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Motown_Johnny

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80. He will?

Reply to Barack_America (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 04:52 PM

Oct 2013

Are you sure he isn't going to wait for the discharge petition so he can claim to have held his ground?

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Obama should not take this deal. [View all] Barack_America Oct 2013 OP

Agreed. Nothing will change unless everybody feels the pain. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #1

There is no deal on the table. The speaker is supposedly presenting this deal to his caucus. Mass Oct 2013 #2

Even if they agreed to it, they'd renege. Remember, they can't accept "Yes", as an answer. SharonAnn Oct 2013 #37

And the president's presser didn't allow for any 'temporary' increases. Media is editing, again... freshwest Oct 2013 #58

It should be killed in its larval stages. Barack_America Oct 2013 #3

Democrats have already called this a non-starter. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #4

WTF is wrong with house gopers? Iliyah Oct 2013 #57

Money. n/t Orsino Oct 2013 #68

Boehner has moved from anger to bargaining BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #5

Let's see if he takes it.... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #6

mine too jeanliberty90 Oct 2013 #81

Reid will hold a vote on Saturday to extend the debt ceiling through 2014. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #7

Unfortunately, the Senate is not the problem.nt Barack_America Oct 2013 #11

Agreed. I was thinking that maybe with this longer-term debt ceiling hike passing the Senate... BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #12

You said the words "better for the economy." Rethugs absolutely DO NOT want that. ffr Oct 2013 #60

Yes, but everytime Reid votes a clean CR, it shines the spotlight on Boehner and the Teabaggers. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #85

That would be stupid not to take increase in debt ceiling Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #8

6 week extension. And decimates Obama's leverage on a clean CR for 6 weeks. Barack_America Oct 2013 #9

It Destroys The Teabaggers Leverage As Well... KharmaTrain Oct 2013 #15

But in 6 weeks they'll shut 'er down again, this time demanding Austerity. Myrina Oct 2013 #22

And Obama will tell them the US people will view them as enemies Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #63

CORRECt. Two "crises" for the price of one. Maven Oct 2013 #74

Not so. Next time they get to claim "the democrats wouldn't negotiate" with more believability. DireStrike Oct 2013 #78

There IS a string: They will just do it again around Thanksgiving JHB Oct 2013 #13

No problem. Obama and Dems in Washington can point out Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #21

Point out to who? How many times do they need it pointed out? JHB Oct 2013 #35

Look at the poll numbers. Dems are winning this ugly war Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #38

You mean these numbers? JHB Oct 2013 #48

Like that picture. Republicans are tanking Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #50

It is not like they have not done this in the recent past. Nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #47

Only until Christmas? That's been shot down by PBO already. freshwest Oct 2013 #62

That would be a really terrible deal BlueToTheBone Oct 2013 #10

looks like that's going to be the deal G_j Oct 2013 #14

Default is not an option. Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #16

The GOP knows that just as well as we do. Barack_America Oct 2013 #20

The Teabaggers want to destroy everything possible Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #23

Boehner already has the votes without them. Barack_America Oct 2013 #26

He will? Motown_Johnny Oct 2013 #80

Except that real teabaggers remain a minority faction... Wounded Bear Oct 2013 #28

If it is clean, he should n2doc Oct 2013 #17

No duh! Myrina Oct 2013 #18

He Has No Choice. The Deal the House Repubs are offering is What the Senate Already Passed. berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #19

Reid brought a 6 week extension to the floor? Barack_America Oct 2013 #24

Yes. The Senate Bill only funds the government through Nov 15. Link berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #25

The GOP is not proposing a vote on the budget. Barack_America Oct 2013 #30

They Will because Obama is demanding it. berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #40

Here's what the President should tell Boner........ rdharma Oct 2013 #27

It isn't a deal, it is an extension. lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #29

Making it worse than a "deal". Barack_America Oct 2013 #32

On second thought, maybe you are right. Since August the rethugs have refused to come to the table. lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #36

No, He shouldn't. stage left Oct 2013 #31

And Why Ccarmona Oct 2013 #33

Screw that Lifelong Dem Oct 2013 #34

Any clean debt ceiling lift will get signed, IMO Recursion Oct 2013 #39

Agree 100% blackspade Oct 2013 #41

Kick & Rec CanonRay Oct 2013 #42

We want the The President and the Dems. walkerbait41 Oct 2013 #43

I seriously doubt Obama will fall for this trick..... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #44

WHITE HOUSE SAYS NO! Zoonart Oct 2013 #45

Thank the sweet baby Jesus. Barack_America Oct 2013 #46

So he'll sign a Debt Limit extension for a year without a CR? Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #49

. Raffi Ella Oct 2013 #51

GOOD! n/t backscatter712 Oct 2013 #53

Agreed, the Pres should hold out until he gets... backscatter712 Oct 2013 #52

Once agian it gives them the idea that we are open to their extortion. jwirr Oct 2013 #54

It's not even with no strings. Kablooie Oct 2013 #55

"No debt ceiling deal without a vote on a clean CR." Laelth Oct 2013 #56

No deal. nt BumRushDaShow Oct 2013 #59

I think Boehner's proposal is naught but a publicity stunt!! Stand firm Mr. President!!! hue Oct 2013 #61

Not if they continue to hold the country hostage. kentuck Oct 2013 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #65

Obama and Reid will turn it down. n/t Lil Missy Oct 2013 #66

Proceed Speaker... JCMach1 Oct 2013 #67

WTF Boner??? Buddaman Oct 2013 #69

I agree with you, no short term deal munster69 Oct 2013 #70

It's worse ProSense Oct 2013 #71

Looks like he isn't. Good! n/t eridani Oct 2013 #72

EXACTLY. This only helps THEM Maven Oct 2013 #73

This supposed "deal" sucks. Do not accept! Owl Oct 2013 #75

Endgame scenarios matt819 Oct 2013 #76

Absolutely. The GOP has vastly overreached with this stunt. Barack_America Oct 2013 #77

Republicans believe it'll play beter to threaten old ladies around Christmas. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #79

Exactly. Paying ransom only invites more hostage takings. nt SunSeeker Oct 2013 #82

If Obama caves yet one more time obxhead Oct 2013 #83

OFFS. He hasn't "caved." He won't. He's not going to this time either. Hekate Oct 2013 #88

"Now they want to protect their precious stock market" mostlyconfused Oct 2013 #84

He won't. That ship has sailed, that train has left the station, the GOP is eating his dust Hekate Oct 2013 #86

The nutzoids in the House should take the Senate bill and pass it.. mountain grammy Oct 2013 #87