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freedom fighter jh

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38. What's happening now is what the GOP has been pushing for openly since 1980.

Sat Oct 12, 2013, 10:22 AM

Oct 2013

This is the "smaller government" they (or is it their masters) want.

Now everyone sees small government and its effects. Most Americans, including most Republicans, see the damage it will do to their lives. And the wealthy and powerful see that all they have to do is manipulate their toadies into twisting the democratic system out of shape and the system will carry out their will. What's still open? Some truly essential government services, but also the Capitol gym and, I suspect, anything that someone with enough money to bribe a congressman pushes for. What's closed? The programs the elite hate so much, like food assistance for the poor as well as programs to protect the consumer (food safety) and the citizen (EPA).

The ultra-wealthy are tasting blood now. This partial shutdown may win a lot of Republicans over to the Democratic side, but I fear it will also empower the powerful pushing for small government to find a way to make their vision happen.

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For those delighting in the GOP meltdown, please remember [View all] Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 OP

This is a good point. Arkansas Granny Oct 2013 #1

MSNBC just did a story on tourist towns that are losing berni_mccoy Oct 2013 #2

There's an article in our local paper today about the effect in NC mountain towns mnhtnbb Oct 2013 #7

Considering the fact that the assclown that started this shutdown beaglelover Oct 2013 #48

What an idiotic and insensitive thing to say. NealK Oct 2013 #49

sorry but among all the towns in the country which richly deserve to have had that happen dsc Oct 2013 #75

Sorry but what that poster said was: NealK Oct 2013 #82

true he was imprecise dsc Oct 2013 #85

Incredible. The lack of empathy on this board is fucking amazing sometimes. cordelia Oct 2013 #91

sorry but if you vote for teabaggers who say dsc Oct 2013 #93

ridiculous! DrDan Oct 2013 #57

Well isn't that empathic of you. That freshman congress critter from NC--Meadows--is a result mnhtnbb Oct 2013 #58

Dear beaglelover: NuclearDem Oct 2013 #60

Hmm my jury comment got trucated.. Flying Squirrel Oct 2013 #65

Well, that's going to win friends and influence enemies of the Dem Party. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #70

Well said. NealK Oct 2013 #83

I don't get why people don't understand this. Well said, sabrina 1. cordelia Oct 2013 #92

Wow? fuck that you. Starry Messenger Oct 2013 #76

While we're at it we should blame everyone in Ohio for Boehner. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #84

+1 n/t NealK Oct 2013 #95

There are Arizona towns ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #9

I live on the west side of Rocky Mtn. Natl Park mountain grammy Oct 2013 #37

ok..lets not overblow this beachbum bob Oct 2013 #3

You don't know that it's a short term event. randome Oct 2013 #6

".. small perspective".. as in Cha Oct 2013 #79

How can it be overblown that we have to swallow the crammed down Mira Oct 2013 #23

"It wasn't a problem for me therefore it shouldn't be a problem for anyone"??? MH1 Oct 2013 #34

Welll said. NealK Oct 2013 #52

We do daybranch Oct 2013 #4

I have pointed that out in many threads, it did need its own OP. Good post! Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #5

Its absolutely devistating. grantcart Oct 2013 #8

But doesn't that point to ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #10

there is literally no 'skin in the game'. Just a typing a few letters and then starting a self grantcart Oct 2013 #12

Exactly ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #25

So what are you actually asking of people? That we fold to the Republicans? Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #11

I don't think so. It may be in reaction to sentiment like this: grantcart Oct 2013 #13

Ah. One poster with no recs at all is what this is about? Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #18

NO! Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #21

Putting words in my mouth is unacceptable aggression. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #26

I think it is a sentiment that you can see in various posts and replies, but not that blatant. grantcart Oct 2013 #41

How the HELL did you get that from my post? Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #14

I asked you what specfic actions you wanted from others, I pointed out that I have been Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #24

Some friendly advice ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #33

Excellent advice. That is my experience also with that one. nt. MH1 Oct 2013 #36

I speak from experience ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #39

+1 treestar Oct 2013 #64

You are the poster that calls me 'he/she' repeatedly. Seem to follow me around to do so. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #87

To be honest ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2013 #90

I am a union man as well... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #35

What impression? I simply asked for specifics, what does the OP want others to do? Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #89

Say what? Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #94

gop meltdown--they still own wisconsin dembotoz Oct 2013 #15

Yes, they need to self-destruct at state levels. Beartracks Oct 2013 #20

You are absolutely correct TxDemChem Oct 2013 #16

You're Right. However..... chuckstevens Oct 2013 #17

+1. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #22

+ 2. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #31

A very good point. To add another point of view, folks, please remember, Seeking Serenity Oct 2013 #19

The GOP still had leaders then. They don't now. randome Oct 2013 #28

But the Republican Party wasn't in decline then. caseymoz Oct 2013 #42

We remember because most of us are suffering some of those consequences but if we do not stop jwirr Oct 2013 #27

no delight. Obama is correct, that is why people agree with him - not "winning" Justice Oct 2013 #29

The only people who are hoping that the debt ceiling wont be raised are the delusional right wingers Snake Plissken Oct 2013 #30

Your pic wins the thread. Brigid Oct 2013 #44

This situation is scary, to me RainDog Oct 2013 #32

Well, we still have the Constitution/Bill of Rights. Oh, wait a minute... blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #66

What's happening now is what the GOP has been pushing for openly since 1980. freedom fighter jh Oct 2013 #38

Worst than that . . . caseymoz Oct 2013 #40

I am an unpaid hostage hootinholler Oct 2013 #43

I'm very sorry Southside Oct 2013 #77

True but keep in mind rock Oct 2013 #45

Very good post. Grateful for Hope Oct 2013 #46

Eggs and omelets. backscatter712 Oct 2013 #47

I would rather not lose my house, my savings, my ability to function... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #51

Watching that vote come down today chilled my blood. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #50

the damage to GOP has been done, and most here are begging for this to be over Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #53

I am not happy at the shutdown. I am happy watching the GOP implode, however. Drunken Irishman Oct 2013 #54

K&R n/t NealK Oct 2013 #55

Have not hit button yet nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #56

there has been too much "compromise" noiretextatique Oct 2013 #59

I agree that this is gong to be hard. But I also don't think that means we should Squinch Oct 2013 #61

K & R historylovr Oct 2013 #62

K&R... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #63

FYI, contractors don't get back pay IronLionZion Oct 2013 #67

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #68

Like in any war their will be casualties but the side with the fewer casualties wins. 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #69

Our feelings don't matter to the Republicans and don't make The Second Stone Oct 2013 #71

I can't speak on behalf of my employer... but I do know this. mwooldri Oct 2013 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #73

Good point davidpdx Oct 2013 #74

I am a (VERY) small business owner oldtime dfl_er Oct 2013 #78

hey, what happened to your post count? Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #80

Remember also, that this "shock doctrine" is taking all attention, delrem Oct 2013 #81

Yes, real people are being hurt. 99Forever Oct 2013 #86

After reading some of the comments, Le Taz Hot Oct 2013 #88