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44. Hope you are right. n/t

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Sun Oct 13, 2013, 12:58 AM

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This Is a coup [View all] maindawg Oct 2013 OP

It looks like they want a default for sure. Reopening the government won't happen for a long time. AlinPA Oct 2013 #1

There are forces who want to break up the USA and make off with the 50% public land and oil wealth Coyotl Oct 2013 #63

President should invoke the Fourteenth Amendment. nt. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2013 #2

Cruz is gunning to be America's first dictator, he has proven he can control the House GOP and the Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #3

The President can not use executive power to raise the debt ceiling. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #4

Can't say that often enough. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2013 #7

OK, so I'll say it again! DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #17

Unless you want the President to emulate Yeltsin and roll tanks into Congress Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #21

Capitol Police? DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #24

That could be problematic, since ....... oldhippie Oct 2013 #25

Point taken n/t DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #26

It WOULD be emotionally-satisfying� regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #36

It would be a coup, and the United States as we know know it would end. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #37

That's silly & inaccurate. Yeltsin faced tanks to assure control when he already had a winner -- hooverville29 Oct 2013 #56

Taking tanks into Congress would have nothing to do with anything except Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #61

Since some Constitutional scholars do think the 14th amendment is sufficient... Silent3 Oct 2013 #38

The administration is on record that neither their lawyers nor the President Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #39

But we may not get "the only easy way". Silent3 Oct 2013 #40

As a recipient of Veterans benefits and a not being paid because of this shutdown Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #42

While they're looking bad in court (if it came to that), however... Silent3 Oct 2013 #49

Bush was able to get any legal opinion he wanted. grasswire Oct 2013 #54

Presuming that "the House (raising) the debt limit and pass a (CR)..." is never going to happen... Chan790 Oct 2013 #43

We will have to wait and see if the President will make that call. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #46

If it happens he has simply no choice in the matter. joshcryer Oct 2013 #51

The President can simply order bonds to be issued and debts paid. joshcryer Oct 2013 #45

You may be right about him doing that, though it would be grounds for Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #48

Yep, he would then be impeached. joshcryer Oct 2013 #50

I think they'll pay chicken until 11:59 PM on the 16th Warpy Oct 2013 #5

That's my expectation too. Laelth Oct 2013 #22

Hope you are right. n/t Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #44

The TPs want to drive us to martial law. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #6

A coup. Sedition. Treason. Extortion. Illegal and immoral no matter what it's called. Triana Oct 2013 #8

GOTV 2014 Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #11

I knew they always wanted a default and all the koch bros, wall streeters, Cha Oct 2013 #9

Obama is still in the Oval Office, all frederal agencies are under his authority Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #10

Legislative chaos but not a coup. A coup requires a change in the chief executive grantcart Oct 2013 #12

I'm so glad you're here melody Oct 2013 #31

lol thanks grantcart Oct 2013 #52

Yes and no MFrohike Oct 2013 #57

All coups differ in many respects but all have one common feature: control of the military. grantcart Oct 2013 #58

Usually, yes MFrohike Oct 2013 #59

You betcha! blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #13

Well, I think the 1 percenters who really run this Government will not allow this to happen. Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #14

And after they defund the ACA law, what's their plan? ffr Oct 2013 #15

No, Boner needs to call a vote flamingdem Oct 2013 #16

It was a coup in 2000 by SCOTUS. nt valerief Oct 2013 #18

Can someone please ask Bill Clinton what to do? hamsterjill Oct 2013 #19

That's a good idea. Wonder what his advice would be? Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #32

I bet the President and the former President are talking. hamsterjill Oct 2013 #34

The Ultra-rich stop being ultra rich if we blow up the economy Half-Century Man Oct 2013 #20

Spot on. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #23

So are you recommending default? Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #33

No I'm saying the fear is greater for them Half-Century Man Oct 2013 #35

Their mindset is that if they destroy the semi-regulated economy... joshcryer Oct 2013 #47

They want to bring on the end times too. How absurd that the U.S. is being... polichick Oct 2013 #27

For those that say this isn't Sedition, just ask yourself if Teddy Roosevelt was president right now Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #28

Personally whup each and every GOP member of the House, starting with Cruz... Adsos Letter Oct 2013 #29

This is just stupidity and yes it's time for Democrats to take the reins Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2013 #30

If they crash the government, it seems to me we no Cleita Oct 2013 #41

OK. So? What's the counter-coup, other than agree to nothing and let chaos begin? hooverville29 Oct 2013 #53

I agree gopiscrap Oct 2013 #55

2000 was a judicial coup maindawg Oct 2013 #60

Im not crazy maindawg Oct 2013 #62

China awaits. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #64