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SoCalDem

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41. You are certainly a persistent one, aren't you?

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 01:48 PM

Oct 2013

Look:

The facts are what they are..

The US has a SHITTY delivery system for health care UNLESS you are RICH

Talk to ANYONE anywhere that HAS a national/universal/single-payer (whatever you want to call it) and ask them to swap with what WE have... They will laugh in your face.

We have a crazy quilt that's ragged at all the edges..

Conservative obstructionists in congress have been ruining lives for decades now when it comes to delivering the rewards of citizenship anyone deserves from their country... healthcare (not "insurance&quot should be a birthright.

When conservatives want a war or a war-toy, they move heaven and earth to find ways to pay for it...so it should be for healthcare too. If rich have to subsidize poor, that's fair too.. if they don't like it, they can move

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My idea of health insurance: [View all] kentuck Oct 2013 OP

My idea of health insurance: fuck health insurance gopiscrap Oct 2013 #1

If no company should ever make a profit from healthcare Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #16

The government funds most R & D, now, not private industry. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #21

Remember this post Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #25

Nationalize it, like they do in Europe gopiscrap Oct 2013 #56

So, doctors, nurses etc are going to be all volunteers?? feathateathn Oct 2013 #24

In Britain OwnedByCats Oct 2013 #57

+1000. Geez don't people realize Medicare OOP is still expensive and you need a medigap policy too? dkf Oct 2013 #27

We have Medicare, Worried senior Oct 2013 #42

So Bill Gates pays $103 and the dishwasher at TGI Fridya's pays $103? Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #2

Your premium is your tax. kentuck Oct 2013 #5

I think single payer is bad Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #6

Do you think Bill Gates should get the same quality of care as the dishwasher? kentuck Oct 2013 #7

One has nothing to do with the other Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #10

We disagree. kentuck Oct 2013 #14

Is there anything else you don't support progressive taxes for? DireStrike Oct 2013 #38

Lived in Britain for 10 years OwnedByCats Oct 2013 #58

Give me Canadian-style single payor. roamer65 Oct 2013 #3

That's not really true Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #4

Sanity!!! Thank you. dkf Oct 2013 #28

Young people do not go to the doctor the same as old people. former9thward Oct 2013 #8

Do you have proof for that? enlightenment Oct 2013 #32

I have the same proof the OP has when it said young people go to the dr the same as old. former9thward Oct 2013 #54

Kill health insurance companies. Lex Oct 2013 #9

That is not true at all Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #11

We need single-payer and for the health insurance companies Lex Oct 2013 #13

You are just plain wrong Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #15

Insurance companies do ONE THING CANDO Oct 2013 #17

They do manage for profit Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #18

I and we are not saying they don't do it well. CANDO Oct 2013 #19

Saying they are unnecessary Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #22

I think it's just easier politically to get a system like that set up than a single-payer one DireStrike Oct 2013 #39

No one wanted to hear anything other than their own narrative Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #48

Well I still expect to come up with some objection to the system DireStrike Oct 2013 #52

Heard the horror stories OwnedByCats Oct 2013 #59

I don't know the intricate details of other national plans. CANDO Oct 2013 #55

The governments of those countries dictate what cost and coverage are n/t eridani Oct 2013 #60

No. They make profit Lex Oct 2013 #20

Then why are hospitals full of sick people getting things done insurance is paying for? Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #23

Look at countries with single-payer. People get MORE health care for less money paid. Lex Oct 2013 #26

Not really. Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #29

Go to page 117 of this link Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #30

Germany's insurance companies are tightly monitored and regulated by their Government. Lex Oct 2013 #31

But they're insurance companies Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #47

You are saying many things, but enlightenment Oct 2013 #33

I provided proof in a link above. Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #44

Sorry, but you didn't prove your point. enlightenment Oct 2013 #49

Straw man Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #50

Reading comprehension. enlightenment Oct 2013 #51

Yes, I have obviously demonstrated I lack reading comprehension in this thread. Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #53

You are certainly a persistent one, aren't you? SoCalDem Oct 2013 #41

What does this have to do with this conversation? Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #43

//// SoCalDem Oct 2013 #45

Stunning reply Bunnahabhain Oct 2013 #46

There are people I know that will pay $13 under the ACA that have never had health insurance. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #12

I just selected my plan on our open enrollment. Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #34

Single Payer. We do have a model ... Kaiser Permanente. libdem4life Oct 2013 #35

The Medicare payment is for Part B only. Doesn't cover Part A or Part D. FarCenter Oct 2013 #36

You wouldn't want Medicare Sgent Oct 2013 #37

What's wrong with progressive taxation? DireStrike Oct 2013 #40