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freedom fighter jh

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67. There must be some Republicans who are tired of the craziness.

Sun Oct 13, 2013, 09:02 AM

Oct 2013

The stakes are high. The closer we get to default, the greater the damage to the economy. (We don't have to actually default before we get harmed. Last time we came close, our credit rating went down and then we had to pay more interest on our debt.) Yet Republicans voting for this are nuking their relationship with their party.

So it seems to be all or nothing. Maybe a bunch of them will change their party affiliation over this, to Democrat or independent. It's happened in the Senate (Jeffords, Spector). The Republicans are pushing their luck so hard that something like that has to happen. Either that or the nation defaults on its debts.

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House Democrats Pull an End Around To Try To Overthrow Boehner and Reopen Government [View all] Emit Oct 2013 OP

Best of Luck to our House DEMS. Cha Oct 2013 #1

Hope they can pull it off Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #2

Good luck, Dems! GoCubsGo Oct 2013 #3

Discharge Petition. nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #4

They need every democrats + about 17 Republicans for that. It will not work. Mass Oct 2013 #5

last I saw, there were between 20 and 24 GOP who want the clean CR magical thyme Oct 2013 #8

Last I saw, none of them wanted to vote for a clean CR without Boehner's OK. Mass Oct 2013 #9

King (R-NY) might Emit Oct 2013 #47

The difference is between saying they want the gov't re-opened, and signing a discharge petition alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #14

How so? If Republicans sign the petition and get it on the floor cui bono Oct 2013 #48

GOPers are too scared to go against their corporate overlords Iliyah Oct 2013 #25

Their corporate overlords want a clean CR and clean debt ceiling raise as well. phleshdef Oct 2013 #28

Their corporate overlords are begging for a clean CR Recursion Oct 2013 #65

Those republicans Turbineguy Oct 2013 #54

"... can name their price and it shall be paid." greiner3 Oct 2013 #56

They'd never sign the discharge petition. joshcryer Oct 2013 #59

I understand the idea, but it's a mistake. It takes the pressure of the GOP. The GOP stevenleser Oct 2013 #6

I don't see how this takes the pressure off the GOP. magical thyme Oct 2013 #7

Thank you. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2013 #12

I'm saying let the GOP crack themselves into a million pieces when they cave. And they WILL cave. stevenleser Oct 2013 #19

You get that Dems need at least 18 R votes demwing Oct 2013 #32

I do. Everyone in the leadership of the GOP will vote No, they'll get purple or blue state Reps to stevenleser Oct 2013 #43

I think we want the same goal demwing Oct 2013 #45

What makes you think we won't be in this same situation later if they cave? cui bono Oct 2013 #49

Because as Robert Reich suggests in his latest article, their funders will stop funding them. stevenleser Oct 2013 #74

We don't know that they will cave. magical thyme Oct 2013 #61

That's exactly what he's saying. last1standing Oct 2013 #37

No, it isn't. Try asking me instead of inventing what's in my head. nt stevenleser Oct 2013 #42

Discharge petitions are extremely rare. joshcryer Oct 2013 #60

no they won't. they will try to fight it, but won't have any way to. magical thyme Oct 2013 #62

If there is a discharge petition the Hastert rule becomes irrelevant. joshcryer Oct 2013 #64

time will tell whether the sane moderates will sign it or not magical thyme Oct 2013 #69

God to see Dems growing a pair............ Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #10

God speed to them! MoonRiver Oct 2013 #11

PRESSURE. ffr Oct 2013 #13

Historically, discharge petitions fail....... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #15

Are you kidding? Boehner would love this. He's literally dying here with no way out. This gives him stevenleser Oct 2013 #23

You seriously think this is going to happen? Really? dkf Oct 2013 #53

we don't need them to crack into a million pieces. magical thyme Oct 2013 #63

Orange crush time Blue Owl Oct 2013 #16

Likely will not work, but what do I know? Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #17

wow, so there is a way around traitorous traitors, very cool. Raffi Ella Oct 2013 #18

So, are they still working on this, or have they adjourned? Silver Gaia Oct 2013 #20

The traditional lobby groups tell those 17+ the pubs they will be fully funded during a primary Paulie Oct 2013 #21

Last I read, the earliest a discharge petition could force a vote is Oct. 28 onenote Oct 2013 #22

I thought they had found a way around that. randome Oct 2013 #24

Seems to me..... Sophiegirl Oct 2013 #27

This is regards to opening the government, I believe the 10/14 deadline Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #41

Woo-hooo! About time. marble falls Oct 2013 #26

WTF is wrong with the other 7 "dems"? nt valerief Oct 2013 #29

Seems more of a deficit like 14? Good question. Loudly Oct 2013 #31

I thought there were 7 more Dems. I dunno, but all Dems should be signing this. nt valerief Oct 2013 #33

Agreed! Emit Oct 2013 #39

Excellent question! red dog 1 Oct 2013 #36

Good for the Democrats! We demand a vote! mountain grammy Oct 2013 #30

"...pull an end around"? Quantess Oct 2013 #34

I think it means 'loofah maneuver 6B'. randome Oct 2013 #57

Good luck Liberalynn Oct 2013 #35

Way to go, House Dems! raging moderate Oct 2013 #38

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #40

I hope they shove it... IkeRepublican Oct 2013 #44

any news on this yet? flamingdem Oct 2013 #46

Call your Rep and make sure they sign it!!! cui bono Oct 2013 #50

Best of luck guys! Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #51

any dem that does not offer support DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #52

Sometimes I am proud to be a Dem. This is one of those times. BigBearJohn Oct 2013 #55

I'd be surprised if they get enough republicans B Calm Oct 2013 #58

These are the Republican reps that agreed to vote for a CR: moriah Oct 2013 #66

I see our Mr. Wittman on the list. JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #70

There must be some Republicans who are tired of the craziness. freedom fighter jh Oct 2013 #67

Bookmarked. Will call my Rep Monday. Kaleva Oct 2013 #68

It was posted on DU a few days ago... penndragon69 Oct 2013 #71

Yeah, we're all dead melody Oct 2013 #72

As I understand Emit Oct 2013 #73