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Fawke Em

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38. Um... in 1860s, only 47 percent of Southerners wanted to secede.

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:56 AM

Oct 2013

* Alabamians voted 54 secessionists and 46 cooperationists to their secession convention.
* The Arkansas Gazette determined that 43% of Arkansas voters voted for secessionist delegates.
* The Georgia Historical Society has determined that only 49% of Georgia voters voted in favor of secessionist delegates, even though those delegates turned around and voted 70% in favor of immediate secession.
* Louisiana voters either voted 4,258 to 3,978 (52%) in favor of secessionist delegates or 20,448 to 17,296 (54%) in favor of secessionist delegates, depending on who you believe.
* North Carolina voters voted 32.5% in favor of secessionist delegates, but voted against holding a secession convention.
* Tennessee voters voted 20% in favor of secessionist delegates, but voted against holding a secession convention.
* Texas was the only state to actually put the issue of secession to a direct voter referendum prior to Fort Sumter. The vote was 76% in favor of secession.

http://civilwartalk.com/threads/how-many-southerners-favored-secession.23264/

I'm going to guess that with all the federal jobs we now have, the number would be a lot less than even that 47 percent from the pre-Civil War era.

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About the South Seceding.... [View all] Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 OP

Some, even here, seem convinced secession is the answer to our problems Hekate Oct 2013 #1

We have more than our share of crazies down here, LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #2

If what you say is true, that a majority of Southerners do not want Secession, then hold a vote MarchemintotheSea Oct 2013 #3

I don't think it's a majority. Mariana Oct 2013 #4

Then put it to a vote and lets see who is correct! MarchemintotheSea Oct 2013 #5

Put it to a vote. So what? Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #8

Who's going to pay for it? You? Mariana Oct 2013 #56

Did I say that? Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #6

Yes I do in fact I think many would quietly accept it MarchemintotheSea Oct 2013 #7

Have you not seen the Moral Monday protests in NC against the GOP. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #10

Yeah I have seen minor ineffective push back. MarchemintotheSea Oct 2013 #14

"minor ineffective push back?!!" please retract this zazen Oct 2013 #32

^---- wish this had a "rec" button nt Mother Of Four Oct 2013 #33

"better off relocating to better places" kentauros Oct 2013 #58

The only people I am aware of that want the South to secede cordelia Oct 2013 #27

There is another group that wants us to secede: kentauros Oct 2013 #59

Absolutely correct. cordelia Oct 2013 #61

Do you blame them? The south keeps sending idiotic teabaggers to DC. Sirveri Oct 2013 #81

Were you replying to me? LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #9

No I was not MarchemintotheSea Oct 2013 #11

Well aren't you a sweetheart. Enjoy your stay. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #12

You know jack about what the South wants AND will quietly accept. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #13

Seeing that I have lived in mutiple Southern locations I think I know a whole lot about the South MarchemintotheSea Oct 2013 #15

I'm a GRITS (Girl Raised In The South) and I'm married to a Yankee - Fawke Em Oct 2013 #67

You are a prime example renie408 Oct 2013 #20

You are incorrect..I don't feel superior at all. I see it as different people who want to live a MarchemintotheSea Oct 2013 #23

Exactly! Jamastiene Oct 2013 #75

In the ten years I've lived in NC... Mother Of Four Oct 2013 #30

You do realize an awful lot of blacks and latinos live in the South, right? Lex Oct 2013 #46

Psstt... it auto corrects on some devices. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #63

Um... in 1860s, only 47 percent of Southerners wanted to secede. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #38

There you go, injecting some historical evidence and logic... YoungDemCA Oct 2013 #83

The legislature in Arkansas pretty much ignored Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #86

Bless your heart! Fumesucker Oct 2013 #16

That's a good point about the Midwest wanting to secede instead. kentauros Oct 2013 #60

Call Them On It. emanymton Oct 2013 #17

I am from Montana and I wish people would stop bashing the South. LiberalLoner Oct 2013 #18

if they openly advocated eliminating most black Americans, half the Hispanics, and most of the poor carolinayellowdog Oct 2013 #24

This. cordelia Oct 2013 #26

Do we really need another poverty-stricken, Third-world country on our southern border? baldguy Oct 2013 #19

I AM NOT advocating for secession. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #22

I have lived in the Deep South my whole life. renie408 Oct 2013 #21

I hear more about the Confederacy and the Civil War on DU Fawke Em Oct 2013 #39

This! Ishoutandscream2 Oct 2013 #54

Yes, indeed! cordelia Oct 2013 #62

^^^^THIS! Jamastiene Oct 2013 #76

Yep. And I can't remember the last time I saw a Confederate flag... renie408 Oct 2013 #77

As a life long citizen of the South, I believe that your short simple post most accurately describes ladjf Oct 2013 #55

The South is seceding? cynatnite Oct 2013 #25

You may wish to brush up on your history. former9thward Oct 2013 #57

My bad. Thanks for correcting me. n/t cynatnite Oct 2013 #71

You are right, grits. brer cat Oct 2013 #28

In Missouri there is a strong sucessionist faction in the Republican Senate. gordianot Oct 2013 #29

People who are for seceding and those who address the topic at all... NCTraveler Oct 2013 #31

Really? Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #35

You read it properly. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #36

Not sure I'd call you fringe but as renie says above... Phentex Oct 2013 #41

As I said, Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #44

A unicorn is also an idea! Phentex Oct 2013 #48

I have seen many threads about secession. Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #49

SEC Football get the red out Oct 2013 #34

LOL... You just made a point for me. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #40

East Temmessee was also Union-friendly. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #37

I must disagree with you. Sissyk Oct 2013 #43

Yup. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #66

TELL ME YOU JUST DID NOT CALL THEM Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #47

My apologies! Fawke Em Oct 2013 #64

Apology accepted! Are_grits_groceries Oct 2013 #68

I'd love to tell you about the T-shirt I saw at a party this weekend. Fawke Em Oct 2013 #82

Also, this, too (in Palin vernacular), your in-state rival is Fawke Em Oct 2013 #84

You get my rec Stinky The Clown Oct 2013 #42

Nothing goes against our founding principles more than secession. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #45

People move, the demographics change in many places IronLionZion Oct 2013 #50

black migration to VA, NC, GA, FL is crucial to turning them "blue" carolinayellowdog Oct 2013 #79

Less about "the south" seceding.. karadax Oct 2013 #51

It would be messy. I live in New Orleans and we unwillingly support the rest of the State Katashi_itto Oct 2013 #52

Please call Randy Hultgren, R-IL, 202-225-2976. raging moderate Oct 2013 #53

The South can't afford to secede. They need Federal dollars to survive. TeamPooka Oct 2013 #65

The stupid teabggers and racists are controlling PA; the governor is a teabagger, they control the AlinPA Oct 2013 #69

Book recomendation nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #70

When I was growing up here in the South, I NEVER heard about the Confederacy steve2470 Oct 2013 #72

K&R Jamastiene Oct 2013 #73

This is for all of those that have stated kentauros Oct 2013 #74

Better idea - let's ship 'em all to Somalia instead. Initech Oct 2013 #78

The Presidential map showed significant Blue in Alabama. The state went for Romney, but not bluestate10 Oct 2013 #80

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #85