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127 pound girl-athlete given a "fat letter" to take home from school. [View all] pnwmom Oct 2013 OP

So what? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #1

So what? One of our extended family members died as a teen, from bulimia. pnwmom Oct 2013 #3

Absolutely! markpkessinger Oct 2013 #20

What a horror. Yes, dancers are particularly at risk. pnwmom Oct 2013 #24

Some of these responses are... redqueen Oct 2013 #25

Yeah, really. pnwmom Oct 2013 #38

Yeah, but against Americas number one killer on the opposite fence, hm NoOneMan Oct 2013 #41

How about the U.S. mail? Remember that? That's the better way to clue parents in. pnwmom Oct 2013 #47

Yeah, I agree with that. NoOneMan Oct 2013 #50

Except obesity isn't even In this picture. Scootaloo Oct 2013 #160

Doh! NoOneMan Oct 2013 #172

Or maybe the parents could do exactly what is done here Scootaloo Oct 2013 #177

" you DO sound as if you are arguing that the child is obese" NoOneMan Oct 2013 #181

Her parents are asking the school to stop sending the letters pnwmom Oct 2013 #190

Eating disorders are often fatal. That's what. Mariana Oct 2013 #35

As is eating too much NoOneMan Oct 2013 #42

How do you know that the letter wasn't a trigger for one of the other pnwmom Oct 2013 #51

Well oh boy we can make any shit up NoOneMan Oct 2013 #53

Right. Anorexia and bulimia are just made-up problems. pnwmom Oct 2013 #54

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #57

I'm not. I'm saying that you can't prove the opposite. pnwmom Oct 2013 #60

You can't prove pink unicorns don't fly NoOneMan Oct 2013 #66

Nasty. Sheldon Cooper Oct 2013 #127

I am 5'1 and 100 lbs. HockeyMom Oct 2013 #58

My elderly mother is tiny now. But she weighed more when she was stronger. pnwmom Oct 2013 #64

I weighed 98 lbs at 30 when I got pg with my first daughter HockeyMom Oct 2013 #106

I need to lose some weight, packed on about 25 pounds extra during a RKP5637 Oct 2013 #157

Actually, yes it does. jeff47 Oct 2013 #59

So this athlete specifically has an eating disorder from this letter now? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #69

So....can't handle basic probability then? jeff47 Oct 2013 #74

I can't handle making shit up so you can get outraged about it a hypothetical that isn't reality NoOneMan Oct 2013 #76

So you really can't handle basic probability then. jeff47 Oct 2013 #80

"Chance of letter leading to fat kid getting put on a diet: 0." NoOneMan Oct 2013 #83

Yes. jeff47 Oct 2013 #87

I was wrong in pretending differently than you and using different pretend statistics NoOneMan Oct 2013 #89

I'm sure digging downwards will get you out of that hole real soon now. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #93

But pretending you are winning a pretend argument wont NoOneMan Oct 2013 #95

The point the parents made was to MAIL the letters, not send them home with the kids. moriah Oct 2013 #128

Her parents very reasonably are trying to get the school district pnwmom Oct 2013 #82

You might want to do a little investigation into eating disorders. cui bono Oct 2013 #150

Oh brother. Get over yourself NoOneMan Oct 2013 #152

I'm not screaming. And I'm being realistic about a very real problem. cui bono Oct 2013 #155

And Im being realistic about a problem with today's youth facing early onset diabetes NoOneMan Oct 2013 #158

So what's your issue with the letter being sent by some method other than the student? cui bono Oct 2013 #162

Nothing NoOneMan Oct 2013 #165

Unfortunately, it's still easy to find sites like those online, pnwmom Oct 2013 #191

So this particular cigarette smoker has cancer from that cigarette now? n/t moriah Oct 2013 #122

My athletic teen has a slightly lower BMI than the girl in question she also has body image issues NotThisTime Oct 2013 #238

The vast majority of teen girls have dieted, whether or not they're overweight. pnwmom Oct 2013 #239

Thank you.... NotThisTime Oct 2013 #240

It's nice to read the posts here from men who get it. pnwmom Oct 2013 #75

She's 2. They're already trying to label her via BMI. jeff47 Oct 2013 #77

That sounds well-proportioned to me. pnwmom Oct 2013 #81

Compulsive overeating is an eating disorder as well. moriah Oct 2013 #120

Except if you worked for THIS school district, HockeyMom Oct 2013 #55

Oh, wow. So it's going the way of drug testing -- test everyone, pnwmom Oct 2013 #73

You got it HockeyMom Oct 2013 #104

Douchebag post of the month. trumad Oct 2013 #91

Posts such as this can cause internet linked suicides NoOneMan Oct 2013 #94

2nd Douchebag post of the month. trumad Oct 2013 #100

Well, fuck. He hasn't responded to your second post. You suicided him. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #132

If I killed myself for someone calling me a douchebag on the internets... trumad Oct 2013 #141

I gave him big points for style. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #145

Hey, its all about probability. Girls starve themselves over school letters about their BMI NoOneMan Oct 2013 #154

you seem more like a nowhere man dude,,,,,,,,,,,, lunasun Oct 2013 #184

Maybe schools need to butt out. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #121

They tried that. Kids got fat. America got fat. America got sick. People died. Cost a fortune NoOneMan Oct 2013 #149

This is a STUPID way to get involved in issues like this. pnwmom Oct 2013 #234

So what? They might have just put an idea in that girl's head that she is too fat cui bono Oct 2013 #148

Yeah, it might have directly led to the 4th reich! Oh nooes NoOneMan Oct 2013 #151

I agree with your fashion/pop magazine comment. cui bono Oct 2013 #153

Worked up? This is hilarious NoOneMan Oct 2013 #163

We have to face it, we are a bunch of fat asses in this country quinnox Oct 2013 #2

That girl isn't a "fat ass" -- she's an athlete. The fat asses pnwmom Oct 2013 #4

this girl isn't. not even a tiny little bit. cali Oct 2013 #6

Except *she* isn't - she is an athlete, and they put her height in wrong. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #9

Photos show a distinct lack of fat ass: LadyHawkAZ Oct 2013 #10

Fine. I'm talking in general quinnox Oct 2013 #13

Thanks! n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #17

If she was in high school, and if I were a college recruiter. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #34

You can see her interview here. pnwmom Oct 2013 #40

I'm tempted to label anyone who thinks she is fat as an "idiot". LanternWaste Oct 2013 #39

Neither my coworker, nor I have fat ass HockeyMom Oct 2013 #133

You truly have no clue. She is a perfectly normal, healthy, athletic weight. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #12

see my post 13 quinnox Oct 2013 #15

But the first thing you did is say "we" shovel too much food into our children. pnwmom Oct 2013 #18

And even in cases where there is a genuine weight issue . . . markpkessinger Oct 2013 #26

Absolutely. Any letter like this should have gone directly to the parents. pnwmom Oct 2013 #29

I think it's probably a case of posting without reading BainsBane Oct 2013 #28

That girl is NOT a fat ass nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #37

So do you just not want her to get a letter or her AND "fat asses" too? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #200

The kid is not overweight by the BMI standard. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #203

Speak for yourself.. RedCappedBandit Oct 2013 #236

"Hey, FAT girl!" derby378 Oct 2013 #5

Ugh, the BMI LittleBlue Oct 2013 #7

Its sad they still use BMI. Undermines this stuff NoOneMan Oct 2013 #44

My favorite part about the stupidity that is BMI jeff47 Oct 2013 #63

Its a terrible chart built and mass distributed for the lazy... Decaffeinated Oct 2013 #146

Their screenings are obviously flawed BainsBane Oct 2013 #8

The article says they put her in as two inches shorter than she is. (nt) IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #11

Even at 2" shorter she is WELL within the normal range. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #14

Yet BMI doesn't distinguish fat from muscle BainsBane Oct 2013 #23

On the BMI she's still inside the "ideal" category. pnwmom Oct 2013 #27

huh. I don't know what the school was thinking then BainsBane Oct 2013 #30

I wonder if she is considered tall hfojvt Oct 2013 #16

I suggest you look at her picture. Not only is she NOT fat. she's slender cali Oct 2013 #19

And even if she were 5 foot 3 and 127, pnwmom Oct 2013 #22

Heck I'm 5'3" and weigh Aerows Oct 2013 #97

She isn't HockeyMom Oct 2013 #114

I had a friend in high school who was about your size pnwmom Oct 2013 #116

I looked at her picture, and she looked fine hfojvt Oct 2013 #61

I remember the boys like you. In 6th, I was 8 inches taller. pnwmom Oct 2013 #79

She is tall for an 11 year old girl. And could easily be half a foot taller pnwmom Oct 2013 #21

I think I'd let the parents thank the school for their misplaced concern and then just ignore it. HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #31

That's the best response yet. randome Oct 2013 #32

Why? The parents are doing other parents a favor by bringing this pnwmom Oct 2013 #36

There are some... redqueen Oct 2013 #43

It's discouraging. I really didn't expect it. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #45

First, it clearly was a mistake. Not a 'policy'. randome Oct 2013 #46

No, it wasn't a mistake that the letters were sent home with the kids. pnwmom Oct 2013 #48

No, the mistake was in classifying her as fat in the first place. randome Oct 2013 #49

Yes, it IS policy in Collier County HockeyMom Oct 2013 #56

It's policy to mis-identify someone as 'fat'? randome Oct 2013 #62

That's the policy I was talking about -- giving the letter to the kids. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #84

Collier County is looking for every way they can to identify HockeyMom Oct 2013 #105

That puts a different spin on things. randome Oct 2013 #125

The only "mistake" the school has acknowledged is putting her in as 2" shorter. jeff47 Oct 2013 #72

So the parents need to set them straight. randome Oct 2013 #96

The problem with your argument is there are situations beyond what you assume. jeff47 Oct 2013 #103

Apparently is IS too hard for some, which is why child obesity is a problem. randome Oct 2013 #124

Whoooosh jeff47 Oct 2013 #182

They've already come up with a better solution: measuring body fat, pnwmom Oct 2013 #185

Great post. This girl practices on two team sports 6 days a week. pnwmom Oct 2013 #183

They went to the school first and the school wouldn't change its practice. pnwmom Oct 2013 #139

You're right, there is something to be said for speaking one's mind. randome Oct 2013 #179

They're not trying to cash in. They're trying to prevent other girls from being hurt. pnwmom Oct 2013 #33

Whoever devised this program should be immediately terminated. Gravitycollapse Oct 2013 #52

And maybe the school administrators should be publicly weighed and measured. pnwmom Oct 2013 #67

The state needs to change and update the nurses' Ilsa Oct 2013 #65

That screening makes much more sense. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #70

I don't think kids younger than high school age should be fat shamed at all XemaSab Oct 2013 #68

You're right. Even pre-teens on the chubby side (which this girl isn't) pnwmom Oct 2013 #71

They shouldn't be fat-shamed, but they should Ilsa Oct 2013 #111

Collier County School District is corrupt HockeyMom Oct 2013 #78

Thanks for making the connection. I wasn't aware of a possible profit motive here. pnwmom Oct 2013 #86

In this country there is always a profit motive - ALWAYS TBF Oct 2013 #174

The hysterical handwringing over a "hurtful" letter is hilarious Azathoth Oct 2013 #85

She is actually in the "ideal" category on the height/weight charts pnwmom Oct 2013 #90

Actually, that's the wrong chart Azathoth Oct 2013 #99

At risk of what? Her BMI is in a normal range. LisaL Oct 2013 #164

lol, did you even follow the link? Azathoth Oct 2013 #166

I did follow the link. LisaL Oct 2013 #167

But apparently you didn't *read* the link Azathoth Oct 2013 #170

Oh great. LisaL Oct 2013 #173

Private doctors don't count HockeyMom Oct 2013 #109

Maybe I missed something Azathoth Oct 2013 #110

Why didn't they email or snail-mail the parents then? pnwmom Oct 2013 #119

There's no reason to keep it secret from her Azathoth Oct 2013 #129

Yes, there is. It should be up to the parents whether they distribute pnwmom Oct 2013 #136

So a statistic she can look up on the federal government's homepage is now double top secret? Azathoth Oct 2013 #143

Take a look at the child's photo. This child is not overweight. LisaL Oct 2013 #171

lol, you're not even aware what you're responding to. You're just spouting off. Azathoth Oct 2013 #176

It probably wouldn't have occurred to her to look for such a statistic pnwmom Oct 2013 #192

And probably old enough to have other meds and health education The Straight Story Oct 2013 #180

Girls don't need any further encouragement than they already get pnwmom Oct 2013 #193

You have NO idea what fat shaming in front of peers does to a preteen do you? laundry_queen Oct 2013 #205

The BMI is useless for such outliers RedCappedBandit Oct 2013 #237

We received an ad from JC Penney a few weeks ago. RC Oct 2013 #88

And most of those pictures have been photo-shopped. pnwmom Oct 2013 #92

None of them looked that bad. RC Oct 2013 #98

Even the ones with the missing limbs? pnwmom Oct 2013 #113

I was talking about a JC Penny ad. RC Oct 2013 #117

The Tinker-Toy model is exactly why the increase in breast augmentations. Gotta get fake fat. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #123

I kinda wondered about that. RC Oct 2013 #130

Right. The only natural way for most young women to have pnwmom Oct 2013 #137

Typical republican nanny state bs... ileus Oct 2013 #101

Naples, Florida, IS Teabagger, Rick Scott land HockeyMom Oct 2013 #108

They won't be happy until she's limp and anorexic, fashionably idle and unhealthy Warpy Oct 2013 #102

Medical Science cannot make skinny kids HockeyMom Oct 2013 #118

At this age laundry_queen Oct 2013 #206

We've get a huge problem with image vs substance Hydra Oct 2013 #107

I refused to be weighed, or measured, by the Collier County School District HockeyMom Oct 2013 #112

I hate judgmental assholes who think body size is equivalent to virtue. duffyduff Oct 2013 #115

Ugh, some really depressing responses in this thread. (nt) Posteritatis Oct 2013 #126

Schools need to butt out and stop testing kids for BMI alarimer Oct 2013 #131

+1000 HockeyMom Oct 2013 #135

dam i would have liked to have her on my soccer teams madrchsod Oct 2013 #134

One of the articles said she practices 6 days a week pnwmom Oct 2013 #138

she's overweight??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? dembotoz Oct 2013 #140

Right. That's the girl in the video. And she's not overweight at all, pnwmom Oct 2013 #142

One thing is clear. I'll bet the guys in her class are thinking "Wow..just Wow!" BlueJazz Oct 2013 #144

+1. nt pnwmom Oct 2013 #194

BMI is as worthless as John Boehner. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #147

A lot of insensitive asinine comments of this thread. My youngest was thick. seabeyond Oct 2013 #156

This is absolutely crazy. LisaL Oct 2013 #159

Much ado about nothing. Owl Oct 2013 #161

This has got to be the best one jmowreader Oct 2013 #168

Apparently a lot of responders to the OP didn't actually look at the gir's photo at the link. Hekate Oct 2013 #169

I saw it NoOneMan Oct 2013 #178

An exception? So she is the only child who participates in sports? LisaL Oct 2013 #186

She is 127 in 6th grade NoOneMan Oct 2013 #187

Not really. 127 pounds wouldn't make her fat even if she weren't an athlete. pnwmom Oct 2013 #189

Uh doh! NoOneMan Oct 2013 #197

LOTS of girls were bigger than you were. You might be big now, pnwmom Oct 2013 #196

No, not in 6th grade. That is very large for 6th grade NoOneMan Oct 2013 #198

Why is she supposed to be average? LisaL Oct 2013 #201

Who said she is supposed to be average? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #207

It isn't very large for a FEMALE 6th grader. pnwmom Oct 2013 #204

The chart I looked at was for girls NoOneMan Oct 2013 #208

The weight alone is MEANINGLESS. She's the height of many adult women, pnwmom Oct 2013 #211

There is nothing wrong with a girl of her height and weight pnwmom Oct 2013 #195

Who said there is anything wrong with that? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #199

You keep saying she's an outlier, but she isn't. pnwmom Oct 2013 #202

For the love of God, shes outside the middle of the bell curve for girls at that age NoOneMan Oct 2013 #209

Are you being obtuse on purpose? What possible good pnwmom Oct 2013 #210

Exactly. LisaL Oct 2013 #212

Her parents could toss it in the trash, explain why its not accurate, laugh a bit, reinforce her... NoOneMan Oct 2013 #215

They are teaching her a valuable lesson. When you encounter pnwmom Oct 2013 #217

Then again, they made a huge hub bub and could of transformed her to a laughing stock NoOneMan Oct 2013 #219

Did you watch her on the video? Going forward could not pnwmom Oct 2013 #221

"None of them should be getting these letters." NoOneMan Oct 2013 #213

NONE OF THEM should be handed these letters to take home. pnwmom Oct 2013 #214

Body fat testing is probably not feasible NoOneMan Oct 2013 #216

Of course it is. My son had body fat testing in a college PE class. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #218

With calipers? NoOneMan Oct 2013 #220

They used more than one method, but calipers would be the easiest pnwmom Oct 2013 #222

Its not precise at all NoOneMan Oct 2013 #223

BMI is BS! rdharma Oct 2013 #175

So what did the nutritionist on staff say? flvegan Oct 2013 #188

coach used to call us sissies, punks, maggots, fairies, all kinds of rotten names datasuspect Oct 2013 #224

The biggest defender of that letter here pnwmom Oct 2013 #226

Clearly coaches are all just evil people who give up all their free time to help young kids develop NoOneMan Oct 2013 #228

No, most of them aren't evil or ignorant or on power kicks. Just some. n/t pnwmom Oct 2013 #232

I worked in an libodem Oct 2013 #225

I bet there turns out to be a genetic risk factor as well, pnwmom Oct 2013 #227

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #229

BMI is junk science greatlaurel Oct 2013 #230

Thanks for your thoughtful and informative post, greatlaurel, pnwmom Oct 2013 #231

Thank you for the welcome greatlaurel Oct 2013 #241

... and yet male-athletes in high school football are walking walls ... Myrina Oct 2013 #233

BMI is such nonsense RedCappedBandit Oct 2013 #235