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In reply to the discussion: Beginning of the End for Major Health Insurers [View all]leftstreet
(41,176 posts)107. The biggest impact is yet to come
By 2018 employers will have no incentive to contribute to decent insurance plans
9: What is a Cadillac Health Plan?
The PPACA imposes a 40 percent excise tax on Cadillac health insurance plans. This new tax will apply to health plans valued in excess of $10,200 for individuals and $27,500 for families. Those thresholds will grow annually by inflation plus 1 percent. The tax takes effect in 2018.
http://www.cpehr.com/affordable-care-act-obamacare-for-business
Obamacare attempts to change this dynamic. Under the law, health plans that cost over $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for a family will have to pay an excise tax of 40 percent on every dollar that they exceed that cutoff beginning in 2018. As Jonathan Gruber, an MIT economics professor who helped design the law, explained to the New York Times, the tax is meant to reorient the way that employers approach their workers health problems and their associated costs. Its focusing employers on cost control, not slashing, said Gruber.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/28/2064441/employers-obamacare-cut-wasteful-spending/
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/28/2064441/employers-obamacare-cut-wasteful-spending/
How Obamacare Is Encouraging Employers To Cut Wasteful Spending And Promote Workers Health
By Sy Mukherjee on May 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm
In an effort to cut wasteful U.S. medical spending, certain employers will be scaling back expensive health plans available to their employees and encouraging workers to pursue more preventative and ongoing primary care. The move is being prompted by Obamacare provisions that encourage a more cost-sensitive and efficient approach to Americans health care than the status quo.
Recently-released government data shows that Americans medical bills are completely random, with some hospitals charging as much as $100,000 more for the same services performed at other facilities. In turn, that drives up the costs of many private health plans, and increases companies spending on employer-sponsored insurance.
Obamacare attempts to change this dynamic. Under the law, health plans that cost over $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for a family will have to pay an excise tax of 40 percent on every dollar that they exceed that cutoff beginning in 2018. As Jonathan Gruber, an MIT economics professor who helped design the law, explained to the New York Times, the tax is meant to reorient the way that employers approach their workers health problems and their associated costs. Its focusing employers on cost control, not slashing, said Gruber.
Companies arent waiting until 2018 to shift their health care models. Some are increasing their use of high-deductible health plans (HDHPs) which charge workers low monthly premiums but high annual deductibles in an effort to raise employees awareness of how much their health care consumption costs.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/05/28/2064441/employers-obamacare-cut-wasteful-spending/
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I agree, I think insurers are worried about people leaving their plans in droves for better deals
notadmblnd
Oct 2013
#2
I will add that they cost the healthcare system even more than is apparent
Jackpine Radical
Oct 2013
#9
Current Masturbatory Practices Of Financial Analysts Do Not Impress Me, Sir
The Magistrate
Oct 2013
#15
If "the Current Masturbatory Practices Of Financial Analysts Do Not Impress" you,
bvar22
Oct 2013
#32
I don't disagree with what Potter is saying now, but he apparently did OK screwing people
Hoyt
Oct 2013
#36
I think they will end up morphing into Federally regulated servicers for single payer.
tridim
Oct 2013
#7
It's as if they never knew anything about how insurance companies work.
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#24
Excellent points. I would add that Litigation and Trial lawyers would take a serious hit in income
adirondacker
Oct 2013
#68
Good example of a Slippery Slope...with the ACA their profits are capped at 20%...down from 40%
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#23
Putting the insurance companies out of business in one fell swoop would have been impossible,
Nye Bevan
Oct 2013
#25
Oh yes, and keep the articles coming about single payer...keep tipping the Slope
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#29
Thanks for the info. At least it's a start. I still think there are a lot more surpises along the
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#38
Ah, but being an optimist I hope that we will be more aware?? or militant?? but most of all educated
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#55
When a cancer patient has medical bills of tens of thousands of dollars per month,
Nye Bevan
Oct 2013
#31
Our customer service rep at regence blue cross said that none of them would be without a job because
DeschutesRiver
Oct 2013
#34
Do you think the trial lawyer lobby will allow for it? I have my doubts. nt
adirondacker
Oct 2013
#70
My personal view is simply that, on balance, it is better than what went before.
Jackpine Radical
Oct 2013
#61
At best insurers will morph into just administrators like they've been for Medicare since inception.
Hoyt
Oct 2013
#51
More likely, health insurance companies will merge until there are only a few left in each state.
FarCenter
Oct 2013
#65
That decribes Kaiser Permanente in Northern California. Affordable, mostly good service,
libdem4life
Oct 2013
#87
you are living in a dream, but enjoy. Insurance companies got to help write ACA.
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2013
#74
Highly recommend, and the beginning of the unncessary middlemen aka thugs begins.
Jefferson23
Oct 2013
#94
"four of the biggest for-profits, are not planning to participate in many of the marketplaces"
IronLionZion
Oct 2013
#104