasonable people can disagree about why men aren't going to college. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #73

See, you did that short term thinking about the value of an education yourself. bettyellen Oct 2013 #74

Yes, that's true. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #75

and the big asterisk would say men have habitually devalued work that women do. bettyellen Oct 2013 #76

Then do different work. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #78

I think it would be awesome if all the Moms in the world plopped their kids in Dad's lap and bettyellen Oct 2013 #80

It'd be even awesomer if she left the kids with dad and went to the machine shop. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #82

it would be awesome if we still have any machine shops left in 10 years. That is also a "thing". bettyellen Oct 2013 #94

just as awesome if men had recognized service industry jobs are very hard work- and compensated bettyellen Oct 2013 #98

The amount of hours worked or the danger of the job has nothing to do with the gender gap. Dash87 Oct 2013 #121

Do those stats take various other factors into account? davidn3600 Oct 2013 #87

Because even with a degree, women are still paid less. DebJ Oct 2013 #116

What about young men who went to college BECAUSE there weren't any jobs available anyway? DebJ Oct 2013 #118

Lots of adjustments needed to those numbers for them to be meaningful. Igel Oct 2013 #14

Here's the labor force participation rate for those 16 and over for the last 64 years. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #22

Because women and people of color should be excluded from the labor force BainsBane Oct 2013 #24

Who said anything about "white"? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #26

Have you ever taken a single history course in your life? BainsBane Oct 2013 #28

The civil rights act? You mean the one that made it illegal to pay a woman less than a man? lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #30

A lower social priority? BainsBane Oct 2013 #31

Simple yet unscientific lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #34

Make an argument BainsBane Oct 2013 #36

I was obviously not clear enough. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #41

I have advised BainsBain to put you on ignore so she will not be responding to you. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #44

Show the graph for wages of whites vs. people of color BainsBane Oct 2013 #25

Google works on your computer too. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #27

Okay, is it just women you want excluded from the workforce? BainsBane Oct 2013 #29

Maybe you did take the right exit, because you're clearly on strawman avenue. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #32

Honest people use honest arguments? BainsBane Oct 2013 #33

I dont see anyone suggesting women to leave the workforce davidn3600 Oct 2013 #37

You need to pay closer attention BainsBane Oct 2013 #38

How do you know that's how people view it? davidn3600 Oct 2013 #43

Because I have read some people's posts for BainsBane Oct 2013 #97

Honest people use honest arguments. Bonobo Oct 2013 #95

There are all kinds of people, BainsBane Oct 2013 #100

Yes, there are people so embittered that spewing bile is ALL they do. Bonobo Oct 2013 #102

Really? BainsBane Oct 2013 #103

Thanks for making it easy. nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #104

I know, those nasty xx chromosones BainsBane Oct 2013 #105

All you're doing is exposing what's going in YOUR skull. Bonobo Oct 2013 #106

You're the one who decided to come attack me BainsBane Oct 2013 #107

The fact that you THINK I did what you said I did shows how disrupted your thought process is. Bonobo Oct 2013 #108

You said being born male makes you and other males wage slaves BainsBane Oct 2013 #109

My OP was not about whether or not women work outside the home. Bonobo Oct 2013 #110

That point is false BainsBane Oct 2013 #111

"That point is false. It applies to a very small section of America today." Bonobo Oct 2013 #112

Assuming it applies to all American men vs women is false BainsBane Oct 2013 #113

That would be interesting if I really DID think it was Universal or claimed it to be so. Bonobo Oct 2013 #114

You assume it BainsBane Oct 2013 #119

The WHaaaat? Bonobo Oct 2013 #120

Very few households can survive on a single income these days davidn3600 Oct 2013 #115

Where did I say men were the only issue? BainsBane Oct 2013 #117

Zerohedge is totally unreliable. ProSense Oct 2013 #35

dkf using RW spin? nooooo way! dionysus Oct 2013 #50

Well if you think under 30's are doing fine then great. Yay congrats to our young people! dkf Oct 2013 #55

you need to try harder with your reinvention;we remember al the pro bankster and pro austerity posts dionysus Oct 2013 #58

Yeah should have let our financial system fail. dkf Oct 2013 #64

What do you think the real numbers are, Einstein? MrMickeysMom Oct 2013 #59

I don't find those statistics mind blowing at all doc03 Oct 2013 #40

The offshorers are going to reap the whirlwind Warpy Oct 2013 #52

Here's one that caught my eye... MrMickeysMom Oct 2013 #57

and while their parents love them, their being there is sapping the retirement possibilities SoCalDem Oct 2013 #63

I can't remember a time or generation llmart Oct 2013 #90

It's about the eligibility SoCalDem Oct 2013 #92

Sorry...you are still wrong on this. llmart Oct 2013 #125

We need a modern Works Progress Administration to employ these young people. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #61

Why don't they live 10 to a room and be willing to work 7 - 12 hour days for $1.89 a day... L0oniX Oct 2013 #70

And don't even think about organizing. lonestarnot Oct 2013 #81

What the seditious insurrectionists have done to my grand-children's generation is indepat Oct 2013 #83

I wonder how much of this is due to people working longer in order to WCGreen Oct 2013 #123