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101. When is Ayn Rand *really* going to die?

Mon Mar 5, 2012, 03:12 AM

Mar 2012

How far we have fallen as a society -- and how quickly -- when we have people seriously arguing that we should not be using federal funds to assist those who are victims of natural disasters? Are such debates going on in any other country that dares call itself "civilized?" Ayn Rand thinking is rapidly destroying this country.

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If you live in Tornado Alley, blame yourself. Ron Paul says no emergency financial aid to those [View all] demtenjeep Mar 2012 OP

At least he is consistent and doesn't pander Nancy Waterman Mar 2012 #1

Agree'd CoreyAndrews Mar 2012 #4

You are 100% wrong. Lasher Mar 2012 #9

It's pandering to everyone who isn't in tornado alley. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2012 #19

He panders to those who don't want to pay taxes, and fuck everyone else! LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #104

You could say the same of all those popes who refused to believe the Earth was round... Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #120

No. He's a d.i.c.k. and this proves his ideology flamingdem Mar 2012 #138

I was wondering who would be the first BumRushDaShow Mar 2012 #2

I heard that Gov Kasich refused immediate federal assistance. libinnyandia Mar 2012 #5

I also saw that Gov. Mitch Daniels BumRushDaShow Mar 2012 #10

Incorrect. Myrina Mar 2012 #27

Except that he distanced himself from it BumRushDaShow Mar 2012 #34

Insurance means SHIT! Just ask the people whose homes were destroyed by Hurricane Katrina. txwhitedove Mar 2012 #3

+1000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Mar 2012 #15

ron paul must be living in lalaland newspeak Mar 2012 #112

I'll toss in another +1000 for people with super-high insurance premiums. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #22

Damn Skippy. nolabear Mar 2012 #23

Building in disaster zones is a stupid idea. boppers Mar 2012 #6

If you include earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, flash floods, etc., Suich Mar 2012 #7

It's all about safety and mitigation. boppers Mar 2012 #40

And don't forget volcanoes. Zalatix Mar 2012 #92

The whole world is a disaster zone. canoeist52 Mar 2012 #8

Risk is relative. boppers Mar 2012 #41

Huh? You mean like that Hurricane that did NOT hit New York last year??? txwhitedove Mar 2012 #72

Was it declared a disaster area? boppers Mar 2012 #77

You are playing Devil's Advocate, but it isn't cool. No, it doesn't happen in NY every year. txwhitedove Mar 2012 #79

If you live in a disaster area, prepare for it. boppers Mar 2012 #81

Who is not preparing for it? LanternWaste Mar 2012 #114

My friends and I have formed a group to prepare for disasters. Lasher Mar 2012 #119

... but that does rule out a lot of the US. Tornadoes are all over the place, anymore, as RKP5637 Mar 2012 #11

How many tornadoes does Maine have? California? Utah? boppers Mar 2012 #43

The entire bread basket of the US is tornado-prone. You kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #52

Don't live there in above ground, east coast style, housing. boppers Mar 2012 #58

Well, NH does'nt have many tornadoes Mopar151 Mar 2012 #57

We had a tornado in Connecticut (and southern Mass) last year. Jennicut Mar 2012 #140

Are we moving the entire country to a handful of states? n/t RKP5637 Mar 2012 #74

If you want to live in SFO, get an earthquake-ready house. boppers Mar 2012 #82

Don't tornadoes, for example, seem to be popping up all over the place anymore? Some things RKP5637 Mar 2012 #85

some years ago newspeak Mar 2012 #115

If you buy into a scam you lose. boppers Mar 2012 #127

Practically everywhere in the US is safe from tsunamis Art_from_Ark Mar 2012 #142

Basements demtenjeep Mar 2012 #86

....Which allow the whole whouse to be destroyed, wasting thousands or millions. boppers Mar 2012 #88

Um, not everyone can afford to buy a house. let alone a disaster-safe one. Vattel Mar 2012 #136

I did not say "buy", eom boppers Mar 2012 #141

well, salt lake city did have a tornado some years ago newspeak Mar 2012 #117

Tornado Alley covers a huge part of the midwest. modem77 Mar 2012 #12

...and people there keep building above-ground housing. boppers Mar 2012 #44

Why ProSense Mar 2012 #14

Oh, first ever for february! boppers Mar 2012 #46

Ah ProSense Mar 2012 #59

I try to avoid natural disaster areas. boppers Mar 2012 #65

tornados have occured in every state, in every month of the year. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #110

Tornadoes do not occur in every state, in every month, of the year. boppers Mar 2012 #123

Check it out. I said they have happened in every state in every month. Not all the time. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #128

With equal frequencies? boppers Mar 2012 #130

What's the use? hobbit709 Mar 2012 #131

Math and statistics is such a hassle! boppers Mar 2012 #134

People who live on the slopes of a volcano shouldn't criticize hobbit709 Mar 2012 #137

The whole world is a disaster zone RC Mar 2012 #18

Do you think all places are equally safe? boppers Mar 2012 #48

+1000 Dokkie Mar 2012 #64

You can of course provide us with an objective, peer-reviewed list of regions that are not susceptib LanternWaste Mar 2012 #116

Sure, any idiot can do actuarials. boppers Mar 2012 #126

Let us list some states that would be "stupid ideas" to build in according to this logic The Genealogist Mar 2012 #29

Don't forget Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and South Carolina. Fawke Em Mar 2012 #35

I live in North Georgia in an area considered as Tornado Alley. RebelOne Mar 2012 #63

If you add up the "natural disaster declarations" for those states, you will find: boppers Mar 2012 #49

Where do YOU live, you so smart? Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #33

Portland, Oregon, on the "ring of fire". boppers Mar 2012 #50

You are extremely naive to think that stick houses can't fall in a quake. kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #53

Oh, they fall, too, in severe enough quakes. boppers Mar 2012 #55

You may be think that you are safe. TexasTowelie Mar 2012 #91

Yeah, I've tracked growth up and down my street and with my neighbors. boppers Mar 2012 #97

I grew up in Portland! Suich Mar 2012 #54

"Stick" meaning *not* brick/mortar. boppers Mar 2012 #56

LOL! I always called it "wood frame!" Suich Mar 2012 #61

I grew up in southern AZ. Lots of brick, mud. boppers Mar 2012 #70

You're not immune to the effects of wind Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #95

Yeah, 50 year storms compare to annual storms. boppers Mar 2012 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #129

Wait til the 9.0 hits. Or one of those beautiful mountains decides to blow. hobbit709 Mar 2012 #111

Bullshit. Arkana Mar 2012 #38

Let's not forget the hurricaine damage done to Vermont, upstate NY... JHB Mar 2012 #42

+1 Little Star Mar 2012 #47

Are they all equal? Nope. boppers Mar 2012 #51

What ProSense Mar 2012 #62

It makes a difference for those who repeatedly pay for bad decisions. boppers Mar 2012 #67

That's ProSense Mar 2012 #68

So, we should subsidize oil? Because it's trivial? boppers Mar 2012 #69

Wait ProSense Mar 2012 #71

Strawman. Post disaster funding should be used to remove, and re-educate, people... boppers Mar 2012 #73

That's ProSense Mar 2012 #78

What? boppers Mar 2012 #80

Seems ProSense Mar 2012 #84

Libertarians are worse for society than Republicans. onehandle Mar 2012 #13

I agree. Lasher Mar 2012 #39

hey Dirtbag! These are the folks who grow what you stuff in your maw every day! Warpy Mar 2012 #16

+1,000,000!!! Zalatix Mar 2012 #93

I hope he remembers that statement the next time TBF Mar 2012 #17

Nice catch. Send that around! alittlelark Mar 2012 #26

Ron Paul ProSense Mar 2012 #20

Not just a moron, but a hypocritical one - TBF Mar 2012 #21

I use this chart a lot when it comes to "Mr. Anti-Corporatism". HughBeaumont Mar 2012 #139

Oh Ron you just make me feel all warm and fuzzy. n/t sandyj999 Mar 2012 #24

It's our own fault if we live in Tornado Alley? 2pooped2pop Mar 2012 #25

yeah, well, with his ideology newspeak Mar 2012 #118

GOP'ers ought to live up to their 'small gov't' and 'no welfare' meme ... Myrina Mar 2012 #28

Does that include areas subject to hurricanes, wildfires, earthquakes, blizzards, etcetera? TheWraith Mar 2012 #30

so he wants to mandate insurance....hmmmmm spanone Mar 2012 #31

When did the South become tornado ally? get the red out Mar 2012 #32

"Dixie Alley" is one of four high-activity zones. piedmont Mar 2012 #99

I live in the south and the area I live in wasn't prone to tornados. But one came about 2 miles southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #36

He is the very definition of heartless bastard. Arkana Mar 2012 #37

I live in "Tornado Alley" I also lived through the 91 Andover/Wichita tornado demtenjeep Mar 2012 #45

Dear Mr. Paul randr Mar 2012 #60

Why people adore this man Texasgal Mar 2012 #66

Paul says he'd legalize weed, audit the fed and end the wars Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #121

What a hateful ass - if he hates government so much, why does he want to be a part of it mtnester Mar 2012 #75

He also thinks that those who live near water are on their annabanana Mar 2012 #76

If I build up on the hill, and you build on the beach, why should I subsidize your error? boppers Mar 2012 #83

So ProSense Mar 2012 #87

Tornadoes prefer flats. Like beaches. Plains. boppers Mar 2012 #89

Thanks ProSense Mar 2012 #90

Your proposition seems to lack cohesion. boppers Mar 2012 #105

Those people in Aumsville, Oregon that were hit with a tornado in December 2010 live in neverforget Mar 2012 #94

They're still plans. boppers Mar 2012 #106

You are propagating a myth. piedmont Mar 2012 #98

Thank you. laundry_queen Mar 2012 #109

Sorry for physics. boppers Mar 2012 #125

Mountainous east TN was gettig tornados Lars39 Mar 2012 #113

Up on the hill?? Closer to the lightning??! annabanana Mar 2012 #107

Water grounds more. boppers Mar 2012 #122

I'm sure it will all blow over mindwalker_i Mar 2012 #96

I'm tired of idealogues. I just want someone with common sense. JNathanK Mar 2012 #100

When is Ayn Rand *really* going to die? Brigid Mar 2012 #101

She was dead inside the day she was "born". . . n/t annabanana Mar 2012 #108

I say, let's lend each other a hand. JDPriestly Mar 2012 #102

If Ron Paul REALLY wants to live somewhere without such aid, he should try Haiti. alp227 Mar 2012 #103

How does one wish to socialize costs? quaker bill Mar 2012 #132

unbelievable my sister says there is a picture of a tornado victims house demtenjeep Mar 2012 #133

He didn't do so well in Oklahoma last night. JVS Mar 2012 #135