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In reply to the discussion: I've noticed some real bad spellin' on DU lately [View all]Diclotican
(5,095 posts)malokvale77
I do remember the uproar - when Breivik got a life sentence - of 21 year - plus "protective custody" for as long as it would be seen needed to keep him out of circulation - and from what is known he would be there in his prison cell for a long time - mostly because he have never shown any form of remorse - or at least to say that he might had been in the wrong.. He have stated, rather publicity that if he was given his freedom again - he would try to go after the government - or organizations like AUF again - to kill even more if he had the possibility to do it..
But, it is Norwegian LAW who gave him that sentence - and in our constitution it is stated rather clearly that no law can be given after the fact - and that a murderer can be sentenced to a stricter law than the strictest law who was at the books when the crime happened.. And at the time mr Breivik killed so many and kind of turned us all upside down here in Norway - the strictest punishment you could be given was 21 year plus be kept in protective custody - for as long as deemed necessary - of course a court would have to decide every 5 year - if persons like Breivik is sane enough to possible given a new Chance in life.. Even though I doubt Breivik will be given his freedom the next 30 year.. Mostly because no Justice Minister in Norway, will pardon this guy.. It would be a kind of pardon that would ruin chances for the Prime minister to ever have any governance in Norway for life - and I guess mr Breivik will be kept under lock and key at least to his 70th birthday.
I think Norway have a decent law system - who works in Norway - we have not had death penalty in Norway since 1848 - when the last one was hanged in Oslo, he had been stealing horses and doing many other rather horrible crimes in a few years - and after that - everyone who was punished with "death penalty" was instead given life without parole in some of the fortresses in Norway - where they had to work for the best of the community for the rest of their natural life.. But as the century progressed - also the justice system progresses - and by the late 1860s some of the first modern prisoners was build - and the criminals kept there.. Most of them is today closed down and demolished - but it exist a few ones, who still is in use - albeit modernized to a better standard than the 1870s...
The last time death penalty was used in Norway - was after World War two - when 25 of the worst criminals, who had been supporters of Germany when they was in this country - got the death penalty - as part of the court proses after the war - it was officially over 40 who got the death penalty - but most of them was given pardon from the death penalty - and in most cases was given pardon even from prison by 1960.. Most of them wa in fact given freedom in the late 1950s - but was not given "all the rights of a citizen" for another decade.. Aka the right to vote in elections and so one.. And even the use of death penalty in Norway - bu 1945-46 when the proses against war criminals, and supporters of the occupying Germany - the use of Death Penalty was not that popular - and it is maybe one of the reasons most of them who formally was given the death penalty in the end was not killed - even if they definitely could have been excecuted...
And most of them who ended up death after the cort process was shot by rifles - either at the fortress in Oslo or in Trondheim a few ones was also executed in Bergen - but for the most part, it was in Oslo and Trondheim the 25 was executed after the war... And they was given that sentence by the treason laws in our law system - and the military law who until 1975 formally could give death penalty to enemies of the State.. Today no one can be executed in Norway - at least not legal - as we do not have any death penalty - that be in the civilian law system - or the military system.. In fact all criminal charges over fines is given to the civilian court to be deiced there - as the military system is not sovereign from the civilian court system in Norway..
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