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In reply to the discussion: Octafish to attend JFK assassination conference. Do you think JFK still matters? [View all]Octafish
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Bill OReillys Outdated Killing Kennedy
Exclusive: Fox News Bill OReilly and co-author Martin Dugard are hoping for another financial killing with their Killing Kennedy. But the new book may have a bigger agenda, solidifying popular history behind the Warren Report on JFKs murder and tearing down his character, writes Jim DiEugenio.
By Jim DiEugenio
Consortium News Oct. 13, 2012
A long time ago, Fox News personality Bill OReilly was a high school history teacher. Martin Dugard was an author who had written a few history books, e.g. about Christopher Columbus and Stanley and Livingstone. Last year, the two men collaborated on a book about the murder of President Abraham Lincoln. Killing Lincoln proved to be a killing in another way, a financial one.
This year is the 49th anniversary of the assassination of President John Kennedy. Several writers and film producers are already preparing major projects for the 50th anniversary next year. It seems that OReilly and Dugard decided to get the jump on the occasion by trying to repeat the success of their book about Lincoln, thus, we have Killing Kennedy.
But the Kennedy case is not the Lincoln case. The Lincoln case is one that has settled into history. The incredible thing about the murder of President Kennedy is that, 49 years later, we are still discovering things that the government has tried to keep secret about the case.
For instance, just a few months ago it was learned that the Air Force One tapes at the National Archives were incomplete. They had been edited to eliminate a reference to a query about the location of Air Force General Curtis LeMay as President Kennedys body was being returned from Dallas.
This made the news since historians understand that LeMay and Kennedy knocked heads during the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962, but also because there have been reports that, for whatever reason, LeMay was present during the Kennedy autopsy at Bethesda Medical Center that evening.
I mention this not only to show that there are still important secrets seeping out about the murder of President Kennedy, but also because you will not find a word about any significant new evidence in this book. In fact, in regards to the actual murder of President Kennedy, this is a book that could have been written in 1965. I could find very little, if anything, pertaining to the actual assassination that was discovered in later decades.
CONTINUED...
http://consortiumnews.com/2012/10/13/bill-oreillys-outdated-killing-kennedy/
Mr. DiEugenio will be addressing the symposium. I will report as best I can.
PS: I won't be mean if I meet Mr. O'Reilly, but I will ask him why he's changed his position.
Exclusive: Fox News Bill OReilly and co-author Martin Dugard are hoping for another financial killing with their Killing Kennedy. But the new book may have a bigger agenda, solidifying popular history behind the Warren Report on JFKs murder and tearing down his character, writes Jim DiEugenio.
By Jim DiEugenio
Consortium News Oct. 13, 2012
A long time ago, Fox News personality Bill OReilly was a high school history teacher. Martin Dugard was an author who had written a few history books, e.g. about Christopher Columbus and Stanley and Livingstone. Last year, the two men collaborated on a book about the murder of President Abraham Lincoln. Killing Lincoln proved to be a killing in another way, a financial one.
This year is the 49th anniversary of the assassination of President John Kennedy. Several writers and film producers are already preparing major projects for the 50th anniversary next year. It seems that OReilly and Dugard decided to get the jump on the occasion by trying to repeat the success of their book about Lincoln, thus, we have Killing Kennedy.
But the Kennedy case is not the Lincoln case. The Lincoln case is one that has settled into history. The incredible thing about the murder of President Kennedy is that, 49 years later, we are still discovering things that the government has tried to keep secret about the case.
For instance, just a few months ago it was learned that the Air Force One tapes at the National Archives were incomplete. They had been edited to eliminate a reference to a query about the location of Air Force General Curtis LeMay as President Kennedys body was being returned from Dallas.
This made the news since historians understand that LeMay and Kennedy knocked heads during the Cuban Missile Crisis of 1962, but also because there have been reports that, for whatever reason, LeMay was present during the Kennedy autopsy at Bethesda Medical Center that evening.
I mention this not only to show that there are still important secrets seeping out about the murder of President Kennedy, but also because you will not find a word about any significant new evidence in this book. In fact, in regards to the actual murder of President Kennedy, this is a book that could have been written in 1965. I could find very little, if anything, pertaining to the actual assassination that was discovered in later decades.
CONTINUED...
http://consortiumnews.com/2012/10/13/bill-oreillys-outdated-killing-kennedy/
Mr. DiEugenio will be addressing the symposium. I will report as best I can.
PS: I won't be mean if I meet Mr. O'Reilly, but I will ask him why he's changed his position.
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Octafish to attend JFK assassination conference. Do you think JFK still matters? [View all]
Octafish
Oct 2013
OP
Five years ago, DU2 had a pair of mammoth threads that I can longer access...
Octafish
Oct 2013
#169
Kick/Rec. Yes, it matters because of the word you used - truth. It's in ever increasingly short
NRaleighLiberal
Oct 2013
#6
No...thank YOU for what you are doing - and always do for us here...and for teaching me a new word!
NRaleighLiberal
Oct 2013
#191
Thanks, notadmblnd! People wonder why the USA tortures children, invades innocent countries...
Octafish
Oct 2013
#199
I imagine that to be the case for the under-educated who believe history is not relevant.
LanternWaste
Oct 2013
#139
Thanks for your POV, pscot. There are many CIA papers that bear direct relevance...
Octafish
Oct 2013
#202
JFK's Assassination was/is a watershed moment in our nation's history, it is of great importance.
Uncle Joe
Oct 2013
#13
Yes, it matters. But looking ahead Mother Nature is going to kick human ass. IT WILL BE UGLY.
hunter
Oct 2013
#15
When it comes to the disease, we must strike at the root -- the radical approach.
Octafish
Oct 2013
#231
Good posts rebutting the willing ignorance of the JFK CTists, but you may as well be shouting
stopbush
Oct 2013
#146
For many, and, on certain levels, I'd go as far as to say "most" if not all. As for the economy,
whathehell
Oct 2013
#91
Of course not. You're still young & immature enough to think calling us "old" is a debate strategy
whathehell
Oct 2013
#116
I'm pretty sure that, being in possession of all the academic information you have, in addition
whathehell
Oct 2013
#163
Sorry, Brad, unlike yourself, I'm not a man of any color -- I'm a female, like Juajen, who also
whathehell
Oct 2013
#227
What I meant by that is, it seems to be the moment when the other side decided to just start killing
stranger81
Oct 2013
#51
Exactly. All the same political actors benefited from each "lone nut" assassination.
villager
Oct 2013
#88
Superficially, no it wasn't. but there is a fundamental yes underlying that time.
Egalitarian Thug
Oct 2013
#197
Exactly. I doubt the deniers have ever fired a shot, much less from elevation
Link Speed
Oct 2013
#22
2 shots out of 3 on a target ranging from less than 60 to less than 100 yards away?
Spider Jerusalem
Oct 2013
#105
Justice demands one ex-Secret Service Agent and one ex-FBI Agent testify before Congress...
Octafish
Oct 2013
#252
Interestingly enough I'm currently reading a book by L. Fletcher Prouty about the subject...
rwsanders
Oct 2013
#25
Thanks Octafish, that's the book I'm reading. So far it is very sad as it kind of picks up where...
rwsanders
Oct 2013
#251
Dismissing conspiracy theories about the assassination is not making light of the event. n/t
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#41
And you do so in violation of the SOP for GD and the Terms of Service for DU.
Bolo Boffin
Oct 2013
#166
Correct. ALSO is the operative word. It was bigger than Oswald there was a likely conspiracy
avaistheone1
Oct 2013
#93
It was fifty years ago. It's a very cold case. The original investigation may indeed
struggle4progress
Oct 2013
#46
I'm not a 'boomer' whatever that is, and it very much interests me. It is part of the history of
sabrina 1
Oct 2013
#87
It most certainly is still relevant. You see how our country STILL won't speak to Cuba?
loudsue
Oct 2013
#70
I believe that open-minded persons never close the door. We know we are fed propaganda
rhett o rick
Oct 2013
#72
considering how long it takes to get things declassified I would say it does still matter.
liberal_at_heart
Oct 2013
#76
We are on the threshold of a grand and open conspiracy to destroy Constitutional government.
gordianot
Oct 2013
#81
I think Lincoln's assassination IMO matters a great deal more than Kennedy's
Hippo_Tron
Oct 2013
#185
Michael Parenti: The JFK Assassination and the Gangster Nature of the State
Junkdrawer
Oct 2013
#119
Hoping for a great conference, looking forward to your comments on it. Rec. n/t
Judi Lynn
Oct 2013
#160
I think some of JFKs wish list like civil rights, programs for the poor
arely staircase
Oct 2013
#242
It matters as much as our Constitution due in part to its first establishment.
Festivito
Oct 2013
#186
JFK threw himself upon the broken barricade between democracy and the fascist national security stat
hedda_foil
Oct 2013
#229
I have traveled to almost every continent and one thing I have seen almost everywhere
DonRedwood
Oct 2013
#241
I now realize that Daniel Brandt's Name Base is back online-it's wonderfully easy to use-KICK
bobthedrummer
Oct 2013
#247
I am excited for you Octafish. I know you are going to enjoy this symposium.
avaistheone1
Oct 2013
#260