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wercal

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40. I question your premise

Tue Oct 15, 2013, 09:31 AM

Oct 2013

Is the website demand really more than anticipated. I understand the goal was to sign up 7 million people by Jan 1. This goal was a projection used by the CBO, in scoring the law, and important in assumptions about risk pools.

A little in the head ciphering yields 75k-80k sign-ups a day. So, after 14 days, we should have a million people signed up.

I really can't find official information anywhere about the number of sign-ups to date...but the rosiest pundit estimate I can find is 100k, split around half and half between state and federal exchanges.

This puts the sign-up pace tremendously behind schedule...and is an indicator that the system was never set up to handle the rate of sign up necessary to meet the CBO goal.

No its not anybody's talking points, and its beyond silly to keep saying that. It was doomed to fail from the start, if barely meeting 10% of the sign-up goal pace is considered an overwhelming bombardment of the system.

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