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In reply to the discussion: OK, don't have a fit: Five thoughts on the Obamacare disaster [View all]BelgianMadCow
(5,379 posts)30. Here's a criticism I haven't seen discussed on DU: narrowing coverage
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/10/obamacare-narrow-networks-how-they-affect-doctor-specialties.html
I thought the full analysis was interesting, but was also wondering whether the selections made are representative. But something to be aware of, I thought. I just didn't want to post it as an OP, I have no bone in the ACA fight and the way DU GD has behaved towards criticism is rather intimidating.
NC also had a piece about the technical problems. As usual, it's very well sourced (including the decision to involve Experian, that was instructive). http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/10/obamacare-rollout-what-the-log-in-problems-tell-us-about-more-serious-and-harder-problems-to-come.html
Lambert here. Most coverage of ObamaCare (ACA) policies available through the Exchanges, especially Democratic-friendly coverage, has focused on the price of policies, rather than their value. This post focuses on value, and shows why the distinction between in-network and out-of-network coverage is important. At least in the case tested here, insurance companies are shown to narrow their networks, and hence the coverage available to their policyholders, to exclude specialties like oncology, cardiology, internal medicine, and neurology.
I thought the full analysis was interesting, but was also wondering whether the selections made are representative. But something to be aware of, I thought. I just didn't want to post it as an OP, I have no bone in the ACA fight and the way DU GD has behaved towards criticism is rather intimidating.
NC also had a piece about the technical problems. As usual, it's very well sourced (including the decision to involve Experian, that was instructive). http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/10/obamacare-rollout-what-the-log-in-problems-tell-us-about-more-serious-and-harder-problems-to-come.html
[5] Redundant data electronically and on paper. Experian cant reconcile the data itself, so it asks johm to send paper verification:
The exchange now insists that my identity be verified by either mailing copies or faxing certain paper documentsdrivers license, passport, deed to the house, etc. I am, again, essentially locked out.
Never mind that this is an onerous requirement, a Kafka-esque bureaucratic requirement. Because look what happens: We now have three copies of johms account data running around. Weve (1) got the data johm entered on the Exchange, stored there and for two accounts, only one of which (but which?) is valid and (2) the copy of the data that Experian received amd stored, which may be corrupt, and may also have been changed by the Experian operator, and (3) the paper version of the data. What the system needs to do is get all three of those in synch and keep them that way. What are the odds?
Lets also remember that all these levels of #FAIL are for what should be the simplest process of all: Logging in to get an account. We havent even gotten to eligibility calculation and plan selection yet. Those are more complicated.
And, oh yeah: Why in the name of The God(dess)(e)(s) Of Your Choice, If Any, did the administration make it a requirement to set up an account before comparing plans?** Buying health insurance on the exchanges was supposed to be like buying a flat screen TV, said Obama; but does Best Buy force you to set up an account before searching their home electronics section? Or Amazon? Theyd be daft if they did, because they want you making a decision to purchase; customer identity can be captured at the point of sale. And the Federal Exchanges should to the same thing for the same reason.***
Of course, single payer is rugged, robust, proven, and none of this nonsense would be happen. I just cant imagine why the Democrats when for HeritageCare RomneyCare ObamaCare instead.
The exchange now insists that my identity be verified by either mailing copies or faxing certain paper documentsdrivers license, passport, deed to the house, etc. I am, again, essentially locked out.
Never mind that this is an onerous requirement, a Kafka-esque bureaucratic requirement. Because look what happens: We now have three copies of johms account data running around. Weve (1) got the data johm entered on the Exchange, stored there and for two accounts, only one of which (but which?) is valid and (2) the copy of the data that Experian received amd stored, which may be corrupt, and may also have been changed by the Experian operator, and (3) the paper version of the data. What the system needs to do is get all three of those in synch and keep them that way. What are the odds?
Lets also remember that all these levels of #FAIL are for what should be the simplest process of all: Logging in to get an account. We havent even gotten to eligibility calculation and plan selection yet. Those are more complicated.
And, oh yeah: Why in the name of The God(dess)(e)(s) Of Your Choice, If Any, did the administration make it a requirement to set up an account before comparing plans?** Buying health insurance on the exchanges was supposed to be like buying a flat screen TV, said Obama; but does Best Buy force you to set up an account before searching their home electronics section? Or Amazon? Theyd be daft if they did, because they want you making a decision to purchase; customer identity can be captured at the point of sale. And the Federal Exchanges should to the same thing for the same reason.***
Of course, single payer is rugged, robust, proven, and none of this nonsense would be happen. I just cant imagine why the Democrats when for HeritageCare RomneyCare ObamaCare instead.
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No cali, when I wake up and the morning noise is whargarbbling exactly the same noise
Warren Stupidity
Oct 2013
#112
Web sites crashing due to customer overload is common, and indicative of successful marketing.
Zen Democrat
Oct 2013
#32
Someone stating their opinion as fact on a host called "wonkblog" does not deserve a refute
tjwash
Oct 2013
#52
Yep. But if you're desperate to make the president's signature bill appear like a failure
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2013
#38
Are you aware that the problems seem to be in the states who aren't accepting Medicaid funds?
Zen Democrat
Oct 2013
#33
IIRC, the space program had, in its earliest days, some very public disasters...
CTyankee
Oct 2013
#39
A couple decades ago at Digital Equipment, we were forced to convert to MS Outlook,
magical thyme
Oct 2013
#46
Because contractors are FAMOUS for their willingness to work without being paid...
Jeff In Milwaukee
Oct 2013
#91
Judging by Social Security, I would say the problems won't be going away anytime soon.
ieoeja
Oct 2013
#114
I have yet to receive any official government notification of compulsory enrollment.
L0oniX
Oct 2013
#54
It's not about "hating Obama". Obama was against Obamacare when he was running
solarhydrocan
Oct 2013
#120
odd the bugs. before opening day the site was very searchable. what are the bugs does anyone know?
Sunlei
Oct 2013
#93
Yes because web site issues and people fucking drowning for days is exactly the same thing.
Warren Stupidity
Oct 2013
#98
I think there was MORE HARM before ACA so ACA is REDUCING HARM EVEN IF NOT PERFECT.
Warren Stupidity
Oct 2013
#105
That's what I call tens of thousands of people getting subsidized access to healthcare.
Warren Stupidity
Oct 2013
#111
And "democrats" are lining up, mindlessly or not, to join in the Greek Chorus.
Warren Stupidity
Oct 2013
#106