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Junkdrawer

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43. Arnie Gundersen interview on TheRealNews...
Sun Oct 13, 2013, 12:24 PM
Oct 2013


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But that's not the biggest problem. The biggest problem is that Tokyo Electric has been allowed to continue to operate this plant and try to clean up the site. They're an operator, they're not an engineering firm, so that you've really got the wrong skill set. So you've got the wrong people trying to do the cleanup.

There's one other piece, though, and that piece is the cost. Tokyo Electric doesn't have enough money to do this. I made some recommendations two years ago to prevent this water from going into the Pacific, and I was told Tokyo Electric didn't have enough money to do it. Well, if they had done my recommendations years ago, they wouldn't be in the mess they're in now.

The money's got to come from the nation of Japan. And the Japanese government doesn't want to admit that they're on the hook for half a trillion--that's with a T--half a trillion dollars. And they would rather not tell the Japanese people that, because the Japanese government wants to get 50 nuclear plants up and running, and if the people ever realized the liability that they face, I don't think that would happen.

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But the points we made were, one, you've got to get rid of Tokyo Electric and you've got to replace them with an international engineer. Now, there's maybe half a dozen companies that could do this right.

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Then the last major piece was citizen oversight. I don't believe that the Japanese government wants the people of Japan to know what the heck is going on. And so what the letter recommends is that the contractor that does the cleanup be overseen by a group of citizens--you know, people like me or people with nuclear skills, but they're not connected to the contractor.

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http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=10806

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no one cares maindawg Oct 2013 #1
And if they don't remove the material? MineralMan Oct 2013 #2
It's a major disaster either way malaise Oct 2013 #50
It has been a major disaster since the earthquake and tsunami. MineralMan Oct 2013 #51
Hopefully they'll stop building them malaise Oct 2013 #52
That would be excellent! MineralMan Oct 2013 #53
+1 to this, but I'd say also, people are stupid generally. closeupready Oct 2013 #59
Excuse me? 99Forever Oct 2013 #3
No, that isn't my premise. MineralMan Oct 2013 #4
Sure sounds like it is. 99Forever Oct 2013 #5
Nope. Read it again. MineralMan Oct 2013 #7
K&R nt Bonobo Oct 2013 #6
Thanks. I appreciate that. MineralMan Oct 2013 #8
I think the genuine concern is that Tepco is in charge of the operation muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #9
Perhaps so. However, I've not heard of any proposals that do not involve Tepco. MineralMan Oct 2013 #11
^^This^^ 99Forever Oct 2013 #12
And who would you recommend to be in charge? MineralMan Oct 2013 #14
That's a whole bunch of assuming there. 99Forever Oct 2013 #15
Again, who would you suggest to be in charge of this process? MineralMan Oct 2013 #16
Where have I claimed... 99Forever Oct 2013 #19
No, I don't want anyone to shut up. MineralMan Oct 2013 #24
IAEA oversight might make some more assured. GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #54
That organization is already involved with the Fukushima disaster. MineralMan Oct 2013 #55
No one in Japan wants anything but success and I, for one, greatly appreciate Bonobo Oct 2013 #10
It is my sincere hope that the planning involved in this MineralMan Oct 2013 #13
yes they do need to get the stored stuff off the beach. I suggest storage deep in their mountians Sunlei Oct 2013 #17
My own belief is that no nuclear power plants should have been built anywhere. MineralMan Oct 2013 #20
I agree. They should not have built next to the sea & where it is a fact Tsunamis will come. Sunlei Oct 2013 #26
Yes. But they WERE built. MineralMan Oct 2013 #27
yes it's a clean-up now. They already have dumped enough into the sea to have effect on seafood. Sunlei Oct 2013 #28
Why not shoot for the Moon? randome Oct 2013 #21
Far too much backseat driving on this subject. randome Oct 2013 #18
Yes. I've always opposed nuclear power generation. MineralMan Oct 2013 #22
I was not against it. But I am now. randome Oct 2013 #23
I've been opposed to it since the late 1950s. MineralMan Oct 2013 #25
I'm sorry but I've been here a long time madokie Oct 2013 #47
Building a nuclear plant on a beach in a tsunami/earthquake area Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2013 #29
You are absolutely right. Fukushima should never have been built. MineralMan Oct 2013 #30
But an accupuncturist who thinks that baking soda cures cancer... SidDithers Oct 2013 #31
Yes, well... MineralMan Oct 2013 #32
For Those Who Wonder Why I Oppose Nuclear Power Generation: MineralMan Oct 2013 #33
Arnie Gundersen was asked what he would do if he were in charge: Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #34
Which large engineering company? MineralMan Oct 2013 #36
Arnie says there are 4 or 5 firms capable of the job... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #38
Ah. OK. Well, if you find his list, let me know. MineralMan Oct 2013 #41
I just emailed Arnie. I'll let you know.... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #56
Arnie Gundersen interview on TheRealNews... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #43
I agree with Arne about the need for an international effort. pa28 Oct 2013 #44
The three points he keeps emphasizing: Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #45
Rand Paul says danger is overstated. BootinUp Oct 2013 #35
Does he? MineralMan Oct 2013 #37
Ok, not yet but he probably will, lol. BootinUp Oct 2013 #39
Never mind, then. MineralMan Oct 2013 #40
I had humor though. BootinUp Oct 2013 #42
What is the risk? FreeJoe Oct 2013 #46
The risk is that the fuel rods will break as they're being removed. MineralMan Oct 2013 #48
Good question. Honest answer is No One Knows for Sure..... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #49
The experts are doing the best that is humanly possible to do. What else need be said? nt Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #57
Not all that long ago I learned on DU that it wasnt really a big deal. bunnies Oct 2013 #58
Another important point: there's a bunny with a pancake on its head. closeupready Oct 2013 #60
And let us not foget... bunnies Oct 2013 #61
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