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Wounded Bear

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28. Except that real teabaggers remain a minority faction...

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:21 AM

Oct 2013

The 'other' Repubs are being held hostage too, through threats of primary challenges financed by the Cock Bros.

The problem is tha Boner is afraid to hold an actual vote, because it would probably pass under Dem terms, with some Repub backing.

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Obama should not take this deal. [View all] Barack_America Oct 2013 OP

Agreed. Nothing will change unless everybody feels the pain. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #1

There is no deal on the table. The speaker is supposedly presenting this deal to his caucus. Mass Oct 2013 #2

Even if they agreed to it, they'd renege. Remember, they can't accept "Yes", as an answer. SharonAnn Oct 2013 #37

And the president's presser didn't allow for any 'temporary' increases. Media is editing, again... freshwest Oct 2013 #58

It should be killed in its larval stages. Barack_America Oct 2013 #3

Democrats have already called this a non-starter. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #4

WTF is wrong with house gopers? Iliyah Oct 2013 #57

Money. n/t Orsino Oct 2013 #68

Boehner has moved from anger to bargaining BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #5

Let's see if he takes it.... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #6

mine too jeanliberty90 Oct 2013 #81

Reid will hold a vote on Saturday to extend the debt ceiling through 2014. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #7

Unfortunately, the Senate is not the problem.nt Barack_America Oct 2013 #11

Agreed. I was thinking that maybe with this longer-term debt ceiling hike passing the Senate... BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #12

You said the words "better for the economy." Rethugs absolutely DO NOT want that. ffr Oct 2013 #60

Yes, but everytime Reid votes a clean CR, it shines the spotlight on Boehner and the Teabaggers. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #85

That would be stupid not to take increase in debt ceiling Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #8

6 week extension. And decimates Obama's leverage on a clean CR for 6 weeks. Barack_America Oct 2013 #9

It Destroys The Teabaggers Leverage As Well... KharmaTrain Oct 2013 #15

But in 6 weeks they'll shut 'er down again, this time demanding Austerity. Myrina Oct 2013 #22

And Obama will tell them the US people will view them as enemies Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #63

CORRECt. Two "crises" for the price of one. Maven Oct 2013 #74

Not so. Next time they get to claim "the democrats wouldn't negotiate" with more believability. DireStrike Oct 2013 #78

There IS a string: They will just do it again around Thanksgiving JHB Oct 2013 #13

No problem. Obama and Dems in Washington can point out Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #21

Point out to who? How many times do they need it pointed out? JHB Oct 2013 #35

Look at the poll numbers. Dems are winning this ugly war Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #38

You mean these numbers? JHB Oct 2013 #48

Like that picture. Republicans are tanking Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #50

It is not like they have not done this in the recent past. Nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #47

Only until Christmas? That's been shot down by PBO already. freshwest Oct 2013 #62

That would be a really terrible deal BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #10

looks like that's going to be the deal G_j Oct 2013 #14

Default is not an option. Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #16

The GOP knows that just as well as we do. Barack_America Oct 2013 #20

The Teabaggers want to destroy everything possible Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #23

Boehner already has the votes without them. Barack_America Oct 2013 #26

He will? Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #80

Except that real teabaggers remain a minority faction... Wounded Bear Oct 2013 #28

If it is clean, he should n2doc Oct 2013 #17

No duh! Myrina Oct 2013 #18

He Has No Choice. The Deal the House Repubs are offering is What the Senate Already Passed. berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #19

Reid brought a 6 week extension to the floor? Barack_America Oct 2013 #24

Yes. The Senate Bill only funds the government through Nov 15. Link berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #25

The GOP is not proposing a vote on the budget. Barack_America Oct 2013 #30

They Will because Obama is demanding it. berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #40

Here's what the President should tell Boner........ rdharma Oct 2013 #27

It isn't a deal, it is an extension. lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #29

Making it worse than a "deal". Barack_America Oct 2013 #32

On second thought, maybe you are right. Since August the rethugs have refused to come to the table. lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #36

No, He shouldn't. stage left Oct 2013 #31

And Why Ccarmona Oct 2013 #33

Screw that Lifelong Dem Oct 2013 #34

Any clean debt ceiling lift will get signed, IMO Recursion Oct 2013 #39

Agree 100% blackspade Oct 2013 #41

Kick & Rec CanonRay Oct 2013 #42

We want the The President and the Dems. walkerbait41 Oct 2013 #43

I seriously doubt Obama will fall for this trick..... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #44

WHITE HOUSE SAYS NO! Zoonart Oct 2013 #45

Thank the sweet baby Jesus. Barack_America Oct 2013 #46

So he'll sign a Debt Limit extension for a year without a CR? Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #49

. Raffi Ella Oct 2013 #51

GOOD! n/t backscatter712 Oct 2013 #53

Agreed, the Pres should hold out until he gets... backscatter712 Oct 2013 #52

Once agian it gives them the idea that we are open to their extortion. jwirr Oct 2013 #54

It's not even with no strings. Kablooie Oct 2013 #55

"No debt ceiling deal without a vote on a clean CR." Laelth Oct 2013 #56

No deal. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #59

I think Boehner's proposal is naught but a publicity stunt!! Stand firm Mr. President!!! hue Oct 2013 #61

Not if they continue to hold the country hostage. kentuck Oct 2013 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #65

Obama and Reid will turn it down. n/t Lil Missy Oct 2013 #66

Proceed Speaker... JCMach1 Oct 2013 #67

WTF Boner??? Buddaman Oct 2013 #69

I agree with you, no short term deal munster69 Oct 2013 #70

It's worse ProSense Oct 2013 #71

Looks like he isn't. Good! n/t eridani Oct 2013 #72

EXACTLY. This only helps THEM Maven Oct 2013 #73

This supposed "deal" sucks. Do not accept! Owl Oct 2013 #75

Endgame scenarios matt819 Oct 2013 #76

Absolutely. The GOP has vastly overreached with this stunt. Barack_America Oct 2013 #77

Republicans believe it'll play beter to threaten old ladies around Christmas. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #79

Exactly. Paying ransom only invites more hostage takings. nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #82

If Obama caves yet one more time obxhead Oct 2013 #83

OFFS. He hasn't "caved." He won't. He's not going to this time either. Hekate Oct 2013 #88

"Now they want to protect their precious stock market" mostlyconfused Oct 2013 #84

He won't. That ship has sailed, that train has left the station, the GOP is eating his dust Hekate Oct 2013 #86

The nutzoids in the House should take the Senate bill and pass it.. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #87