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ejpoeta

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168. look, I think the reason people are expressing this view is that these are the same people

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 06:49 AM

Oct 2013

who think anyone else who gets help from the government is somehow a taker. It may not be "everyone" but from other posts it seems these folks voted for the people who helped shut down the government. Now they are seeing the repercussions of that. While I wish that they could get the help they need, you cannot ignore the fact that many of these folks WANTED this. They just didn't know that it would mean they would be personally affected. It doesn't make people the flip side of conservatives, as a majority of these folks voted for this shutdown by electing folks who would shut down the government. One could hope that this would give them more insight as to what they are advocating for when they support certain things. There are always going to be consequences. It's too bad that folks that didn't support this get stuck in the fallout too.

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Ranchers who supported Tea Party shutdown stunned at lack of federal aid. [View all] geek tragedy Oct 2013 OP

Selfish creeps. "Screw everyone else but give us taxpayer money!" Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #1

Giant sense of entitlement nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #2

If you want to see hubris, go hunt on BLM land out west and watch the ranchers try to kick you off Drahthaardogs Oct 2013 #30

I'll have to take your word for it, even if armed myself being around those fellows while they geek tragedy Oct 2013 #31

Times like theses Heather MC Oct 2013 #56

totally disconnected BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2013 #120

I live in SD and am unfortunate enough to be represented liberalhistorian Oct 2013 #123

Whew! Tell us how you really feel! supernova Oct 2013 #127

Great post Not Sure Oct 2013 #137

Man, there are a LOT of contenders for that title! jmowreader Oct 2013 #150

Wow, you have my sympathy..what a horrific mess. n/t Jefferson23 Oct 2013 #143

Stephanie Herseth lost to THIS woman? hatrack Oct 2013 #173

+1 Enthusiast Oct 2013 #176

Call her and bitch about this Doctor_J Oct 2013 #216

As a former resident of that state, all I can do is shrug. Decent people, but not the brightest. TwilightGardener Oct 2013 #3

decent people have empathy for others Skittles Oct 2013 #12

But how many of them "got it"? Quantess Oct 2013 #155

They believe hurricane relief Enthusiast Oct 2013 #177

At least they don't have dead bodies floating in their streets. Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #224

+1 n/t n2doc Oct 2013 #192

Decent is as decent does. dchill Oct 2013 #91

Farm subsidies are scheduled to end as no new bill has been passed. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #4

EXCELLENT. As a former resident of Montana, I have nothing but contempt Nay Oct 2013 #188

Indeed it's a nice gig. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #200

The farm bill expired on October 1st. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #201

You can actually look up subsidy payments to farmers by name now NickB79 Oct 2013 #220

It appears Mr. Reder has received almost $300K in farm subsidies NickB79 Oct 2013 #237

Well.... get the red out Oct 2013 #5

Your last question Delphinus Oct 2013 #106

Yeah, no shit. +1,000,000 calimary Oct 2013 #109

wtf did they think would happen? Drum Oct 2013 #6

Let me tell you what they thought would happen--that it wouldn't affect decent white people. msanthrope Oct 2013 #42

Exactly correct BrotherIvan Oct 2013 #53

So what are they whining about if 'decent white people don't use the government'? SammyWinstonJack Oct 2013 #65

+1000 Blue_Tires Oct 2013 #67

Yeppers. theHandpuppet Oct 2013 #69

+ 1000 nt ecstatic Oct 2013 #101

+1 f'kin A n/t L0oniX Oct 2013 #104

Sad but undoubtedly true. These selfish heartless assholes never think about calimary Oct 2013 #111

Well, when you consider how many of them were raging tblue37 Oct 2013 #139

Yeah Dick the Cheney thinks he pulled himself up by his own boot straps fasttense Oct 2013 #169

Cheney used his political connections to arrange government contracts tblue37 Oct 2013 #190

Wow! I like your attitude and verbiage. You should write for a Dem politician. Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #140

He's my hero! Well, one of 'em anyway! calimary Oct 2013 #145

^^^THIS^^^ freshwest Oct 2013 #121

So maybe the shutdown isn't so bad if it teaches those assholes a lesson and Auntie Bush Oct 2013 #135

Yup. Sparkly Oct 2013 #160

the funny thing about that is that the money we 'easterners' pay in taxes ejpoeta Oct 2013 #167

+1 Enthusiast Oct 2013 #179

That's always the case NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #214

Agreed sakabatou Oct 2013 #152

I cannot even wrap my head around the hypocrisy of these of the so-called conservatives... GentryDixon Oct 2013 #7

Love this AAO Oct 2013 #45

The worst part of this whole thing Lordquinton Oct 2013 #75

Empty, poorly-considered positions come home to roost, don't they Blue Owl Oct 2013 #8

see, "they" deserve federal aid, but "those people" do not Skittles Oct 2013 #9

Let's call it what is is, Skittles--see my post # 42... msanthrope Oct 2013 #46

of course it is racism Skittles Oct 2013 #50

You got that right. nt msanthrope Oct 2013 #54

Well, that's the thing. TDale313 Oct 2013 #10

These ranchers (and their neighbor farmers) have been suckling at the federal teat for decades. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #13

Sadly, you're not wrong. TDale313 Oct 2013 #16

the epitome of stupidity noiretextatique Oct 2013 #21

The Tea Party crowd are just totally avebury Oct 2013 #11

This. nxylas Oct 2013 #163

Cattle ranchers can drop dead. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #14

Time they stepped away from Cha Oct 2013 #15

Imagine that! elleng Oct 2013 #17

Oh, my! Their ox got gored. Lars39 Oct 2013 #18

literally! nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #52

Good. Now the truly small, responsible, environmentally friendly organic family farmers kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #19

Who knew? libdem4life Oct 2013 #20

The guv'mint ain't so bad when they need something. City Lights Oct 2013 #22

*rrrrrrinnng!* "It's for you. Sez their name is Carmen somebody..." n/t TygrBright Oct 2013 #23

You'd think that for all the money they sent to teahadist candidates.... HooptieWagon Oct 2013 #24

Are we learning now, rugged individualist ranchers & GOP voters? hatrack Oct 2013 #25

+100 for "rugged individualist ranchers" truebluegreen Oct 2013 #215

Clueless! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #26

This is like Ayn Rand taking Social Security and Medicare. Brigid Oct 2013 #27

Same thing......nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #181

Normally I would feel bad, but these shitheads made their bed. Arkana Oct 2013 #28

It is the same in Oklahoma. redstatebluegirl Oct 2013 #29

Here's a link to the US farm subsidy database: factsarenotfair Oct 2013 #32

There's that old saying in Tennessee and Texas Politicalboi Oct 2013 #33

You misunderestimated yourself! AAO Oct 2013 #55

Ranchers in other states best take heed of this lesson. Support the Tea Party/Rabid Republicans bent Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #34

Yeah, been saying it for years Ahpook Oct 2013 #78

They'll just think Obama shut off aid in retaliation for the shutdown, because... Beartracks Oct 2013 #35

This is correct. It's maddening. Ed Suspicious Oct 2013 #57

Better be careful GT, I was shot down on a similar post this weekend.... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #36

Context is everything--having Tea Partiers complain about the lack of a government shutdown geek tragedy Oct 2013 #38

I guess that was my mistake, I did not realize teapartiers were posting here. Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #39

But dear, if you douse yourself with honey, don't complain IrishAyes Oct 2013 #66

Thanks, I have been dealing with the bees and bears for many years. Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #73

Thank you. I respect your intelligence enough to figure you know what you're doing. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #79

Just for you.... Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #83

Thanks again. IrishAyes Oct 2013 #88

That was a good one.......nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #185

the rooster came home to rest Skittles Oct 2013 #226

What goes around-- comes around! Bite ya' cowboys in the a$$!! hue Oct 2013 #37

+1 Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #41

Hoisted on their own petard zatoichiicc Oct 2013 #40

It really is sad that the cattle are dying that way but, how can they expect help from a government appleannie1 Oct 2013 #43

They must all be 'takers' and 'useless eaters'. Only those type of people whine about their handouts Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #44

This story just one illustration of the difference between liberal and conservative philosophies maui902 Oct 2013 #47

Yup. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #186

I don't think they understood. Turbineguy Oct 2013 #48

Just exactly WTF... Blue Idaho Oct 2013 #49

Beware what you ask for... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #51

"Karma" indeed. nt Tarheel_Dem Oct 2013 #58

But this wasn't supposed to happen to white job "creators" Ruby the Liberal Oct 2013 #59

I don't agree with their politics but they are hard working, decent people munster69 Oct 2013 #60

They're not all decent people. A lot of them are selfish, ignorant hypocrites. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #68

They're all in favor of letting small children go hungry (big supporters of SNAP cuts) geek tragedy Oct 2013 #72

They don't get one second of sympathy from me susanr516 Oct 2013 #94

+1000 to this distantearlywarning Oct 2013 #195

Hard working, decent nitwits. distantearlywarning Oct 2013 #95

Teabaggers are not decent people. They're moron anarchists. nt valerief Oct 2013 #131

Sure, they may be hard working "decent people", meanit Oct 2013 #133

Actions. Have. Consequences. hatrack Oct 2013 #172

Exactly, we would be no better than they are IronLionZion Oct 2013 #184

They learned nothing....nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #187

They are far from decent. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #206

Heartless responses here, really. Dash87 Oct 2013 #211

No sympathy for the t-baggers here nt Progressive dog Oct 2013 #61

Always supports himself without the government, yet knows the FSA was locked up and closed. obxhead Oct 2013 #62

Agreed, Karma. Reap what you sow. nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2013 #63

They really have a problem with that whole action/consequences equation. tanyev Oct 2013 #64

Wow. Mind boggling ignorance. TeeYiYi Oct 2013 #70

What the FUCK did those idiots expect? Warpy Oct 2013 #71

so it comes as a shock when they realize azurnoir Oct 2013 #74

These people are so fucking stupid ellie Oct 2013 #76

What happened to 'personal responsibility' ???? n/t durablend Oct 2013 #77

What in hell happened to the ability to predict the results of one's actions? PDJane Oct 2013 #80

These assholes make me kind of wish the shutdown would continue for awhile Downtown Hound Oct 2013 #81

racist JI7 Oct 2013 #82

Life really sucks, don't it? Rex Oct 2013 #84

Shutdown means shutdown. Not everything but the parts that pertain to you. nt eilen Oct 2013 #85

We are "In This Together" or we aren't...the ambivalence of Dakotans is NOT helpful HereSince1628 Oct 2013 #86

On the "karma" comments, I respectfully disagree. I think a better word is Shampoobra Oct 2013 #87

Same folk screaming about food stamp recipients DUgosh Oct 2013 #89

They truly do no understand that SNAP is a back-door farm subsidy. The demand created by SNAP Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #142

The greater good. leanforward Oct 2013 #90

I just kicked and recommended this thread, I read a lot and post little...... Thucydides Oct 2013 #92

Make Washington More Fiscally Responsible IkeRepublican Oct 2013 #93

Recent history shows that they aren't the least concerned Enthusiast Oct 2013 #189

So they don't believe in climate change, and they are good with the Tea Party. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #96

Farmers affected by government shutdown (Republican Senators plead for help) ProSense Oct 2013 #97

Govt finally got out of their lives cvoogt Oct 2013 #98

Lay down with the dogs, you get fleas. muntrv Oct 2013 #99

Y'know what really sucks? Wait Wut Oct 2013 #100

Well said, and I agree. Whether or not they learn from it, and whatever their politics, petronius Oct 2013 #103

Silly me! I thought these ranchers were rugged individualists who pick themselves up muntrv Oct 2013 #102

While I don't wish disaster on anyone in reality, they need to understand their actions cui bono Oct 2013 #105

Awww so Rush Limpballz, Bill OLieley, Heck and Boner let them down? Awww L0oniX Oct 2013 #107

Poor ranchers. texanwitch Oct 2013 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Oct 2013 #110

I feel bad for the cattle. :( They are the biggest losers here. pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #112

Maybe they will actually THINK next time they vote. nt Curmudgeoness Oct 2013 #113

This part is sad, pitbullgirl1965 Oct 2013 #114

Let those ranchers pull themselves up by their own damn bootstraps. No Handouts. Let 'em try prayer! blkmusclmachine Oct 2013 #115

Reminds me of a lot of the articles I see in Sierra magazine (from the Sierra Club)... rwsanders Oct 2013 #116

Cry me a river douchebags jpak Oct 2013 #117

"used to tending to his own problems" gulliver Oct 2013 #118

That's like cancelling the Super Bowl and then you're upset because there is no halftime show. Initech Oct 2013 #119

Hypocrites Renew Deal Oct 2013 #122

Ya know something.... Aviation Pro Oct 2013 #124

Sweet Glorious Schadenfreude... GatorOrange Oct 2013 #125

Jesus Christ dumb asses the government is not the enemy gopiscrap Oct 2013 #126

What do you bet that they will blame Obama for all their problems? Kablooie Oct 2013 #128

Too stupid to survive. I guess Rush didn't tell them about this part. Doctor_J Oct 2013 #129

What, did you lose your bootstraps, Mr. Bagger? nt valerief Oct 2013 #130

Well Boo-Hoo blue-wave Oct 2013 #132

Fuck em ! RagAss Oct 2013 #134

My sister and brother-in-law farm greatlaurel Oct 2013 #136

My mom and dad grew up in farming communities - during the Depression no less dflprincess Oct 2013 #141

k&r LibGranny Oct 2013 #138

Boo-fuckin-boo!!! Assholes Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #144

Piss on 'em OldRedneck Oct 2013 #146

Well, cry me a river! mrsadm Oct 2013 #147

Kick & recommended. William769 Oct 2013 #148

You Get The Representatives You Vote For AnnieBW Oct 2013 #149

Rural areas are inundated with right wing media. greatlaurel Oct 2013 #151

Two things. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #193

We farm and have cattle Boudica the Lyoness Oct 2013 #153

Maybe I'm a bleeding heart, but I feel they deserve our help OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #154

Of course we should help them out, but the government is shut down. Quantess Oct 2013 #158

I see the irony, but threads that seem to revel in their misfortune don't speak well of DU OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #171

Yeah, the meek shall inherit the earth. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #194

I bet a lot of Dr. King's marchers wanted nothing less than a Thompson submachine gun... OmahaBlueDog Oct 2013 #228

well said questionseverything Oct 2013 #225

Well, "G-o-l-l-y", "Sur-prise, sur-prise, sur-prise! Historic NY Oct 2013 #156

"Like most American ranchers, the 47-year-old is a resilient small businessman used to ... Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #157

Aren't these the same folks who belittled Katrina victims? KansDem Oct 2013 #165

Of course. Seems to me these are also the same people who wanted the damn Government to Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #230

Farmer Subsidies yellowdogdemocrat1 Oct 2013 #159

"The nation's heartland?" "In a time of need?" merrily Oct 2013 #161

God, this is an ugly display. It's the flip side of the conservatives telling Sandy Hook people.... Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #162

look, I think the reason people are expressing this view is that these are the same people ejpoeta Oct 2013 #168

Agreed. cordelia Oct 2013 #178

Oh well JustAnotherGen Oct 2013 #180

Exactly. I don't think it's awful to point out that these idiots have just Nay Oct 2013 #191

Well, here's how the votes break down, county by county . . . hatrack Oct 2013 #217

Getting aid to Shannon county only while telling the others to f**k off Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #234

DEAR RANCHERS: Well... nikto Oct 2013 #164

Solution? Work harder! KansDem Oct 2013 #166

Maybe pray too Doctor_J Oct 2013 #212

Good point! KansDem Oct 2013 #229

They all wear boots. Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #223

Good observation! KansDem Oct 2013 #227

Pray to St. Ronald of Peoria. Dawson Leery Oct 2013 #233

The words that come out of their mouths is stunning! KrazyinKS Oct 2013 #170

Perhaps he should pray to St. Reagan...? deutsey Oct 2013 #174

Hey, Mr. Rancher, some of us feel cutting food stamps is an equal disaster. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #175

Can this be posted on FB? I want to share it bread_and_roses Oct 2013 #182

Too much of the country hasn't felt enough 4_TN_TITANS Oct 2013 #183

Not a single ounce of empathy???? loyalsister Oct 2013 #196

For the innocents, yes sympathy. Those who cheered on a government shutdown thinking geek tragedy Oct 2013 #197

Be Careful What You Wish For. magical thyme Oct 2013 #198

More tears have been shed over prayers that were answered than those that were not nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #199

Funny, isn't it? Uses "Karma" in the OP, and gloats cordelia Oct 2013 #203

I don't think the OP is gloating over the misfortune of others magical thyme Oct 2013 #209

Of course, this will just make them conservativer BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #202

Dear ranchers: NOW will you call your GOP congressmen and order them to OPEN our government? raging moderate Oct 2013 #204

Oh...The IRONY! Bohemianwriter Oct 2013 #205

They are getting exactly what they asked for. Ganja Ninja Oct 2013 #207

Oh my... SummerSnow Oct 2013 #208

Surprise! DissidentVoice Oct 2013 #210

To quote Shakespeare Nac Mac Feegle Oct 2013 #213

While I take no joy Doc Holliday Oct 2013 #218

does their thinking even make sense. okieinpain Oct 2013 #219

"lend a hand after disasters like this," Christen said, "and they're not here." zbdent Oct 2013 #221

Let them eat beef! Hubert Flottz Oct 2013 #222

Fuck 'em nt broadcaster75201 Oct 2013 #231

lol southern_belle Oct 2013 #232

They need to work harder, find market solutions to their problems rpannier Oct 2013 #235

I wonder what kind of personal income these ranchers enjoy Ash_F Oct 2013 #236

You reap what you sow durablend Oct 2013 #238

more repug stupidity samsingh Oct 2013 #239