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29. Better not be. Raise taxes on the wealthy and cut the pentagon 50% FIRST

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Are cuts to Social Security and Medicare on the table? [View all] xchrom Oct 2013 OP

Not on Obama's table. I think he's made that clear. Hekate Oct 2013 #1

What is not clear is what he is willing to give away, um, negotiate, after a clean bill is signed. djean111 Oct 2013 #4

That's over -- Obama is not moving any goal posts, he is not caving or spelunking, he has found... Hekate Oct 2013 #6

Yes, but what about when the gun is taken away Chemisse Oct 2013 #8

Well you already know that in that case we will just be so screwed bcs you just can't trust the guy Hekate Oct 2013 #12

Why in the WORLD would you think that RE: your last sentence?????? socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #20

Well, here's WH 'grand bargain' paper in 2011 Bob Woodward got hold of hooverville29 Oct 2013 #66

Why not? Where do you think the term "Grand Bargain" came from? hooverville29 Oct 2013 #59

Question - LiberalElite Oct 2013 #61

July 2011 Negotiations between WH & the Hill. Bob Woodward got a copy of the WH paper on it hooverville29 Oct 2013 #65

Thank you. nt LiberalElite Oct 2013 #67

Sad that this cannot be discounted as silly, isn't it. djean111 Oct 2013 #2

They damn well better not be Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #3

No thelordofhell Oct 2013 #5

Well I am on Social Security and I am not worried. Of course I don't have all the debt, 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #7

That's the attitude - work til you drop! Chemisse Oct 2013 #10

Yeah right why would someone nearing retirement age have all that debt as the OP said? 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #11

Apparently you do not live in the real world where DURHAM D Oct 2013 #17

I still would not even consider retirement if I had that kind of debt. It's ridiculous. 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #23

Why do you assume they have a choice about "retiring"? DURHAM D Oct 2013 #26

It depends melody Oct 2013 #36

see my post below hfojvt Oct 2013 #60

I'm on SS too Worried senior Oct 2013 #42

I am on Social Security and fortunately, I do not have any debt. RebelOne Oct 2013 #49

maybe not this go-round. KG Oct 2013 #9

every time people claim that Obama is "open to considering" this stuff right now.. there's no source Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #13

The problem is, it's becoming apparent that something has to be on the table. DireStrike Oct 2013 #19

"The problem is, it's becoming apparent that something has to be on the table"...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #21

At least you're honest, and admit that you're arguing against something no one has actually said. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #48

Better take a look at the "Grand Bargain," as Obama called it, he says he once had with Boehner hooverville29 Oct 2013 #63

Would Obama saying it, do? Oilwellian Oct 2013 #71

I wonder how many seniors got that kind of debt from helping out there kids? Pakid Oct 2013 #14

Home Equity Loans to get their kids through college, and when they couldn't KoKo Oct 2013 #34

They are invariably on the table. It's dangerous not to acknowledge that reality cali Oct 2013 #15

If not for Nancy Pelosi he would have done this long ago. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #18

I have video clips of Nancy in full support of Chained CPI n/t Oilwellian Oct 2013 #50

Yes. Harkin video on Chained CPI. madfloridian Oct 2013 #16

If people see Superlative CPI and Chained CPI at Walmart, they'll pick Superlative CPI. jsr Oct 2013 #22

I love superlative things... n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #39

Yes, it's like "New and Improved"...................nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #43

Actually, it's newest and best! JVS Oct 2013 #45

I've got a "Grand Bargain" for them. 99Forever Oct 2013 #24

Yeah I could go for that Grand Bargain as a fallback position....... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #25

Apparently, Democrats aren't allowed to... 99Forever Oct 2013 #27

Also cut "defense" spending - TBF Oct 2013 #31

Yes we do vote. 99Forever Oct 2013 #33

My parents are your generation - TBF Oct 2013 #35

Well..IF we go past the 17th...and IF they stop SS payments all together.... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #28

Better not be. Raise taxes on the wealthy and cut the pentagon 50% FIRST on point Oct 2013 #29

Here it comes!! Any second!!!!! JoePhilly Oct 2013 #30

So, it's a "freak out" to try and be prepared for this scenario?......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #32

I've watched this DU classic movie JoePhilly Oct 2013 #40

We wouldn't feel that way Enthusiast Oct 2013 #44

A powerless commission, and a change that the GOP actually proposed JoePhilly Oct 2013 #47

Simple fact? It's a stretch of the imagination. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #54

I'm not defending anything. There will be no cut. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #55

So what you're saying is that.... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #56

Not what I'm saying. But please continue JoePhilly Oct 2013 #57

OK, so that was not what you were saying...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #62

Clearly, I think lighting your hair JoePhilly Oct 2013 #69

Got any specifics? And BTW, I've not taken a single match to my hair........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #70

You know why I freak out? LiberalElite Oct 2013 #64

Why are the dems allowing this to become their problem? Nite Owl Oct 2013 #37

There are a number of unpopular programs begun by Bush that could be put on the chopping block. JVS Oct 2013 #46

because what are the 70-90% of us gonna do? vote 3rd party? MisterP Oct 2013 #53

I don't know how people can get: SS and Medicare are on the table from BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #38

You need the secret Obama evil plan JoePhilly Oct 2013 #41

Perhaps because it's in his 2014 Budget proposal? Oilwellian Oct 2013 #72

Take no chances. Let your rep and senators know they can't be in play. Faygo Kid Oct 2013 #51

"Take no chances". Words to live by there Faygo........ socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #68

Yup nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #52

those numbers cited don't make any sense hfojvt Oct 2013 #58

I agree and like I said no one with that kind of debt can afford to retire. 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #73