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hunter

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43. Just as there will be alcohol and opiate addicts.

Mon Oct 14, 2013, 11:56 PM

Oct 2013

They'll still be a danger to themselves and others, but they probably won't be stealing fire hydrants.

Treat it as a public health problem. Aim for the harm reduction. If that means clean, safe, supervised houses for addicts, with prescribed meds, so be it...

Give addicts a place to go, maybe even get treatment when they are ready for that. Arrange it so they've got no reason, even crazy reasons, for committing crimes.

Harm reduction is what to aim for, not "War on Drugs." End the criminal market by offering their best customers something better, something safer, free.

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Scrap metal thieves grab fire hydrants in Irvine [View all] Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 OP

Doesnt that leave a rather big mess? DJ13 Oct 2013 #1

Shut-off valves are but a few steps away Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #5

Thanks DJ13 Oct 2013 #8

Next time you're out and about and spy a hydrant.... Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #15

The water doesn't come out until you turn the valve, kentauros Oct 2013 #11

that's for Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #20

Yes, I understand there are different kinds for every region. kentauros Oct 2013 #23

That's a dry barrel hydrant for cold regions Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #22

While I was searching for a diagramatic representation of a fire hydrant, kentauros Oct 2013 #24

it makes those easy Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #31

Even faster with the rear end of a heavy truck bumper Brother Buzz Oct 2013 #33

most places watch now Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #34

Doesn't the recycling place know Politicalboi Oct 2013 #2

People don't have fire hydrants just laying around. PeteSelman Oct 2013 #3

$300 ?? What are they made of? GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #4

Cast iron/brass valves...nt Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 #7

$300? Isn't that a scant reward for the trouble it takes to remove them? Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #6

With the right tools and knowledge Mariana Oct 2013 #9

300 x 5 = 1500 tax free Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 #10

I guess I thought if you're getting into crime, it should at least be worthwhile Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #13

I don't know if that is the case here JonLP24 Oct 2013 #16

A few were going around Phoenix stealing bronze vases from cemetaries JonLP24 Oct 2013 #12

JESUS H. CHRIST Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #17

$480 for a bronze vase? Art_from_Ark Oct 2013 #40

You're right JonLP24 Oct 2013 #41

This is pretty common. Glassunion Oct 2013 #14

They stole some water valves outside the factory where my friend worked Jesus Malverde Oct 2013 #19

Irvine is perfect for this. It's almost uninhabited on weekends. dogknob Oct 2013 #18

They notice missing fire hydrants but seem not to notice that Irvine has no soul. KurtNYC Oct 2013 #21

I have a lot of old metal junk downstairs... Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #25

Definitely JonLP24 Oct 2013 #27

Would that be in Colorado? Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #28

East Valley of Phoenix JonLP24 Oct 2013 #30

A buddy of mine had $3000 dollars in scrap in his garage when his father died. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2013 #35

my grandfather ran a dental lab in the basement - still have a lot of powders Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #36

If we had guaranteed minimum income in this country Here Oct 2013 #26

You don't understand tweekers. Throd Oct 2013 #37

Guaranteed minimum income AND an end to the drug war. hunter Oct 2013 #39

And there will still be tweekers. Throd Oct 2013 #42

Just as there will be alcohol and opiate addicts. hunter Oct 2013 #43

How about the recycling yards. ??? The Police should bust their asses like a D-7 Caterpillar tractor BlueJazz Oct 2013 #29

There have been thefts of manhole covers RebelOne Oct 2013 #32

Jesus Christ, nothing's safe anymore gopiscrap Oct 2013 #38

One of the ways to avoid scrap metal theft JP0 Oct 2013 #44