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TreasonousBastard

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21. HA! Around here I have to constantly remind our campaign crew...

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 03:34 AM

Oct 2013

that it's not what we think we're saying, but what "they" think they're hearing. People hear what they want to hear.

You've seen it even here on DU, where someone takes a comment the wrong way and the fight starts. Imagine what it's like when you're not on the same side to begin with.

My Chevy Cruze gets 35-40 mpg and I am both jealous of Prius owners who get better and pissed at truck and SUV owners who get half that when they crank up a pickup to pick up a pizza. But, I just don't talk about it. Ever. I'm trying to get votes, and pissing off voters, even inadvertently, doesn't help.

We all have our own set of sacred and inviolable rights and any time you bring up these rights we will automatically be on the defensive and it's shields up-- we hear through our own set of filters.

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Half The Vehicles In Driveways Huge Gas Guzzling Polluting Trucks. [View all] TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 OP

where was this and what kind of area was it ? JI7 Oct 2013 #1

IT Was In A Wealthier More Red Area In A NW Suburb Of Denver. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #8

the wealthy areas i see tend to be more eco friendly or smaller sports cars but these are mostly Dem JI7 Oct 2013 #12

I Know A Fellow Dems Who Is A Weather Scientist. We Are Toast TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #16

I see PasadenaTrudy Oct 2013 #36

Yeah, so what? Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #2

of course, pollution would be far worse without regulations JI7 Oct 2013 #3

So, my 2009 Ford F-250 4x4 Diesel truck is acceptable to you Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #7

Yes, of course, and we already have exactly that with MPG laws. Coyotl Oct 2013 #6

So, let me see if I understand what you're saying, Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #9

Obviously, you do not understand. Coyotl Oct 2013 #13

Then help me to understand. Ranchemp. Oct 2013 #15

Maybe I can help. Ron Green Oct 2013 #18

Then ONLY way to help you understand Ranchemp is first TURN OFF FOX NEWS kydo Oct 2013 #33

And drop the phony freedumb framing. Orsino Oct 2013 #41

You can own anything you like. Mariana Oct 2013 #22

The government already does tell us what vehicles we can and cannot drive on the road Fumesucker Oct 2013 #24

Uh, they already do ..... oldhippie Oct 2013 #40

Did you get lost? Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #70

MPG laws need to be scrapped in favour of regulations based on carbon dioxide emissions. Spider Jerusalem Oct 2013 #26

Lol, defensive much? nt Logical Oct 2013 #34

I am, yes. Chan790 Oct 2013 #55

Defiance is a good word for it. Denial is too. Major components of teajadism. leveymg Oct 2013 #4

Yes. That Last Couple My Wife Talked To Commented About The RW Attitudes ---- TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #11

It doesn't help that RWers always listen to Limbaugh et al. Mariana Oct 2013 #23

This happened when we let CAFE standards take a break, in the early nineties. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #5

I just bought a larger work truck. A F-150 crew cab. oneshooter Oct 2013 #10

The Mileage Is Better And Some Are Hybrids. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #14

I bought a EcoBoost. 18+ in the city and 23+ on the hiway, depending on the hills. n/c oneshooter Oct 2013 #19

I saw the same thing when I was running for office a year ago. There would sometimes be 3 or 4 Ron Green Oct 2013 #17

HA! Around here I have to constantly remind our campaign crew... TreasonousBastard Oct 2013 #21

Yes, and to be aware of those filters is essential Ron Green Oct 2013 #43

We have a 2001 Ford Ranger pickup, Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #20

I have a '94 F150 TexasProgresive Oct 2013 #30

I have a 4 wd crew cab with a hybrid V8 B Calm Oct 2013 #25

4WD pick-ups in Denver? pintobean Oct 2013 #27

Buy what they need among what's available. jeff47 Oct 2013 #60

In driveways and... pipi_k Oct 2013 #64

Where I live...a commuter town outside of L A...about half of the cars in driveways... Tikki Oct 2013 #28

When gas goes back above $5.00 quaker bill Oct 2013 #29

The One Positive Thing Is These Trucks Are Made In Us. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #31

I have a scooter and that's all I have. Kaleva Oct 2013 #32

We have a 4WD pick-up gollygee Oct 2013 #35

The kinds of cars that are parked in the driveways while the owners are away at work... lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #37

On the bright side, both gasoline consumption and miles driven/year are going down. FarCenter Oct 2013 #38

Huh. If the driveways were full of imports, I'd figure the residents were "determined" to undermine Brickbat Oct 2013 #39

People in Colorado driving 4x4s? NuclearDem Oct 2013 #42

If you are going to have extra vehicles, why not have one for the snow? KurtNYC Oct 2013 #44

The Problem Is Resistance To Doing Anything About Global Warming Which Is What It Really Is. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #49

I agee. Just pointing out that the choice between a commuter car at 25MPG KurtNYC Oct 2013 #54

"Resistance To Doing Anything About Global Warming Which Is What It Really Is" Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #68

Let's just get the car companies turning those into 4x4 electric trucks... JCMach1 Oct 2013 #45

What about Porsches, Corvettes, and Mustangs? Throd Oct 2013 #46

+1 JCMach1 Oct 2013 #47

My friend has a jacked up F250 on 33's that gets 22 MPG on the highway snooper2 Oct 2013 #48

I Have An Old Van That Gets Less Sadly. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #50

Hate, loathe and despise SUV's especially in city traffic Peregrine Took Oct 2013 #51

I'd need more information before I could judge the owners... penultimate Oct 2013 #52

Agreed. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #53

General Transportation Trucks JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #56

People In Certain Occupations And People With Certain Needs Need Heavy Duty Trucks. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2013 #59

We should be moving to natural gas in vehicles JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #62

So you're mad that people drive the least expensive and best milage 4wd vehicles in Denver. jeff47 Oct 2013 #57

We own a big ass truck even though it doesn't get driven much madokie Oct 2013 #58

Same here, '91 Ford F250 with a hairy V-8. I use it once a month. Throd Oct 2013 #65

But when you need it you need it madokie Oct 2013 #69

You observation is spot on for your area. Glassunion Oct 2013 #61

I notice a lot of them in the parking garage at my hospital eilen Oct 2013 #63

Obviously we need more driveways. Orrex Oct 2013 #66

I think a lot of people here buy them for protection. L0oniX Oct 2013 #67