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59. +1 to this, but I'd say also, people are stupid generally.

Sun Oct 13, 2013, 09:19 PM

Oct 2013

The poor state of education being a big part of that.

Anecdotally, I remember something from high school. It was so weird, even at that time, because it was so out of character for the liberal teacher who did it, but we had some kind of social studies class, and we were studying energy sources. Obviously, we got to nuclear, and this normally liberal teacher (one of two, kind of a Woodward/Bernstein duo) became HIGHLY dogmatic on the topic of nuclear energy, demanding acquiescence to the dogma that nuclear is safe, totally safe, period, end of discussion. And I remember his teaching counterpart remained silent, but gave him this weird "what the fuck?" look. And the class also was real silent, you could have heard a pin drop. The class resumed, but I've never forgotten that.

It's hard for me to look back at that day and forgive him for closing both his mind and his student's minds to the discussion of nuclear and it's merits and demerits.

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+1 to this, but I'd say also, people are stupid generally. closeupready Oct 2013 #59

Excuse me? 99Forever Oct 2013 #3

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^^This^^ 99Forever Oct 2013 #12

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