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charmay

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107. After getting stuck with Koch puppet Wanker and Teabagger Duffy, I'll vote for any democrat

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Mon Oct 14, 2013, 09:20 PM

Oct 2013

on the ticket. I know first-hand the damage inflicted by republicans. The thought of a president Ryan makes me sick.

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To DEFEAT The Tea Party, The LEFT Needs BOLDER LEADER Than Hillary [View all] Segami Oct 2013 OP

We need to clean out the House of Representatives and State Houses. gordianot Oct 2013 #1

So what's 'Plan B'? randome Oct 2013 #2

We have a somewhat weak bench... Agschmid Oct 2013 #40

I hear you. But Obama was a regional player, too. randome Oct 2013 #46

Amen. Agschmid Oct 2013 #54

She's not my ideal candidate, but she would destroy any Teabagger they threw against her, geek tragedy Oct 2013 #3

Thank You! MFM008 Oct 2013 #30

She will make them all look mean and stupid. Orsino Oct 2013 #39

I'd like for people to start naming their ideal choices... Agschmid Oct 2013 #41

You could just say "electability" right now, and save us the trouble. n/t Orsino Oct 2013 #97

That is absolutely not what I said. Agschmid Oct 2013 #108

LOL. From Sean McElwee, a Reason Foundation alumnus. pinto Oct 2013 #4

ah the libertarians, thanks grantcart Oct 2013 #11

lol I see David Koch of Koch Industries is on the board along with other insane folks. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #17

Valid question... Agschmid Oct 2013 #42

One must wonder....but not for very long... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #82

I see, a Libertarian. Beacool Oct 2013 #60

Hillary has never been a leader for the Left Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #5

Well said... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #13

very well said DonCoquixote Oct 2013 #34

if i count right -- i am +3 on your comments. agreed. nt xchrom Oct 2013 #37

But who on the left can we develop to stand up to these Tea-partiers TheDebbieDee Oct 2013 #55

I agree with you; I just don't know who that would be. alarimer Oct 2013 #69

To get a true progressive agenda, probably true. But to defeat the Tea Party, No. Tom Rinaldo Oct 2013 #6

I think Hillary would govern center-center based on the momentum the left has now. busterbrown Oct 2013 #7

Your concern is noted. Pisces Oct 2013 #8

I had to scroll quite far down to find it! Agschmid Oct 2013 #44

Don't Know What You Are Thinking Stallion Oct 2013 #9

the democrats' "middle"has moved so farright it is barely recognizeable sometimes nt msongs Oct 2013 #12

clearly mistaken beachbum bob Oct 2013 #10

"garner" ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #14

don't cast asparagus at new posters, k thx dionysus Oct 2013 #47

It was a rather unseemly jester on my part... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #48

Yes, it is definitely time to move away from the �New Democrat�/Third Way-style of governing. Zorra Oct 2013 #15

The Left doesn't need a leader...it needs a constituency alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #16

Someone who SPEAKS in CAPS at ALL TIMES. WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #18

Nothing to say... Segami Oct 2013 #23

If there is a stronger Democratic candidate Shankapotomus Oct 2013 #19

How is a Liberal 3rd party worse than a conservative 3rd way? RC Oct 2013 #77

"Good Morning President Ryan...Vice President Cruz....coffee?" VanillaRhapsody Oct 2013 #83

So we are to continue following the Right-wing ever farther to the Right, till we go over the cliff? RC Oct 2013 #84

It wouldn't be worse Shankapotomus Oct 2013 #87

We just keep following the ever Right ward march of the Democrats till we all go over the cliff too? RC Oct 2013 #90

I agree Shankapotomus Oct 2013 #94

a question from Senator Edwards AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #20

I think she's too enamored of the Washington cocktail party scene to be effective tularetom Oct 2013 #21

Yes, she's had loads of time to swan around in the Washington cocktail scene tavernier Oct 2013 #45

The Washington cocktail scene? Beacool Oct 2013 #49

As I recall Sally Quinn totally trashed her for NOT being part of the cocktail crowd. DURHAM D Oct 2013 #96

Yes, I remember. Beacool Oct 2013 #98

Tea Party favorability is at 21%: any Democrat can "beat" that frazzled Oct 2013 #22

K & R, exactly, the Tea Party needs to go, the GOP leadership is too weak to help Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #26

How about letting primary voters decide? wyldwolf Oct 2013 #24

I've already seen an "It's time for Hillary" bumper sticker down here Rstrstx Oct 2013 #25

Who? Who is this leader? That's where the rubber hits the road. JHB Oct 2013 #27

The Ahmadinejad Postulate Turbineguy Oct 2013 #28

Well yeah... like maybe someone who is actually on the left!?!?! cui bono Oct 2013 #29

Hillary is hardly center right. If you want to beat her fine but don't make stuff up coldmountain Oct 2013 #61

Excellent recording of true facts. Thank you for this. I'm tired of hearing.... northoftheborder Oct 2013 #63

While all that may be true, it doesn't put her on the left or make her a liberal. cui bono Oct 2013 #67

She is hardly a liberal or on the left. cui bono Oct 2013 #65

Liberal activists warm to Hillary Clinton for president coldmountain Oct 2013 #70

That says nothing about her actually being on the left. n/t cui bono Oct 2013 #71

�The fact that she makes 2016 uninteresting makes that attractive,� said Markos Moulitsas coldmountain Oct 2013 #72

Most of the country doesn't know what a real liberal or lefty is any more. cui bono Oct 2013 #73

That says keeping another Bush/Cheney or even worse out of the White House coldmountain Oct 2013 #75

That's an entirely different issue than whether or not Hillary is a liberal or left. n/t cui bono Oct 2013 #85

Liberal is in the eye of the beholder. Just electing a Democratic woman is liberal at this point coldmountain Oct 2013 #95

No it is not! Liberal actually means something. cui bono Oct 2013 #100

Hillary's Wellesley speeches are liberal coldmountain Oct 2013 #101

Did you read the Common Dreams article at all? cui bono Oct 2013 #103

I don't doubt her boldness in defeating the Tea Party - Can we get beyond just defeating the crazies Douglas Carpenter Oct 2013 #31

I will side with whomever OFA gets behind. BluegrassStateBlues Oct 2013 #32

Me, too. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #51

The Tea Party has already defeated itself, plus half their old white guys will be dead by 2016. Coyotl Oct 2013 #33

That woman is NOT left or even close to being. 99Forever Oct 2013 #35

This article seems to confuse "bold" with "farther left" Recursion Oct 2013 #36

We need bolder and more benevolent leadership to survive the coming decades. Orsino Oct 2013 #38

At this point, defeating the Tea Party may require little more than a candidate with a pulse. n/t Silent3 Oct 2013 #43

Sure, Hillary will just rollover for the Tea Party. Beacool Oct 2013 #50

I agree. If ever there was a woman who could stand her own against any politician, it's Hillary. BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #53

Goodness knows that she's taken enough abuse from the Right and the Left too. Beacool Oct 2013 #57

No doubt about it. And the thing is, the Right is afraid of her, that's why they're trying BlueCaliDem Oct 2013 #74

Me too. Beacool Oct 2013 #79

Hillary is tough as nails and she will WIN 2016 underthematrix Oct 2013 #105

Who you got? Iggo Oct 2013 #52

Same candidate that ran in the 2012 primary against Obama. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #91

After Kerry lost, I tuned out politics for 3 years. LittleBlue Oct 2013 #56

president obama is doing just fine nt arely staircase Oct 2013 #58

I don't know about that. Hillary has her some brass ovaries. Lil Missy Oct 2013 #59

Please O Please! Phlem Oct 2013 #62

Hillary is not a person of the left. She does not represent the left. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #64

Like Dr. Dean!! knitter4democracy Oct 2013 #66

I could get behind that candidacy. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #80

The Teapers have quite effectively worn out their own brand IDemo Oct 2013 #68

Hillary would never have wasted time trying to appease these teabagging bastards Skittles Oct 2013 #76

Well... MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #81

Clinton fabulists Skittles Oct 2013 #86

Snarky article. Beacool Oct 2013 #99

If she is our candidate, I'll happily endorse her. Old and In the Way Oct 2013 #78

she has been dealing with these fucks since 1992 scheming daemons Oct 2013 #88

Hillary is not a leader of "the left." LWolf Oct 2013 #89

That's the truth. nt silvershadow Oct 2013 #92

Hillary is a fighter and stands behind many progressive issues. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #93

Sometimes people know every R is a POS, that's why Phlem Oct 2013 #106

I agree that the party needs to try leaning to the left. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #109

Bill Clinton, Obama, and I would expect Hillary are 3rd way Democrats. Phlem Oct 2013 #110

Agree with everything in your post. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2013 #111

DU tried to run Kurovski/WetzellBill in '08 Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #102

I'd really like to see Bernie Sanders run. A lot...n/t ms liberty Oct 2013 #104

After getting stuck with Koch puppet Wanker and Teabagger Duffy, I'll vote for any democrat charmay Oct 2013 #107

PS.. Phlem Oct 2013 #112