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cleanhippie

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189. Then get a grip, madam.

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 11:29 AM

Oct 2013

The only thing linking your grannies and Bachman and Palin (not sure why you're adding her to this) are......they are ALL Christians. Yep, that's right. Christian. They believe in Jesus, god, and the bible. And while their INTERPRETATIONS of their religious beliefs certainly differ by wide margins, they ARE all Christians. Sorry to be the one to break that to you.
Being a Christian is not a negative. I never said it was. But to refuse to acknowledge that they all pick and choose what parts of the bible are true for them is intellectual dishonesty on your part.
And your not excoriating me, you are venting your frustration at being unable to grasp the larger concept being discussed here.
I'll stick around and continue to try and help you understand it if you want.

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Yeah, the end of the Republican party!! B Calm Oct 2013 #1

we can only hope. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2013 #3

Sometimes I wonder...... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #39

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I know what you mean.. I think it's a big scam to bring on the crazies but Cha Oct 2013 #119

hope kardonb Oct 2013 #62

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That's what I was thinking, end of HER times. Shrike47 Oct 2013 #58

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I have been in her house she had the "White Guy" on the wall she believes is Jesus Heather MC Oct 2013 #54

Like this Blue Eyed Surfer Guy with a good tan? bvar22 Oct 2013 #127

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A brown man will rule the nations? Where did her pastor get that nonsense? IrishAyes Oct 2013 #91

I am Atheist I never bothered to look up the scripture I just know that's what she believes Heather MC Oct 2013 #95

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But, really, for that matter why would you believe anything in the Bible... Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #158

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End times? Roy Rolling Oct 2013 #45

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I literally laughed out loud at that picture. arcane1 Oct 2013 #6

It's Rapturepalooza! nt Zorra Oct 2013 #7

And that actually got elected to congress. Scary n/t Blaukraut Oct 2013 #8

Her indictment is still scheduled to drop before the end times get here. Sorry, Michelle. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2013 #9

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Frost is on the pumpkin? SaveAmerica Oct 2013 #42

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Sowwy! Also to James Taylor (it is almost that time of year, though!) SaveAmerica Oct 2013 #116

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This is what I associate with that phrase ... aaaaand this is how I learned to hate country music: Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #160

OK, mine is considerably more... colorful... Thor_MN Oct 2013 #179

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The chair is against the wall... Moostache Oct 2013 #77

Yah - its a parable. Ruby the Liberal Oct 2013 #79

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This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Oct 2013 #122

That quote got me too. panader0 Oct 2013 #131

She's right. johnp3907 Oct 2013 #14

obviously referring to her career and "marriage" elehhhhna Oct 2013 #15

She not only represents the end of the Republican party, she represents the stupid ass end. Lint Head Oct 2013 #16

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Yes it gives us fear in some respects because we want the retirement that our parents enjoyed. freshwest Oct 2013 #18

And Obamacare kills women, kills children, and kills senior citizens. Lifelong Dem Oct 2013 #19

"God" sure has idiot spokes people! arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #20

pssst... I don't think they're his at all. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #96

From what I have seen, I'd have to agree. n/t arthritisR_US Oct 2013 #101

Sentencing day coming, Michelle? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #23

Hey Michelle, Downtown Hound Oct 2013 #24

by the same token the opposite of that is also true unfortunately Dragonfli Oct 2013 #44

Blahblah rivers of blood blahblah silence in Heaven for half an hour blahblah angels blah hatrack Oct 2013 #25

The guano!/The guano!/It's always/the guano... JHB Oct 2013 #26

ROFL!!!! calimary Oct 2013 #73

Wow, that's really the kind of person you want fielding the nuclear football. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #27

She is forgetting the part of the bible that frowns on "predicting" VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #28

"These people"? Their interpretation of scripture is just as valid as your grandmothers. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #132

No its not... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #135

Yeah, it is. trotsky Oct 2013 #138

No they don't ... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #140

Every Christian believes at least parts of the bible are literal. trotsky Oct 2013 #141

Ahh, they "pick and choose" what parts they like, huh? And your grandmother didn't, right? cleanhippie Oct 2013 #139

My grandmother followed the teachings of Jesus... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #142

So in one sentence you support my claim. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #143

The NEW Testament... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #145

So she chooses the New Testament, a PART of the bible. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #146

You obviously know NOTHING about Christianity... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #148

So you are telling me two things: she only believes the NT, and she believes all of it. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #149

She never said ALL of it was true.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #150

So she chooses only PARTS of the NT now? cleanhippie Oct 2013 #151

She chose to follow a prophet....not a book VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #162

Hahahaha. Ok. The bible is not the basis of belief in Jesus for your grandmother. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #163

No it's not... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #164

Except your first post said that she did rely on the bible. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #165

It's not about relying on it...Do you believe everything you read in every book? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #166

During this discussion, you have repeatedly attacked me personally. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #167

You attacked my dead Grandmother's beliefs...AS IF VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #168

Questioning beliefs is not attacking a person. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #169

You didn't "question them" you disparaged them VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #174

So you agree that it was her beliefs, not your grandmother that was the issue. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #183

I said nothing of the sort...and you didn't "question them"...you flat out insulted them. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #184

I "insulted" them? Get a grip, dude. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #185

Not a dude... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #187

Then get a grip, madam. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #189

No YOU want to put them all in a nice little box.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #190

They are already in it, madam. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #191

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Do tell us more, Mrs Bachmann. Mojo Electro Oct 2013 #30

Welcome to DU, Mojo Electro! calimary Oct 2013 #74

Thanks! Mojo Electro Oct 2013 #80

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Fnord! KamaAina Oct 2013 #129

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She neads to consult the Dealey Lama intaglio Oct 2013 #152

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Her constituents.... HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #110

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You pegged it. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #97

So she is not a real Christian, is that what you are saying? cleanhippie Oct 2013 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #192

What I'm saying is - the behavior she exhibits and the things she says all tell me that calimary Oct 2013 #195

While I understand your point, you still seem to be saying that she is not a true Christian cleanhippie Oct 2013 #196

I think the point in all those New Testament stories quoting Jesus Christ - calimary Oct 2013 #197

Ah, the "No True Scotsman" defence! mr blur Oct 2013 #193

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5150 Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #75

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Seriously doubt Jesus Christ is a believer in Michelle Bachmann or the odious brand of Christianity indepat Oct 2013 #81

Thank you. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #90

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Talking about figs libdude Oct 2013 #83

Well, lets be nice Turbineguy Oct 2013 #84

all of her antics and public mime time tells me me one thing.... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #85

Don't know what to say? Try this. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #87

Try "The Bible Geek" sometime. Robert M. Price. longship Oct 2013 #112

Well, I'm not an atheist myself, but thanks anyway IrishAyes Oct 2013 #124

The END of HER political career. nt Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #89

You want to know why people believe this shit? Or follow it and lap it up? snooper2 Oct 2013 #92

Bachmann doesn't even know the Bible, apparently jmowreader Oct 2013 #93

Here I was thinking it was Reagan exboyfil Oct 2013 #105

He certainly ACTED like an Antichrist, didn't he? jmowreader Oct 2013 #136

So you are saying that because her interpretation differs from yours, she is wrong? cleanhippie Oct 2013 #153

No, I'm saying she's just wrong jmowreader Oct 2013 #170

Yes, you are saying she is wrong, based in your interpretation of the bible. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #172

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Fucking Christo-fascist freak! gopiscrap Oct 2013 #103

Only for you, sweetie, only for you thecrow Oct 2013 #104

I know what the constitution says about religious tests... Scootaloo Oct 2013 #107

That is the most trite, most restated idea defacto7 Oct 2013 #108

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Hey Michelle Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2013 #111

Yeah the end of the GOP. Rex Oct 2013 #114

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It's the end of the world as we know it! abelenkpe Oct 2013 #126

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Our Fig Tree has leaves every year. bvar22 Oct 2013 #128

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Sorry for the rhetorical selfie, but had to repost this from another thread hatrack Oct 2013 #154

well it`s my.... madrchsod Oct 2013 #178

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Bat. Shit. Crazy. ladyVet Oct 2013 #180

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