Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
4. it's curious
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 03:56 AM
Oct 2013

to me - the elision of reality.

I mean - it's okay for a group to meet and give marching orders to the teahadists who, overall, seem dumb as a box of rocks in some ways.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/us/a-federal-budget-crisis-months-in-the-planning.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2

Shortly after President Obama started his second term, a loose-knit coalition of conservative activists led by former Attorney General Edwin Meese III gathered in the capital to plot strategy. Their push to repeal Mr. Obama’s health care law was going nowhere, and they desperately needed a new plan.

Out of that session, held one morning in a location the members insist on keeping secret, came a little-noticed “blueprint to defunding Obamacare,” signed by Mr. Meese and leaders of more than three dozen conservative groups.

It articulated a take-no-prisoners legislative strategy that had long percolated in conservative circles: that Republicans could derail the health care overhaul if conservative lawmakers were willing to push fellow Republicans — including their cautious leaders — into cutting off financing for the entire federal government.

“We felt very strongly at the start of this year that the House needed to use the power of the purse,” said one coalition member, Michael A. Needham, who runs Heritage Action for America, the political arm of the Heritage Foundation. “At least at Heritage Action, we felt very strongly from the start that this was a fight that we were going to pick.”


So, basically, it's that bribery is legal if someone does it under the umbrella of a political organization, but illegal if someone does it one on one... even tho the consequences of the first situation are generally more harmful than the second?

Really. I was reading up on impeachment of House members and it made me wonder why some things are bribery and others aren't.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

No difference. nt Edim Oct 2013 #1
Actually, Edim Oct 2013 #3
I would agree JackInGreen Oct 2013 #19
bribery is when you give a politician money in exchange for them voting the way you want... Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #2
it's curious RainDog Oct 2013 #4
Ed Meese. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #5
Wedtech RainDog Oct 2013 #6
indeed. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #14
Meese was with the Heritage Foundation RainDog Oct 2013 #13
Meese is a pig RainDog Oct 2013 #21
Not much. Except that funding is earmarked for the politician's office or campaign; whereas bribery LeftishBrit Oct 2013 #7
blurred lines RainDog Oct 2013 #10
Qui observat custodes? - K&R :-| n/t DeSwiss Oct 2013 #8
the noble lie n/t RainDog Oct 2013 #9
Omnia sint unum. n/t DeSwiss Oct 2013 #11
maybe the NSA could look at stock positions RainDog Oct 2013 #12
Bribery is more honest, Alkene Oct 2013 #15
The difference? The appearance of legality. nt riqster Oct 2013 #16
Zero--no difference. hue Oct 2013 #17
McConnell wants Supreme Court to erase limits on bribery, err, funding, even by individuals. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #18
what a great idea! /snark n/t RainDog Oct 2013 #20
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»What's the difference bet...»Reply #4